You Might be a Teabagger If…..

1) You’re offended at any suggestion that the Tea Party is racist, even though nobody objects when people show up at your rallies with blatantly racist signs and slogans.

2) Ronald Reagan is your hero because he was against raising taxes and big government… even though he raised taxes 11 times, doubled the national debt, and tripled the size of government.

3) You mocked Nancy Pelosi for getting emotional when she reflected on the murder of her friend, Mayor George Moscone, but you think it’s manly when John Boehner blubbers when he watches reruns of Flipper.

4) You were all in favor of George Bush bringing “Democracy” to Iraq by invading and killing hundreds of thousands of women and children, but you think Obama “blew it” by staying out of it when the people of Tunisia and Egypt toppled their dictators in popular revolts.

5) You think Climate Change is a big hoax because Senator James Inhofe, firmly in the pocket of the oil companies says it’s bogus.

6) You think president Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery, and that he managed to fool the CIA, FBI, NSA, Secret Service and the entire US government archive of documents with one Photoshopped image.

7) You think president Obama is a socialist, because he wants all Americans to pay their share of taxes, including the rich, and all Americans to enjoy the same benefits of an equitable society, including the same healthcare that Congress enjoys.

8) You think Glenn Beck’s theory of a Code Pink/Muslim/Communist alliance conspiracy to take over the world in a 21st Century caliphate makes perfect sense.

9) You believe the Citizens United decision was all about corporate “free speech,” yet you’re against the Fairness Doctrine being reenacted, because you think it’s contrary to “free speech.”

10) You are absolutely pro-life, under all circumstances — except when an abortion doctor is executed in his church, because he asked for it.

11) You thought it was cool when Sarah Palin “targeted” Democratic seats on her website with crosshairs, including Gaby Giffords. But when Giffords was shot in Arizona, you didn’t see any connection.

12) You think Sarah Palin would make a good president because she’s a feisty conservative, but that Dianne Feinstein should be run out of town, because she’s a feisty liberal.

13) You think George Soros, a Hungarian born American citizen, is an enemy of freedom because he uses his vast wealth to meddle in foreign affairs. But you think it’s great that Australian-born Rupert Murdoch uses his vast wealth to meddle in American affairs.

14) The main reason you despise George Soros, is because he helped bring down three foreign governments; the Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, and Soviet Georgia. Three communist regimes. Ronald Reagan on the other hand, took down one communist regime: Grenada… Reagan: 1, Soros: 3. Ergo, Soros is an un-American commie. Besides, Sean Hannity said so.

15) You think being a Teabagger makes you more patriotic than liberals, because you own more guns than them wussies.

16) You screamed bloody murder when president Obama rescued GM and Chrysler, because they were “going to fail anyway.” But now that they’re both on the road to recovery, you think George W. Bush deserves most of the credit.

17) When Barack Obama was sworn in, the Dow Jones was at 6500. Today, it’s at 12,400, almost double where it was. And at that time, the economy was shedding 700,000 jobs per month, a trend that has been arrested and reversed ever since. From that, you deduce Obama’s the one who wrecked the economy.

18) You still believe Saddam had WMDs.

19) You are dead-set against “judicial activist” judges, but you were okay with it when the five conservative justices of the Supreme Court voted in favor of Citizens United, effectively guaranteeing our politicians will be bought by the highest bidder, rather than elected by the people.

20) You’re strongly opposed to gay rights, because you claim it’s not biblical. Except in the case of Ken Mehlman, Mary Cheney, and Ted Haggard, because they still vote “right” on the issues.

21) You want all illegal immigrants rounded up and deported, ASAP, no exceptions, period, period, PERIOD. But you don’t want any criminal charges filed against the corporations that have been hiring them en masse in violation of law.

22) One of your stated concerns with Barack Obama’s candidacy, was that he was too inexperienced for the job, yet you want Sarah Palin to challenge him next year.

23) You hate tax cheats, and people who abuse their status for personal advancement — but you admire Clarence Thomas, and have no problem with his wife “speaking on behalf of her husband” at the Heritage Foundation, a far right-wing organization.

24) You went ballistic when an illegal immigrant murdered an American in Texas two years ago, and you demanded justice. But when three members connected to the Tea Party murdered 9 year old Brisenia Flores, you and your right-wing media barely even mentioned it, nor the conviction.

25) You equate being a “community organizer” to being a Marxist, yet you claim to worship a God whose entire life was being a community organizer.

26) You claim Barack Obama is soft of terrorism and that he’s sympathetic to Muslim extremists. Yet during his first two years in office, his administration captured or killed more terrorists than George Bush did in all eight years of his presidency.

27) You cheered as Andrew Breitbart and his faux journalists brought down ACORN. But when Breitbart got caught doctoring footage of Shirley Sherrod, which brought into question his veracity, you accused her of waging a “race war.”

28) You support Israel’s policies regarding the West Bank and Gaza, because Israel is a democracy, like us. But when Arabs democratically voted in anti-American and anti-Israeli governments, it bewildered you.

29) Your spiritual hero, the Grande Dame of the conservative movement, is Ayn Rand; the dedicated anti-socialist. And yet, she herself in her later years, had no problem secretly cashing in on social security and Medicare.

30) You still think fascism and socialism are basically the same thing, because Glenn Beck has convinced you of that with his magic blackboard. And because of this twisting of history, you don’t think anybody can accuse you of being ideologically aligned with the Nazis… even though you are.


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  1. August 3, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    You Might Be A Liberal If You…

    …think the government can spend its way out of debt.

    …believe we need to fight big business with big government.

    …claim not to be a socialist, but still want the government to regulate the economy.

    …defend Obama by arguing “you only hate him because he’s black!”

    …criticize people who call Obama “Hitler,” yet had no problem calling Bush “Hitler.”

    …worship wealthy celebrities who preach redistribution of wealth.

    …think Janeane Garofalo is as intelligent as she is attractive (on second thought, that’s an accurate analogy).

    …think Fox News is biased because Keith Olbermann told you it was.

    …threw out your radio when Air America went off the air.

    …think Sarah Palin is the devil incarnate.

    …label every conservative as a fascist, yet possess no understanding of fascism.

    …think Bush was the dumbest president ever, yet was smart enough to orchestrate the largest inside job that is allegedly 9/11.

    …think the bureaucrats who run the Department of Motor Vehicles or post office are qualified to run our healthcare system.

    …believe our healthcare system needs to emulate Great Britain’s (where hospitals flip the bed sheets over to save money) or Canada’s (where doctors have lotteries to see which family to treat).

    …think the human fetus is no more significant than a tumor and an abortion is no more morally questionable than a tonsillectomy.

    …think a cow or chicken has more of a right to live than a human fetus.

    …think An Inconvenient Truth and The Day After Tomorrow are both scientifically-accurate movies.

    …want the country to invest in alternative energy sources, except nuclear energy.

    …think it’s fair to force somebody off their property because an endangered beetle also lives there.

    …want to legalize marijuana but ban guns.

    …find burning the Koran offensive, but not building a mosque near the site of an Islamic terrorist attack.

    …are against giving jobs to foreigners overseas, yet have no problem giving jobs to foreigners in our own country.

    …want to give African-Americans and other minorities equal access to jobs by giving them special treatment in hiring.

    …think communism or anarchy are good ideas gone bad.

    …find it more patriotic to burn the flag rather than salute it.

    Cross-posted from my blog post: http://blamethe1st.blogspot.com/2010/11/you-might-be-liberal-if-you.html

    • Matt C
      August 17, 2011 at 1:23 pm

      A Rebuttal:

      1) Didn’t Dick Cheney himself say “We shouldn’t be afraid of debt” when he was justifying the outlandish cost of our current wars? How do you propose we fix our crumbling infrastructure and create programs to try and get ourselves out of this mess if we don’t spend money? It has to come from somewhere, and we can’t increase taxes for some reason.

      2) How would you propose we protect our citizens from companies that need to be told things like “Your company isn’t allowed to suppress reports of rape”? Are you so naive that you think multinational corporations will do anything altruistic that they aren’t forced to do?

      3) Again, you cannot be so naive as to think that corporations will regulate themselves. They will, and always have, enriched themselves at the expense of the working man. Or is the “Gilded Age” just secret liberal propaganda?

      4) No one says that anymore. And let’s face it, some of the anger towards him is racially motivated.

      5) It’s hyperbole no matter who’s saying it. You’re attacking the fringe rather than the actual belief.

      6) No one worships Sean Penn. You’re embarrassing yourself.

      7) You attack women on the left constantly, then scream sexism when we point out that Palin and Bacchman are glazed-over zealots. Double standard much?

      8) No, we think Fox News is biased because it is provably biased.

      9) No one did this. Again, you’re embarrassing yourself.

      10) Sorta like how there are people who think Obama is the actual biblical Antichrist? At least we’re just using metaphor. Those guys think that Obama is literally a scary demon-man from the magical bad place.

      11) No one is labeling “every” conservative as fascist, but your public views are starting to move frighteningly close to it. You might want to read up on the ideology yourself.

      12) The only one I hear espousing the 9/11 conspiracy routinely is Alex Jones, noted RIGHT WING talk show host. You really need to research these things better.

      13) You mean the friendly, well-staffed facility that monitors the licensing and regulation of the millions of cars in my state with almost no problems? The place I’ve never had a wait longer than 10 minutes? Yeah, I think I could stand that.

      14) I know people who live in Canada. They’ve never had to deal with a 10th of these insane stories I keep hearing from the right-wing propaganda machine. And what little hassle I HAVE heard from them would probably be less annoying than our current system, and is FAR overshadowed by being available to every man, woman and child.

      15) Again, you embarrass yourself. Show me where a majority of self-identified liberals actually believe that, and I’ll eat my hat.

      16) See #15. You DO enjoy your hyperbole. It must be so much more comforting than the truth

      17) False equivalency. No one believe The Day After Tomorrow was real, as it’s an action movie. By using that, you’re trying to paint a documentary on climate change with the same brush. An Inconvenient Truth was a well-researched documentary. Your poor attempt to discredit it only proves the title.

      18) Mostly because those alternatives that DON’T create unbelievably large amounts of toxic waste. Also, Japan wasn’t dealing with radiation leaks from a solar panel or a windmill farm, you’ll notice.

      19) Nobody thinks this, it has never happened. You’re embarrassing yourself yet again.

      20) “Banning guns” has never been reasonable, and will never happen. It’s odd that the party that concerns its self so much with personal freedom wants to keep a relatively safe intoxicant illegal, though. (Unless they’re just authoritarians in a poor disguise, that is.)

      21) First off, it’s not a mosque, it’s a community center. Also, do you believe there should be no Christian churches near the Oklahoma City federal building? If your answer is anything other than “no there shouldn’t”, you might want to re-evaluate your anger towards the Manhattan community center.

      22) I’m not sure how a desire to penalize the companies that hire those immigrants is supporting them.

      23) How would you propose we try to remove race from the hiring process? Because I’ve met enough racist business owners to know that it won’t happen any other way.

      24) Wait, so you want to “Drown the government in a bathtub”, but hate anarchy? Also, how can Liberals be both big-government commies, AND anarchists (in favor of the abolition of government entirely). You need to pick an angle of attack and stick with it, man!

      25) When the purpose and ideology of that flag has been corrupted by love of money and power past recognition, then it becomes FAR more patriotic to take a stand against what that flag has come to stand for stand for than to meekly salute it for fear of appearances. Any real patriot knows that.

      • dragonflypoet
        October 26, 2011 at 12:01 am

        Well said, Matt C. Eloquent, intelligent arguments. Congratulations on taking the high road.

        And BlameThe1st, there are actually a number of things on your list of liberal atrocities that I wholeheartedly believe. I am proud of those beliefs; you apparently think I should find them shameful. Hence, I am demonstrated to be a (proud) liberal, and you, a (closed-minded) teabagger. I love it when tools serve their intended purposes so precisely, dividing the people so neatly into convenient little categories!

        Here, hold still while I slap this label on your forehead.

        I don’t think Bush was the dumbest president ever, just the least articulate and the most blatently deceptive. Bush was brilliant in his manipulation of the Christian right to weave himself an irrefutable mandate that allowed even the most bald-faced lies to go unchecked. After all, he was called to office by God – who were we to question his actions?

        So, I’m a vegetarian, and would no more eat a fetus than a cow or a chicken, so there goes THAT argument (what exactly was that argument, anyway?). I don’t really have any attachment to the rights of the cows and chickens, I just think eating charred dead flesh is gross.

        You may believe that every child conceived has a right to be born, and I respect that belief. I believe that every child born has a right to enough food, shelter, and safety to live a life reasonably free of suffering. You can’t in good conscience promote the idea that if folks can’t care for a child they shouldn’t conceive them, AND threaten and kill those who seek and perform abortions of those unwanted children, AND make it illegal to teach contraception methods to young people in school before they accidentally conceive a child, AND strip away welfare that those folks who couldn’t afford to have that kid in the first place need to prevent him from being part of the nearly 25% of American children age 5 and under who don’t have enough to eat on a daily basis. That’s 1 out of every 4 BABIES going hungry in OUR COUNTRY, bucko, and you’ll pardon me if I find it the worst kind of hypocrisy to wail “it’s a CHILD, not a CHOICE” outside the abortion clinic while the children who are here, today, in your town and your neighborhood and on your street, are being penalized through deprivation for the perceived sins of their parents, because what’s REALLY important is to make sure those revolting, unemployed, uninsured, lazy, drug addict parents are thoroughly criminalized for being POOR.

        Eye on the prize, now.

        You clearly think there are too many foreign-born people in our country. How does your right-to-life belief stand up when women here illegally want to have abortions? One less mooch kid to tax our hospitals, schools and jails, right? Does that illegal baby have the same right to life? How about his parents? How about the gas chamber for the whole lot of them?

        Oops, did I make a not-so-oblique reference to Hitler? My bad. I know how that peeves you teabaggers.

        Lastly, though believe me, I could go on, I think that Janeane Garafolo is both intelligent and attractive, because I find smart, witty people sexy, and because I’m a big ol’ lesbo. Yeah, yeah, God hates me, I know. Straight to hell I go. Let me just smoke this weed and abort this late-term fetus first.

        See, the real point of this rant is that hyperbole is a two-way street, and a poorly-controlled weapon. I can demonize you and those who share your beliefs just as thoroughly as you can demonize me and mine. I don’t need much in the way of fact to do so, either – just a lot of buzz words, outrageously exaggerated accusations, recycled arguments and some good ol’ self-righteous indignation. (Ok, the indignation was real.)

        Guess what? Unemployment still rampant. Kids still going hungry. People still losing their homes. Country still divided. Gay people still exist. Unwanted children still being conceived. Obama still president (and still black, too). Hitler still represents a level of sadistic mania to which no human – save the sadists and maniacs – deserves comparison.

        We can always find things about which to disagree. Divisiveness is easy. It’s commonality that’s hard to find, and cooperation for a greater good that’s difficult to achieve. So I’m still a liberal and you’re still a teabagger, and we’re not going to change one another’s minds, but it’s a lot easier for those who’ve been elected (or bought, if you prefer) to carry on with business as usual, undisturbed, rather than to find solutions to those real, enormous, nearly impossible issues, if you and I spend our time and energy locked in combat over who has the superior ideology. It’s the plan, man, and it’s working beautifully.

  2. A Patriot
    May 23, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    We live in a world of illusion. We honestly believe that there is a difference or a choice. Let us be realistic. The true difference between Republicans and Democrats is slim. It is like sitting in a dark room and being given a Pepsi or a Coke to taste. When you strip it all down to chemical make-up, there is not a considerable difference between the two.

    Free Market. We are given the illusion of choice. We can choose between one car over the other, or one cell phone plan over the other, the end result is the same. You get transported from point A to point B, or you talk from point A to point B. In pretty much the same fashion. The manufacturerrs have already colluded together, so you are going to pay pretty much the same thing for the service you get.

    Likewise, our two party system is broken. Either way, we get pretty much the same crooked, corrupt and self centered and self-serving power hungry politician, claiming to be seeking office in our interest. Really? You are unable to keep the most sacred of vows to your spouses and family, and you see them daily. How then can I reasonably expect you to keep your vow to me, when you don’t know me, nor see me?

    Like it or not, the solution is going to have to start at the bottom to the top. The top is too polluted with graft and other seductions, that make it impossible for a morally weak individual to remain untainted by the spoils of office. When “WE THE PEOPLE” realize this collectively, we will stop wasting time in rants like are above here, and get down to some real action. Acgtion we take ourselves, for ourselves, by ourselves. Then, and only then, will we see change we can believe in.

  3. The Hoodgeek
    May 23, 2011 at 11:20 am

    You Might be a Teabagger if you’re out shouting “We’re being screwed over” and then you turn around and make the very people whose screwing you over your leaders.

  4. Mike
    May 23, 2011 at 2:24 am

    You might be a tea party enthusiast if you open carry a pistol in a tactical thigh holster.

    I mean really, shoulder holsters are much more stylish

    -Mike, a Republican that feels ashamed of the tea party.

  5. Denise
    May 22, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Baggers should quit whining about their name. Obamacare, Ryandon’tcare and Romneycare is the same as Obamacare.

  6. Rachel
    May 22, 2011 at 3:50 pm

    I enjoyed the list, but I think that Chrysler and GM were given money from legislation passed during the Bush administration, so that was one that came around alright for Bush.

  7. brenda akers
    April 22, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    what is the sexual/ homosexual meaning of “teabagger” ? I never heard of it except for TeaParty. thanks.

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 23, 2011 at 7:09 pm

      Look it up the left is fascinated with the term

  8. Apada
    April 22, 2011 at 10:23 am

    WOW. After seeing those signs, it wouldn’t matter WHAT the tea “partiers” stood for – I’d be against it because of what I just saw. Shameful, shameful, loathesome individuals. Repulsive. Now, even if Obama was a socialist, communist, marxist, (whatever), I’d choose that ANY day over the filthy hatred that comes so freely from these “things” who call themselves true Americans. They haven’t got a clue what a true American is.

  9. Joe
    April 16, 2011 at 7:40 am

    It’s so sad. After reading this article and 75% of the comments, there is only one conclusion I can come to: Humans (republicans, democrats, tea baggers, etc) have a hard time separating fact from opinion.

    Nearly every post here is riddled with half-truth, selective truth, and blatant opinion and just as many posts are trying to pass it off as fact.

    While we go back and forth about how the other side wants to destroy America or how the other side is full of nazis; the elected representatives of each party eat lunch together, play golf together, attend parties together. Elected republicans and democrats get along just fine. We bring it upon ourselves to name call and point fingers… And look where it has gotten us.

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm

      And this blog did absolutely nothing to address this except to insult half the problem what is your solution?

  10. April 13, 2011 at 5:10 am

    As an Independent voter reading the comments on this board. I will tell you this. This Independent voter is someone who takes the time to sort out all the differences between both major Parties. We then use our own intelligence to decide the truth we will believe…We do not have any high ranking person hand feed our thoughts and beliefs to us. That being said, I find the comments on this board arrogant and disturbing . Both sides are sounding like a bunch of school children on the playground calling names. As an Independent…..I will sum this up for all. Liberals/Democrats use more name calling, childish terms, and arrogance…when speaking to their fellow Americans. This does not attract many Independents to want to follow you. The Republicans/conservatives, should know the truth about who they are. Therefore, quit defending the silliness of the left whose only goal is to get you to join them in their childish, arrogant banter. It’s not necessary. We Independents are intelligent enough, to decide what is BS and what isn’t. Which ever side wants the Independent vote in 2012…. Both sides need to look in the mirror and make changes….because right now……. You are all embarrassing this Country. Grow up please.

    • Bruce Lindner
      April 13, 2011 at 12:51 pm

      Deena, normally, I’d ignore a post such as yours, but I’m in just the right mood to pick this scab. First, for you to refer to yourself as an “Independent voter” is a bit misleading. I assume you mean you’re neither a Republican nor a Democrat (for that matter, neither am I, but I PROUDLY admit to being liberal). But you have tried to cast yourself as somehow centrist… as if you’re some sort of an intermediary, casually observing the to & fro of bickering siblings. That my dear, is pure CRAP.

      Beginning here; “Liberals/Democrats use more name calling, childish terms, and arrogance…when speaking to their fellow Americans.” This is hilarious! You have utterly ignored every name called out by the right on my article, and cast aspersions ONLY on those of us on the left. And by calling our quarry “fellow Americans,” you’ve again tipped your hand at being just another right-winger hiding behind a false veil of neutrality, who thinks that only those on the right are “real” Americans. And then, there’s this little nugget; “The Republicans/conservatives, should know the truth about who they are.”

      I was born at night Deena, but not last night. What sort of Independent thinks the way you do?

      And finally, this; “We Independents are intelligent enough, to decide what is BS and what isn’t.” No Deena, apparently, you’re not. Nor are you in any way other than party affiliation, an “independent.” You’re a Tea Party apologist, here to defend your ignorant brethren. Nice try Deena, but we’ve seen your kind before… usually lined up outside Fox News offices to get tickets to the Glenn Beck show.

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 23, 2011 at 7:06 pm

      Deena you are right. I notice he did not say why you were wrong. You see you merely pointed out the childish nature of the comments on this blog. My experience in this regard is that when someone hurls insults at you rather than address the facts, you in fact have won. In my instabce the author;s response was that I was a) insipid b)incorrect in every instance and c) laden with personal insults. The funny thing, in reference to insults, the author was quite peeved when I did it back to him, and then he took a righteous tone. When he made the statement that I was wrong in every instance, I challenged him to respond. Well I’m still waiting. You have the stronger argument, and as with me, over a week later thier is only his feined insult at my insult to him. Take care.

      • Bruce Lindner
        April 23, 2011 at 8:31 pm

        Tom, let’s pick up where we left off; #1: Who’s “Barbara?” And #2: What makes you think I’m unhappy?

        Offhand, I suspect that’s a projection on your part, as you do indeed seem to have a dour and defensive attitude.

        Kindly address those points, then I’ll deal with today’s post. Capice?

        • Thomas Rossiter
          April 26, 2011 at 4:50 pm

          You got me there on Barbara I mixed Michelle Bachman with Barbara Boxer, incidentally two politicians I am not too fond of. OOPs ya got me.

          As for your state of sadness/happiness, hey you are the one now bringing it up, you said you were happy, I have no reason to doubt you. Do I???

          The nexxt question, I passed it off at first but what made you look up my location? I told you I was in Tampa after you brought it up first. Hmmmm…….curious.

          • Bruce Lindner
            April 27, 2011 at 1:03 pm

            Thomas, don’t flatter yourself – I didn’t “look you up.” Your IP address is broadcast along with your posts.

            As for my happiness, YOU were the one who brought it up, not me… look above at your comments. All I did was reply.

            By the way, how about that birth certificate!? Dang. Not only did the GOP leadership permit the party to be led by the nose by a mob of racists and bigots, but they’ve pretty much sealed their chances at taking the White House next year. My condolences.

            But hey, but it’s never too early to concentrate on 2016.

            • Thomas Rossiter
              April 27, 2011 at 4:25 pm

              Bruce, Beleive it or not I actually agree with you. I felt it was a losing ploy by a bankrupt huckster (many times over bankrupt in fact with different Trump companies) who is trying to pump his pointless show. Supposedly he cannot make an announcement until the season is over. I will really be suprised if he goes for the brass ring. Believe it or not Bruce, I find our exchanges refreshing. Take care.

            • Thomas Rossiter
              April 27, 2011 at 7:35 pm

              As for the happiness thing, I admit I am generalizing, but it has been my experience when someone points out faults in others, they are usually trying to make up for something, and it does not matter how well off they are.

              Some are never happy, and cannot appreciate the what they have, and where they live. Your article did bash a lot of people to the right of center. My “insults” were intended to jab you. They did. When I used “bomb thrower”

              It was more of a how do you like it moment. Do I think that defines you? No, just as the statement implying Tea Baggers would approve slaying immigrants applies to all of them, or even that they would have sympathy with such an act. To most in this country, that is not funny.

              You seemed riled when I did that to you, and got a bit indignant about, even accused me of name calling. I guess my point was made in that regard, and a teaching moment.

              The last post stated I had a dour personality.

              Now that is good! I have been called a curmudgeon by at least one of my friends, maybe you’re on to something.

  11. Joel
    April 12, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Racist signs from Tea Party rallies. Deny Tea Party members are not racist now.

    • C.B.
      June 23, 2011 at 1:54 pm

      Sadly, Joel, the only thing that didn’t disturb about the video was the soundtrack…

  12. Bruce Lindner
    April 11, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Tom, why do you think I’m unhappy? You’re unlikely to meet a happier soul than me.

    And who’s “Barbara?” If you’re referring to the Congresswoman from Minnesota, her name is Michele.

    Carry on Thomas. I’m glad you’re moderating your tone. But after calling me a bomb throwing hypocrite, don’t expect me to send you flowers anytime soon.

  13. Bruce Lindner
    April 11, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Your fifteen minutes of fame expired two days ago Thomas, run along. You’re out of your league sonny.

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 11, 2011 at 7:21 pm

      Bruce I feel no contempt for you, or ill will, I just do not agree with everything you say.

      I for one find Barbara to be a hypocrite to her tea party values. She voted in favor of the second F-22 engine even when the DoD told her it was not needed, but you see it was made in her district. She is not really true to her values is she?

      You said i was wrong in every instance, that is a claim based upon emotion or a snap judgement. I took the time to answer your points and returned barbs with barbs. Abswer my points.

      The problem as I see it is that there is too much dwelling on the minor and not enough on the real problems, they are boring to most so they don’t get fixed.

      When you went to journalism school and I assume you did, did you go to change the world? That is the answer most give.

      It has been entertaining, good luck. and I hope you find what eventually makes you happy..

  14. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    25) You equate being a “community organizer” to being a Marxist, yet you claim to worship a God whose entire life was being a community organizer.

    I read Saul’s books, he was no Jesus Christ. He practised the art of fibbing and basically stated that if it served your ends it was ok. Jesus did not lie, and showed all of us how we were supposed to live and worship. Coercion to the greater good was not his tenant. God loves a cheerful giver. If you take something from someone it is not given. There is no moral equivalency there, and if you cannot see that we have no discussion. Mock someone else.

    26) You claim Barack Obama is soft of terrorism and that he’s sympathetic to Muslim extremists. Yet during his first two years in office, his administration captured or killed more terrorists than George Bush did in all eight years of his presidency.

    How did that (circus) trial turn out? You know over 200 counts thrown out. Funny, we are now going back to military tribunals. Define who the “extremists” (remember that is the word we are using now, afterall errorist is too well, extreme) are. Are they the big wigs from 9/11 or the wannabes who have come since then? If so there is debate to that. lf your terrorist is a combatant on the battlefield, then no way are your numbers right. By the way isn’t it awesome that our president is such a proponent of using drone technology to reach into soveriegn nations to kill the bad guys staying there? Didn’t he have a problem with that at one time……..? I’m just saying.

    27) You cheered as Andrew Breitbart and his faux journalists brought down ACORN. But when Breitbart got caught doctoring footage of Shirley Sherrod, which brought into question his veracity, you accused her of waging a “race war.”

    Breitbart was wrong in the second instance, but in the case of ACORN he was givn a gift too good to pass up.

    28) You support Israel’s policies regarding the West Bank and Gaza, because Israel is a democracy, like us. But when Arabs democratically voted in anti-American and anti-Israeli governments, it bewildered you.

    I don’t know, if a neo-Nazi movement rose to power in Germany or Russia today, how do you think we would react to that? Would their anti-Jewish bother you, would they have a right to engage in that activity to the detriment of the Jews in those countries? We know the answer in political language we use to, based upon the experiences of 65-75 years ago, but today when it happens in the middle east they have a right to their collective hatred. Pull your PC head out of the dark, damp and stinky place it is parked. You are saying that all society is morally equivalent, and somehow trying to say we are at best equal to what they have in the middle east. Go live there, I have, it sucks.
    Then let us apply those standards to make us all equal coom-bae-ah

    29) Your spiritual hero, the Grande Dame of the conservative movement, is Ayn Rand; the dedicated anti-socialist. And yet, she herself in her later years, had no problem secretly cashing in on social security and Medicare.

    Spiritual would mean worship. You mean to tell me she used something Uncle Sam forced upon society, something we were all forced to pay into. Shy the nerve of her, using something she was forced to pay for. You are right she must be a hypocrite. Actually, it was probably in resignation of the fact that people were not listening to her. Afterall, she died at a time the US economy, relative to today was much stronger. You could go to work in the local factory, or expect to, and you would work there your entire life. That reality is not there now, her book “Atlas Shrugged” was what she said would happen. The funny thing, when she published it in 1957, she envisioned a day when Government interfernce in industry would eventually make it just quit. Well, she was wrong in that, it didn’t quit, but a lotof it keeps leaving,

    30) You still think fascism and socialism are basically the same thing, because Glenn Beck has convinced you of that with his magic blackboard. And because of this twisting of history, you don’t think anybody can accuse you of being ideologically aligned with the Nazis… even though you are.

    Define fascist. If you put Nazi in that camp you’d be wrong. The Nazis were socialist in nature. They engaged in central planning, they started government industry (volkswagen, you know the peoples car–not socialist enought for you?) Show me how that is not socialism, or does it merely show the bad side, and that is unpalatable?

    • Bruce Lindner
      April 11, 2011 at 12:58 pm

      Thomas, you seem like a nice fellow! But your answers are A) insipid, B) incorrect in every instance, and C) laden with personal insults. Ergo, I must conclude that you’re a kid, and will therefore give you a pass. From your “points” on WMDs, to fascism being left-wing, to your defense of Glenn Beck and Rupert Murdoch, I have to confess, that you’ve entertained me this afternoon. Come back in a few years, and we’ll iron out some of those wrinkles.

      Points for initiative: 5

      For courtesy: 2

      For general knowledge: 2

      For accuracy: 0

      No cigar.

      • thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
        April 11, 2011 at 3:54 pm

        When you throw an accusation, you need to back it up. Again, making fun of a person instead of attacking his points revelas where the real weakness in the argument lies now doesn’t it. The fact the you lead with an attack B) incorrectin every instance, does not mean I am a devout Glenn Beck fa, but as for my insults point them out and show how the points I addressed did not deserve them. One thing I do know when you go on the attack and attach labels, as this article did you are in fact hurling insults. You seem a bit talented, get away from the irreverent name calling and it won’t come your way.

        • Bruce Lindner
          April 11, 2011 at 4:23 pm

          Tommy, let me explain something to you… this article was intended as literary satire, not an “attack.” At NO TIME did I attack anyone. I’m sorry that you’re incapable of distinguishing between the two. Maybe one day, you’ll have the wherewithal to do so, when the concept of humor reaches Tampa.

          As for your observation that I’ve got “some talent,” well, thanks a bunch there buddy. Coming from you, I can’t begin to express how much your opinion means to me. I’ll sleep better tonight with this knowledge.

          Anything else?

          • Tom Rossiter
            April 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm

            Is that you really meant Brucy, see I can do it too and I read Saul’s books as well. Trying to demean me does not work here, and I find the humor here in Tampa to ge pretty good outside of your efforts to demean half of the voting public. Whe you go into satire, as you did, how do you think it actually helps slve what is going on in our country. Do the tea-partiers have it all wrong, do the anti-tea partiers have it all right? Is there a common ground we can work from? Now I never said I was a Tea-Partier, bit I do recognize where they are coming from. What makes them so angry??? That is not your goal, instead it is to denigrate and label it as humor. Anything else?

  15. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    21) You want all illegal immigrants rounded up and deported, ASAP, no exceptions, period, period, PERIOD. But you don’t want any criminal charges filed against the corporations that have been hiring them en masse in violation of law.

    Nope, fry em both and I suspect if you’d looked into it you’d have found the average tea partier would also feel that way

    22) One of your stated concerns with Barack Obama’s candidacy, was that he was too inexperienced for the job, yet you want Sarah Palin to challenge him next year.

    Not Sarah, and yes he is showing he is too inexperienced,

    23) You hate tax cheats, and people who abuse their status for personal advancement — but you admire Clarence Thomas, and have no problem with his wife “speaking on behalf of her husband” at the Heritage Foundation, a far right-wing organization.

    Who wrote (opps had ghost written for her) “It takes a village” when her husband was president? You are a hypocrite.

    24) You went ballistic when an illegal immigrant murdered an American in Texas two years ago, and you demanded justice. But when three members connected to the Tea Party murdered 9 year old Brisenia Flores, you and your right-wing media barely even mentioned it, nor the conviction.

    Do they represent all tea partiers or am I obliged to label you as part of the Ted Kazinsky club. Come on you bomb-thrower.

  16. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    19) You are dead-set against “judicial activist” judges, but you were okay with it when the five conservative justices of the Supreme Court voted in favor of Citizens United, effectively guaranteeing our politicians will be bought by the highest bidder, rather than elected by the people.

    So are you saying separate but equal was a good ruling, How about the rights of slaves in non-slave states in the 1850′s?

    20) You’re strongly opposed to gay rights, because you claim it’s not biblical. Except in the case of Ken Mehlman, Mary Cheney, and Ted Haggard, because they still vote “right” on the issues.

    No not at all. By the way when can I arrange a traingle marriage with my wife and her best friend? She is available. Forget that, how about a whole harem. You know, I have some kinky friends, they’d like to marry their farm animals. Where do you draw the line? Do you say Holder and the President are right in saying the defense of marriage act is indefensible. If so look out for the other things I mentioned.

  17. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    15) You think being a Teabagger makes you more patriotic than liberals, because you own more guns than them wussies.

    Now now some one has a phallic issue

    16) You screamed bloody murder when president Obama rescued GM and Chrysler, because they were “going to fail anyway.” But now that they’re both on the road to recovery, you think George W. Bush deserves most of the credit.

    Just because the CEO paid a pittance back it means it will succeed right. There is not any evidence they are on the road to recovery, and at what cost to the taxpayer? What did the average worker give up-who is paying for the retirements? You are right we are successfully paying for that boondoggle.

    17) When Barack Obama was sworn in, the Dow Jones was at 6500. Today, it’s at 12,400, almost double where it was. And at that time, the economy was shedding 700,000 jobs per month, a trend that has been arrested and reversed ever since. From that, you deduce Obama’s the one who wrecked the economy.

    Reagan had 10% unemployment when he came into office, and the stock price was soaring and the Dems said look at all of the unemployed……. Something is missing from your statement hypocrite.

    18) You still believe Saddam had WMDs.

    He did read “WMDs found in Iraq” Doesn’t mean they weren’t the lateset and greatest but they could still kill al lot of people.

  18. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    13) You think George Soros, a Hungarian born American citizen, is an enemy of freedom because he uses his vast wealth to meddle in foreign affairs. But you think it’s great that Australian-born Rupert Murdoch uses his vast wealth to meddle in American affairs.

    The key phrase here is helped bring down governments. Keep that in mind, he makes his living on currency manipulation. Murdoch provides a service that people want, it may bring down a political party though.

    14) The main reason you despise George Soros, is because he helped bring down three foreign governments; the Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, and Soviet Georgia. Three communist regimes. Ronald Reagan on the other hand, took down one communist regime: Grenada… Reagan: 1, Soros: 3. Ergo, Soros is an un-American commie. Besides, Sean Hannity said so.

    Reagan accelerated the process that eventually collapsed the entire Wasaw Pact(nothing Bush I did, he inherited it). Soros did his in the Post-Soviet Era

  19. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    11) You thought it was cool when Sarah Palin “targeted” Democratic seats on her website with crosshairs, including Gaby Giffords. But when Giffords was shot in Arizona, you didn’t see any connection.

    Actually Democratic strategist Bob Bectel took credit for the cross-hair idea a long time ago. Again a case of believing what you wish to believe,

    12) You think Sarah Palin would make a good president because she’s a feisty conservative, but that Dianne Feinstein should be run out of town, because she’s a feisty liberal.

    No she’s a Sean Hannity in a skirt.

  20. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    9) You believe the Citizens United decision was all about corporate “free speech,” yet you’re against the Fairness Doctrine being reenacted, because you think it’s contrary to “free speech.”

    There is difference here and both revolve around an individuals right to his property. If I wish to make money in a local radio station and one host is popular the other is not, I should not be forced to hire the one that is not. Also, if I wish to spend my money on a political campaign it is my choice, and my right to expression.

    10) You are absolutely pro-life, under all circumstances — except when an abortion doctor is executed in his church, because he asked for it.

    I do not recall any of this going on. Admittedly none were saddened but I did not see people dancing in the Gaza strip, wait I did but that was on 9/11. Moral relevancy here, how come you don’t address that?

  21. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    7) You think president Obama is a socialist, because he wants all Americans to pay their share of taxes, including the rich, and all Americans to enjoy the same benefits of an equitable society, including the same healthcare that Congress enjoys.

    Sounds great, who is paying for. Nice to have, now do a reality check 14 trillion in the hole sir.

    8) You think Glenn Beck’s theory of a Code Pink/Muslim/Communist alliance conspiracy to take over the world in a 21st Century caliphate makes perfect sense.

    Islam had a Caliphate in 1918. For the entire history of Islam to that point there was a defender of the faith. Osama has stated publicly that it needs to be reestablished. Glenn’s view may be embraced by a few on the left, but it will end disastrously in the long run for them. Marx taught there was no god, an insult to Islam on the best of days. However, there is this war against the “godless” west. Any useful idiots will do I suppose.

  22. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    5) You think Climate Change is a big hoax because Senator James Inhofe, firmly in the pocket of the oil companies says it’s bogus.

    If you use sound scientific methodology good, if not shut up! As for politicains in the hip pocket they are in droves for both parties

    6) You think president Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery, and that he managed to fool the CIA, FBI, NSA, Secret Service and the entire US government archive of documents with one Photoshopped image.

    Present the document if it is such a scandal address it. While you are at it post your undergrad and grad grades as well. Your predecessors did, as did Gore and Kerry. Barack has yet to do so. That doesn’t concern Bruce though does it?

  23. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    3) You mocked Nancy Pelosi for getting emotional when she reflected on the murder of her friend, Mayor George Moscone, but you think it’s manly when John Boehner blubbers when he watches reruns of Flipper.

    John and Nancy had their reasons, leave them both alone

    4) You were all in favor of George Bush bringing “Democracy” to Iraq by invading and killing hundreds of thousands of women and children, but you think Obama “blew it” by staying out of it when the people of Tunisia and Egypt toppled their dictators in popular revolts.

    Women and children? Yeah, we probably did that intentionally too didn’t we. You are a cheap shot, who needs to do more research. The criticism is really toward his approach to Iran, there is some evidence that they have been actively involved in our actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Look it up moron.

  24. thomasrossiter09@comcast.net
    April 10, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    1) You’re offended at any suggestion that the Tea Party is racist, even though nobody objects when people show up at your rallies with blatantly racist signs and slogans.

    Define racist here. When you are filming these racist rants at a rally against health care, and yet provide no video of anyone using racially offensive speech toward you—you might be a racist. I’m just saying,

    2) Ronald Reagan is your hero because he was against raising taxes and big government… even though he raised taxes 11 times, doubled the national debt, and tripled the size of government.

    Ronald Reagan is Sean Hannity’s god. He was a spokesman for the conservative ideal, but never followed through on it when the rubber hit the road.

  25. Janet
    April 10, 2011 at 10:29 am

    You might be a teabagger when you’re governor of Florida, committed fraud loads of times, plead the fifth 96 times, all along making a huge profit with private health care;
    AND you deeply cut the budget for the disabled (including for the mentally retarded and autistic) the same day you and your wife attend the Special Olympic Torch;
    AND you’re fine when people got scammed by banks with the mortgage crash but you criminalize with fines and jail time those who care to feed the homeless at their own expense… because we don’t want the cities in the Sunshine State of Child Molester Swampland laced with fabricated theme parks that abuse their employees, giving a bad image to tourists.

    You ARE definitely a teabagger if you never stopped to think and voted for this His Corrupt Highness (aka Rick Scott)

    You might be a teabagger when you criticize Michelle Obama for growing her own veggies and giving tips on healthy eating, stating she is a fascist that wants to take over your freedom of choice and how you feed your kids;
    but you’re fine and dandy with the state of AZ and its governor fining the overweight, diabetics and smokers – but not of course the corporations that profit by the billions stuffing this down people’s throats since they were kids, like Big Tobacco and McDonald’s (add to this that your doc can accuse you – or loved ones- of not following his orders if your diabetes is not under control, but no one can accuse the doctor of performing his job properly)

    You might be a teabagger if you are against abortion, but you’re OK with sending 18 year old kids, including your own offspring, to lose their limbs and/or lives to senseless made-up-by-profiteer wars.

    You might be a teabagger if you defend the wealthy and their tax cuts, being poor or middle class yourself and everyone you know, including your own family and neighbors.

    You might be a teabagger if love guns, Jesus, war and less taxes because social equality is a burden…
    … because you are the personification of contradiction…
    … because you enjoy listening to lying talking heads and continue to be willfully ignorant instead of thinking for yourself
    … because your fears have taken over your heart and your hatred says more about who you are than you’ll ever figure out…
    … because you made of this country a sad state of affairs, one that would make your own Jesus drop his head in shame.

    Republican rulers: They want all their benefits, but deny it to you, their constituents.
    Republican Government—> Elitist Oligarchs
    Republican Voters—> Just.Plain.DUMB.

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 11, 2011 at 4:26 pm

      Too much emotion, back it up with facts, where did your numbers come from?

  26. April 10, 2011 at 5:35 am

    The American family at its internet dinner table. I love it. We can have an intelligent discourse but without name calling it seems no one pays much attention, they just go to sleep like they do watching the weather report without storms brewing. There were some clear statements made despite the name calling that more or less convicted the “tea party” movement of having a majority of members who fear the government more than the corporations, and showing that liberals fear corporations more than the government. That, on the surface, is a dead tie, yet let us consider that in the rule of the government all people considered to be a legal adult, even the quasi legal adults of 18, 19, and 20, have a single vote in the government organization, while in the corporate organizations, if they are set up for voting at all, the rich have a thousands of stock owner votes and any ordinary citizen might have just a few. Now let’s look at which form of organization is the more patriotic. Coca Cola sold soda pop to the Nazis during the war an called it Fanta, and even now sell it here under the same name. IBM under a different name sold computer equipment to Nazi Germany, also during the war. OK, so you now think these corporations are flag waving patriots, that they have changed? You can also argue that many corporations were loyal during that time and are so today, despite being international in their power and giving jobs over seas during our hard times here at home. Ok, good luck with those arguments.

    Now back to the dinner table. Slurs, a tie, thinking wise a clear victory for the progressives here. Gay rights? Isn’t it irrational to ask them to not suffer the bonds of marriage like everyone else, and try to look monogamous instead of “wild”, again like everybody else? The Bible’s wisdom? “If one man shall lie with another as with a woman, they shall both be put to death.” Well, did the writer think of the possibility that one of them might have been being raped? What a bad day for that fellow eh? Empathy is a better moral guide and hate is not a “family value”. Union rights? Workers are just the smallest of businesses and conservatives believe in free markets and entrepreneurs, businesses organize for profit with one another and otherwise, yet workers shouldn’t be allowed to? You say they are free to leave? Well, what about to the “plantation” down the street with the same anti union efforts? Democracy? Well if you are Democratic why not, instead of depending on getting a majority in both the house and Senate, just insist on your way or defund the laws in place? Yes, if you don’t like the police giving you a ticket just don’t pay them, that will surely show them what side you are on.

    I don’t believe I have used a single bit of “name calling”, but even if I did, I would like a response based on issues and some semblance of logic. Those with real substance to their arguments don’t have to whine about name calling, I do however think we could better avoid it.

    Now perhaps you will say that not all conservatives believe what I have argued against here. Ok, then they shouldn’t vote Republican because these things are heavily stated in their Party Platforms.

    Have a good day ladies and gentlemen.

  27. Amused
    April 9, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Loved your article Bruce. I actually did laugh out loud several times because it so true. They are such hypocrites and make themselves look stupid. Looks like the crazies have left the building, stage right ‘of course! I look forward to your next article!

  28. Amused
    April 9, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Hahahahahahah!!!!!!! I think someone pissed off canofsand, maybe he is pissed because he is having to strain his brain to keep up. BUT……..as usual when any Republican gets their feathers ruffled and tries to explain their sides unexplainable idiology, they get really mean and downright nasty!!! This coming from the same guy talking about others being morally and/or intellectually bankrupt. Way to prove your point!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks for the laugh!!!!!!!!! You need not reply to my response I am not going to argue with you. I like to argue with people that intellectually challenge me, you just couldn’t keep up. I’m sure you are one of those people that can actually understand Sarah Palin, maybe you, Sarah and Bush could have a meeting of the minds. Hell, you all might solve the problems of the world…LOL Anyway, they are more your speed and Bachman might even join if you ask her really nice!!!!!!!!!

  29. Amused
    April 9, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    The opinions in the list above cannot be called facts; however, everything else is fact. For anyone who says it is not, then maybe you should do some research yourself and listening to Glenn Beck or any other Faux News program does not qualify as research……Sorry, but you might have to actually read or get someone to read to you.
    Sorry the pet name Teabagger hurts anyone’s feelings. I have been called names based on my party affiliation, long before the Tea Party came along. So… Hate it for ya, it’s not fun is it?
    I live in the south, so every bible thumping hypocrite that I meet is definitely a redneck. They are also clueless about anything factual. I am not a mean or hateful person, but I have been bullied, pushed around and called names long enough by the “self proclaimed” and “so called” Right Wing Christian Conservatives (who wouldn’t know Christianity if it punched them in their face). So game on. If you didn’t like what you were reading then you should have stopped reading it and moved on. Just like I don’t like Glenn Beck so I don’t watch him. Also, for the people who stated that the article or list above was so horrible, childish, and vile or you just considered it beneath you…. Why did you keep reading or even comment? Ahhhhhh…..You must be one of those hypocrites!!!! LOL

    Also, for those of you who are such wonderful people like Christians (we all know by the hookers your party members pick up and get caught with that you ill advised of the ways of this awful world) or that you are just naive, old fashioned Or maybe just prudish…… Here is an explanation of teabagging.
    Teabagging is when a guy sticks his nuts in a poor unsuspecting sleeping friend’s mouth as a practical joke. Not so funny when you are the one getting teabagged! It is similar to freezing a sleeping girl’s bra, also a practical joke. Just because I know what this means does not make me morally or intellectually bankrupt and for such a statement to be made, I would assume you also know the meaning……. Wouldn’t that make you also morally and intellectually bankrupt as well. Once again, someone’s statement screams HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!! I learned the meaning of the word from a military service member. I guess it’s nice for you to find out that your freedoms are being defended by such horrible people, that put their life on the line every time they go to work.

    Considering the party is such a joke and makes me want to vomit… I believe it is an accurate “nickname”.

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm

      Define what being a Christian means. Does it mean being perfect in every way? Come on show what you really do know? For instance who is really a “Christian” in our Christian society? Compare that to lets say the Islamic world, who is a Muslim in that part of the world? KNowing the definition is key. I suspect though that doesn;t matter in this discussion does it?

      • Amused
        April 13, 2011 at 12:00 pm

        Christianity does not equal being perfect. Christianity, however, does mean living your life in a Christ like way and being the best person you can be. Jesus died for our sins, but this was not a free pass. The people who claim so loudly to be Christian’s should be an example to the nonbelievers of how beautiful it is to live in God’s light, after all, God is love.

        http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-a-Christian.html

        As far as the Islamic faith is concerned, I do not understand what it has to do with my post. I made no reference to it at all and I am confused as to why you would make an issue of a nonissue?

        Why should I have to prove what I know? What I posted in my comments are my opinions. My comments had nothing to do with you, unless you just identified yourself with my comments and that is your issue not mine. The problem with most people is the fact that, they confuse facts and opinions. The article we have commented on states many opinions and facts, yet folks still try to argue about them and do not do their own research.

        • Tom Rossiter
          April 13, 2011 at 8:35 pm

          Amused I am glad you answered. You are the first on this post who when challenged my question in this case, or when asked to tell me where I was wrong “in every instance” and you did not get mad when someone replied in a manner that was applied in a manner toward you that had previously been appllied by you toward all of the people you were demeaning. You did not do the second part though. Read below you will see. Sorry about the typos. No point was that many mistate what Christians are, I confess I work about 11 hours a day so I don’t have time to get the site you mentioned. My point though is that many people do believe in Christianity, but it is often nominal. Some do it for monetarty/political gain. The Muslim point I was making was that in Islam you are born or converted (returned)into the faith. In our society we often say we are Christian, but we have no idea what that means, but because our society is most closest to that faith we often say by default that we are. Thank you for answering.

          Next question, what caused you to have this reaction to those who failed in the faith? In Christianity, I have a few friends who were turned off a long time ago by the clergy. One went back to the faith , the other has not 30 years later. What people do often has long damaging consequences.

          Good luck.

  30. Carol Wells
    April 9, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    I think your list is on target and really funny. However, No. 25 – God is omnipotent, I’m sure you meant Jesus, not God.

  31. Ed
    April 9, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Switch Dianne Feinstein to Barbara Boxer, and you’d be perfect.

  32. Helen Tarnation
    April 9, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    @canofsand–You’ve got a point, but your tinfoil hat covers it. Turn off FauxNews and go out and yell at the kids to get off your lawn…

  33. Harold Harcourt
    April 9, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    This is a great list. It needs to be published in a Wiki format where it can be a resource for all and updated regularly with new gaffs, lapses in judgment and hypocrisy arises from the far right. (and there will surely be more, so leave a lot of room).

  34. Bruce Lindner
    April 8, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Golllleeee! A whole gaggle of Teabigots commented on my article simultaneously, yet none of them touched on anything I wrote. CanofSand, you at least tried, but it was at best, a pedestrian effort. I’m on my iPhone at this moment, but I PROMISE to dissect your flawed responses later.

    But I have to ask; why the gang replies; did they cancel the regular Friday KKK jamboree? Or are you all staying home to watch Boehner cave in on your insipid demands that he defund the EPA, NPR and Planned Parenthood? Good luck with that. :)

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 11, 2011 at 4:20 pm

      I’ll believe it when I see it. Sounds like another empty promise to me.

  35. CanofSand
    April 5, 2011 at 6:15 am

    0) “Teabagger” is a vulgar term used in some corners by ignorants but primarily by scumbags who know exactly what it means and, being intellectually and morally bankrupt, use it anyway to describe people they disagree with politically and thus, being shallow, small-minded bigots, hate with an irrational, passionate hatred.

    1) “even though nobody objects when people show up at your rallies with blatantly racist signs and slogan”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8I3FbC_hq8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvcIzpyzAUs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbTnieYXjjk

    MSNBC: Guys Carrying Guns to Rallies Are Racists, Especially This Guy Whose Skin Color We Will Now Proceed to Hide from Your View
    http://patterico.com/2009/08/19/msnbc-guys-carrying-guns-to-rallies-are-racists-especially-this-guy-whose-skin-color-we-will-now-proceed-to-hide-from-your-view/

    Gallup: Tea Party racial makeup same as the country overall (same with education, employment status)
    Not so much for Obama voters (at least in the race category; I didn’t get data on the rest).

    2) Reagan also won the Cold War by spending the Soviets into oblivion; they couldn’t keep up. Today’s situation is vastly different, with not even comparable deficits and spending levels, let alone something comparable to the Cold War arms/tech race. However, Reagan wasn’t perfect. It hardly diminishes the point.

    3) Even ignoring the fact that the mocking of Pelosi’s crying doesn’t even approach the media-backed echo-chamber claims of how much of a “crybaby” Boehner is, you twist both sides of the equation to pull this one off:
    “when she reflected on the murder of her friend” – that’s not where most of the mocking comes in. The video that’s most mocked is the one with the totally-unconvincing sobs about the “violent rhetoric” (from e.g. the nonviolent Tea Party movement) that she compares to RIOTS in the 60s.
    “when John Boehner blubbers when he watches reruns of Flipper” – that’s nothing but an attack right there. There’s nothing to respond to; all you’ve done is proven my point about the type of vitriol you spew against Boehner.

    4) First, the Tea Party did NOT call for an invasion into Tunisia or Egypt. Second, there are huge differences there. Third, your reliance on emotion over logic shows big time (painting collateral damage as murder, as if “some women and children died” is all you need to say, ever, forget the other details). Fourth, before I waste time elucidating, how do you justify the recent actions in Libya?

    5) Pathetic straw man. Not only is skepticism of global warming alarmism NOT a “Tea Party” thing but rather a growing “most Americans” thing, and not only can you not show Inhofe is in “big oil”‘s pockets, but Inhofe is hardly the REASON for this doubt at all. It’s like you’re not even trying to make an intellectually honest argument here… because you aren’t.

    6) The birther thing is not a Tea Party mainstay. It’s not an issue they talk about, and if it comes up, it’s routinely mocked just as much as anywhere else. You can’t deal with the fact the Breitbart, Beck, and so many others mock birthers, while Chris Matthews and other Lefties say Obama should have released the birth certificate. You don’t deal in facts; you deal in insults and painting people you disagree with as crazies because you can’t handle their arguments.

    7) “fair share of taxes” – what exactly IS the rich’s fair share of taxes? 50%? 70%? Some of the redistribution-of-wealth Leftists, AKA socialists, say that 99% isn’t enough! (Gasp! He said “socialists” to describe far Left radicals who want to redistribute wealth, clearly a socialist thing but it’s still not OK to use the term for some reason that defies logic! How dare he! It’s practically McCarthyism! /sarc) The rest of your sentence only reinforces that you’re a socialist. Healthcare, housing, food, equal wealth (despite individuals’ unequal economic value to others), etc. etc. are not and never have been rights.

    8) “You think Glenn Beck’s theory of a Code Pink/Muslim/Communist alliance conspiracy to take over the world in a 21st Century caliphate makes perfect sense.”
    You mean the theory that’s been validated again and again by people across the political spectrum?

    The one the New York Times mocked him for, and then later said was happening?
    http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/02/10/nyt-to-glenn-happy-birthday/

    “In the process many have formed some unusual bonds that reflect the singularly nonideological character of the Egyptian youth revolt, which encompasses liberals, socialists and members of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

    Is Harvard professor Niall Ferguson a Tea Partier?
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/harvard-professor-by-2021-we-could-see-a-restored-caliphate/

    9) I shouldn’t even have to explain to you how stupid that one is. The Fairness Doctrine is inherently government-controlled-and-regulated speech. The Citizens United decision is inherently a (partial) rejection of government-controlled-and-regulated speech. Painting it any other way is just spin.

    10) Again, this isn’t even logical in the least. Being pro-life isn’t a Tea Party “thing.” MANY are libertarians who take no stand or are pro-choice. In any case, we all know what pro-life means and that murder isn’t an “abortion.” And either you’re more horribly blinded by hate than I thought, or you know the pro-life people are NOT pro-murder of abortion doctors.

    11) You’ve just proven how INSANELY HYPER-PARTISAN AND, frankly, FLAT-OUT STUPID you are – or that you think your readers are all buffoons (perhaps most of them are). NO ONE but LUNATICS see a connection there. THERE IS NONE. NONE AT ALL. LAUGHNER NEVER EVER SAW THE MAP. EVEN IF HE HAD, “TARGET” SYMBOLS ARE PERFECTLY NORMAL (Dems did the exact same thing in previous maps readily available on the Internet!) AND ONLY FOOLS WOULD SAY SOCIETY/MEDIA/POLITICAL SPEECH SHOULD BE “CRAZY-PERSON PROOF” (ANYTHING could set off some crazy to do something bad, ANYTHING). Even the mainstream media idiots who were harping day after day about that “connection” later realized how STUPID it was of them to do that and they’ve backed down from it.

    No point even continuing this after reading #11 there, but I will throw in something for #12 since it’s just so asinine:

    12) Duh. Conservatives want to elect conservatives. How scandalous.

    Some Leftists are able to make arguments that, while flawed, at least seem intellectually honest. You, obviously, are not. You’re a hopelessly hateful irrational bigot.

    • April 9, 2011 at 4:53 pm

      Yeah, those libtards are so mean, aren’t they? You’d never try to belittle someone with whom you disagree politically. Oh, wait.

      BTW, a lefty is someone who writes (or masturbates, depending on context) with his or her left hand.

      But seriously, if you think you have a PR problem, get better PR. Because as it stands, the Tea Party looks like a bunch of racist, xenophobic sore losers.

      • Tom Rossiter
        April 11, 2011 at 4:18 pm

        Losers? I did not fall for them “whole hog” (believe it or not-I do not think Sarah or Barbara Bachmann are great) but, they sure had an impact didn’t they?

    • LinA
      April 10, 2011 at 11:00 am

      The term teabagger is what they called THEMSELVES in the beginning moron.

  36. Stormin Norman
    March 29, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Teabaggers are not racists and hillbillies!. Now, if you teabaggers will just put down those hoods and banjos, we can talk.

    • CanofSand
      April 5, 2011 at 6:17 am

      Typical Lefty, not only seeing what you want to see, but actually hallucinating in order to see it.

    • Grinnin' Gabi
      April 9, 2011 at 10:16 pm

      Thank you Stormin’ Norman!

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 11, 2011 at 4:14 pm

      And your facts come from where.you have presupposed opinions about people who disagree with you. The next step is probably not so far is it?

  37. Guy Reynolds
    March 21, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    @Catt: you asked for it:

    1) The assertion that if you do not object when people show up with blatantly racist signs and slogans then you are a racist is false. While it is possible that a lack of rejection could be due to the assenter being racist, it is also possible that the lack of rejection is due to many other things including: fear of confrontation, apathy, lack of recognition, etc.

    • Bruce Lindner
      April 8, 2011 at 1:41 pm

      Guy, you’ve made a good point. It would not be accurate to accuse all Teabaggers of being racists, just because they associate with racists within their political spheres.

      But what IS accurate, is that you coddle, tolerate, and openly accept racists within your ranks. That my uber-conservative friend, is a cold, hard FACT. So basically, you’re no different than how your party leadership (Lol!) has equated practically ever Muslim with al Qaeda — guilty by association. How’s it feel?

      • April Storm
        April 10, 2011 at 11:53 am

        No we don’t Mr. Lindner. That’s a blatant lie also. How do you know who we ‘coddle, tolerate or accept into our ranks’. Herman Cain was the guest speaker at one of the tea parties I went to. So, what the hell are you ‘spewing’ here? If you’re referring to islam…read the koran and see if it’s a ‘religion’ (it’s not) of peace. (it’s not!) Unless these ‘moderate muslims’ everyone refers to go by a different ‘koran’, than yes, they are violent and untolerant since the koran calls for the conversion to islam OR the demise of all infidels.

        • Tom Rossiter
          April 11, 2011 at 4:06 pm

          You know the saying April “When you argue with a fool……” Don’t get too attached to this debate.

        • T
          July 1, 2011 at 11:47 pm

          To paraphrase you:

          Unless these ‘moderate Christians’ everyone refers to go by a different ‘bible’, than yes, they are violent and untolerant since the bible calls for the conversion to christianity OR the demise of all unbelievers.”

          Too close to home?

          • thomas rossiter
            July 8, 2011 at 10:00 pm

            Where in the Bible does it call for the extermination of all non-believers? When you make a statement, back it up or be ready to.
            Now in the old testament, when the Israelites were conquering Canaan, they were told to in many cases, kill off everything in the cities they conquered.
            In the New Testament, that was not the case. So in effect it was a situational commandment, not an enduring one.
            Armegeddon is not a war between the Christian Faithful and the non-faithful, God takes vengeance on behalf of his kingdom.
            You do not have to believe it, but be more precise in your statements.

            • Bruce Lindner
              July 9, 2011 at 4:54 am

              Thomas, I do believe “T” is referring to the New Testament’s text of the Tribulation. Does it not say that only the “saved” will be taken to Paradise, and all others to suffer the consequences? It’s right there in black & white mon ami… (BTW, it’s spelled “Armageddon,” a rather narrow plain in the southern Galilee, hardly large enough to contain the Lebanese army, let alone the forces of Russia, Iran, Israel and Egypt. Another updated fairy tale by the religious right.)

  38. Guy Reynolds
    March 21, 2011 at 1:52 pm

    Just another example of divisive trash.

    @anyone calling this list of false claims “truths” or “facts”: You should learn to use a dictionary.

    @Bruce: Your argument that the Tea Party painted themselves as racists and hillbillies is flawed. You assert that if there is a gathering 100,000 people and less than ½ of 1% of them represent a minority and there are signs and banners that are openly racists then the group is racist. However, you’ve presented a two-part premise, which requires both parts be valid; if either part is invalid, the entire premise is invalid. Clearly, the first part “any gathering of 100,000 people with less than ½ of 1% representing a minority is racist” is false. The second part could (arguably) be valid, but since you chose to include the obviously ignorant first part, any reader with any sense is forced to conclude your assertion is ridiculous.

    @anyone celebrating Bruce’s “Tea Party painted themselves as racist” post: How people choose to celebrate this type of simple-minded discourse is beyond me. Do you have no facility for reason? Don’t the logical flaws leap out at you and scream “just more bullshit!”? I don’t mean to be overly abrasive, but, seriously, think! Don’t just rally with any sort of drivel simply because it supports your view.

    @Stephen: The United States isn’t a Democracy. (Although I do agree with your sentiment regarding: the onus lies on us, the citizenry.)

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 11, 2011 at 4:04 pm

      Wasn’t Robert Byrd a Klan Wizard????

      • Tom Rossiter
        April 11, 2011 at 6:15 pm

        Hence, if Robert Byrd was a Klansman, all Dems must be. Huh, that is as false as the man stating all Yet Partiers are racist, especially if they did not condemn that activity, that logic does not work because you then have to use the same logic toward the Dems who gave Senator a bye all of those years too.

  39. Erik Viker
    March 21, 2011 at 8:01 am

    If you are weary of the left-versus-right rivalry that has damaged our government, join the Libertarian Party and help build a rwasonable alternative: http://www.lp.org

  40. Scamp
    March 20, 2011 at 1:40 am

    You might be a teabagger if you think Duct tape can fix anything.

    • Robert Jaeger
      April 10, 2011 at 6:46 pm

      You Are A Teabagger If Your Double Wide Has A refrigerator On The Porch With At Least 3 Cars Parked On The Lawn In Front With Only One That Works And You And your Live In Share The Only Vehicle That Runs To Get To your Great Benefitless Job At Walmart.

  41. Mary Ann Burke
    March 17, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Congratulations to you on this piece. Clearly, you have surpassed the vicious hatred of which you accuse the teabaggers. I am not a teabagger, a racist, nor a “redneck.” I am pro-choice. But I am conservative on many issues. The last time I checked, many liberals “call names.” (Redneck, racist, etc.)This is called freedom of speech. I guess I was absent the day they taught that this freedom is reserved only for liberals.

    • Mary Ann Burke
      March 17, 2011 at 11:12 am

      Why does my comment have to “await moderation”? Does this mean you are going to censor a perfectly civil response to this article?

    • mike awesome
      April 9, 2011 at 4:40 pm

      no. just shows you have a brain. its one thing to be an individual with a political opinion. its another to spew insults like the tea party does daily

      • April Storm
        April 10, 2011 at 11:40 am

        Mike…where is this ‘spewing’ taking place??? I think yr mistaken!

        • Tom Rossiter
          April 11, 2011 at 4:02 pm

          Notice he did not answer you

  42. Mark
    March 17, 2011 at 10:48 am

    You only post comments that are in agreement with the post? That sounds pretty chickenshit.

  43. March 17, 2011 at 8:12 am

    A worthy condensation of the facts and a decent contrast of positions. Holding people accountable to their own words, labels, or emotional sentiments remains something that many on the Reactionary Right ever want to be confronted with. Every citizen has a right to be angry at the corrupt power shift away from democratic institutions and into the hands of financial power brokers. Where the problem really lies is in the perception of how that is happening. What passes for exerting responsibility is nothing more than old fashioned blaming: childish and destructive. No matter what one superimposes onto this debate, our voting actually puts these representatives in power. Big money just polishes our candidate to a high sheen of false fronts and they trade their allegiance to those money machines. If any of us are to blame in America it is we the citizenry for not being more responsible and substituting consumerism for citizenry. Many have said it and it has been paraphrased hundreds of ways, but this adage is true: “In a democracy, people get the government they deserve.”

    • Tom Rossiter
      April 11, 2011 at 4:09 pm

      Define reactionary right. I know what it means, humor us,

  44. Mark
    March 16, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Fred Phelps is a Democrat. Therefore, democrats are homophobic. Right?

  45. Mark
    March 16, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    OMG you are so clever!

  46. Lora Fowler
    March 16, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Bruce, you are too cool for school!!!

  47. JZ
    March 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    So what about those of us that don’t subscribe to either of the options provided in the list?

  48. james mchenry
    March 16, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    Any person who uses the expression teatbagger has degenerated to childish name calling. Also I do not understand how people get away with using this expression. Using homosexuality as an insult has no place in our modern society. You should all feal shamed by me, a conservative, playing this side of the debate, especially with how you paint us as racists and hillbillies

    • March 16, 2011 at 3:04 pm

      “Teabaggers” was a term FIRST used to describe the tea party by Fox News. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you post asinine comments.

      • Bruce Lindner
        March 16, 2011 at 3:20 pm

        You beat me to it. :)

      • CanofSand
        April 5, 2011 at 6:23 am

        “by Fox News”

        Wow. So now the spin has evolved from “Tea Partiers themselves said it” to “Fox News said it?” First, that’s a lie. Second, either way, it’s IRRELEVANT: How does someone who doesn’t know the vulgar meaning of a term naively using it in an improper way JUSTIFY others who know perfectly well what a vile term it is using it as an epithet? The answer is obvious: IT DOESN’T. You’re intellectually bankrupt if you don’t understand that, and you’re morally bankrupt and intellectually dishonest if you use it despite understanding this.

        • Rich
          April 13, 2011 at 10:29 am

          Firstly, to tell the truth is not “spin” …the Teabaggers first called themSELVES that, and then Fox repeated it (before they realized the dreadful implications of teabagging). Secondly, when the `baggers stop using the term “Obamacare” – which the White House has never used itself – then I’ll stop using the term TeaBagger. If they want the name calling to stop, they should probably not use it themselves. Seems they can dish it out but can’t take it.

        • Joe
          April 16, 2011 at 7:26 am

          Not a lie, sorry. Fox News is, in part, responsible for the tea party. They organized rallies then reported on them… And at the time, they called party members “tea baggers.” A quick YouTube search would depict this truth.

    • Bruce Lindner
      March 16, 2011 at 3:27 pm

      James, it was not us on the left who painted the Tea Party as racists and hillbillies, it was the Tea Partiers themselves who accomplished that feat. When you have a crowd of 100,000, and less than 1/2 of 1% represents a minority… and the signs and banners are OPENLY RACIST — then don’t bitch if we rub your noses in it.

      Besides, not all of them were racists and hillbillies… Some were bumpkins and yokels.

      • Mark
        March 16, 2011 at 4:17 pm

        Hey Bruce, can you give me some stats on the minority turnout of the Wisconsin protests? I went to Madison last week and didn’t see many non-white protesters, certainly not more than 1%. A search through pages of google images from the protests and I can only find one black guy, Jesse Jackson.

        • Bruce Lindner
          April 8, 2011 at 1:32 pm

          Gosh Mark, I’ll be darned if I can. What do you suppose the African-American demographic might be in Madison, versus… oh, let’s say Houston or Baltimore? This ain’t rocket science folks.

          • Brian from Wisconsin
            April 9, 2011 at 6:15 pm

            Bruce, before you state something ridiculous lke that, note that protesters came in from all over the state. I can vouch for Milwaukee as being about half African American. Plenty of white Church busses hauled plenty of angry white folks to Madison. The fact that the black churches didn’t, points to a unique demographic.

      • April Storm
        April 10, 2011 at 11:22 am

        Been to three teaparty rallies and have yet to see one racist sign. (or any preprinted mass produced ones!)
        Go to a rally yourself and take pics and post them for me, K? Oh, and I don’t mind the term teabagger. It has a lot more respect than ‘leftist socialist’ does. This whole article is crap though, you do know that, right? LOL!!

        • Joel
          April 12, 2011 at 8:37 am

          Only took me 2 mins to find this video, 6 min video of racist signs at Tea Party rallies.

        • Josie
          May 23, 2011 at 12:46 pm

          You might also be a teabagger if even when presented with FACTS, you call them crap.

    • April 6, 2011 at 10:22 am

      The sexual act of tegbagging is gender neutral. Both males and females can teabag. It’s only a homosexual act if two men are involved.

      Other folks have brought the origin of using teabagger as an adjective for tea party supporter.

    • mike awesome
      April 9, 2011 at 4:36 pm

      but tea party members call obama HUSSEIN, and Barry, and “the fake president” but when someone calls bush W, the tea party goes up in arms as if someone has ripped someones arms off, and killed kittens and children

      • April Storm
        April 10, 2011 at 11:35 am

        Mike, no they don’t! There is nothing insulting or disrespectful in calling Bush W! (or Dubya as we like to call him here in the south!) We love him. He’s real. He’s American. Unlike O! LOL!

        • Colleen
          April 11, 2011 at 11:37 am

          He is also an idiot and a political whore who did not give a damn about anybody not of his ilk, or in his own words, “the haves, and the elite.” And, Dubya suits him. He puts the Duh un Dubya.

        • PattyO
          April 11, 2011 at 12:45 pm

          FYI the french word dubieux (pronounced dubya) means either dubious or doubtful one. And just out of curiosity April, could you tell us why you “feel” “O” isn’t American ?

          • Willow57
            May 25, 2011 at 9:45 am

            @Patty! Love it! LOL-The meaning of Dubya. That’s what they call him in the south they say…well it looks like they picked a name that is highly appropriate for him. lol I’m in the south and in my part of the woods(Texas) they call him Shrub!lol

        • Madison
          April 27, 2011 at 3:17 pm

          Please do no speak for all Southerners. I do not love George Bush.

        • Madison
          April 27, 2011 at 3:18 pm

          Please, do not speak for all Southerners. I do not love George Bush.

    • Kim W
      April 9, 2011 at 4:59 pm

      James, I seem to recall the Teabaggers being the first ones to call themselves Teabaggers. It wasn’t until it was pointed out that Teabagging can have a somewhat nasty connotation that they started calling themselves Tea Partiers.

      And frankly, I am with Bill Maher on this…when Teabaggers stop calling health care reform Obamacare, I will quit calling them Teabaggers.

    • toni irwin
      April 9, 2011 at 5:00 pm

      the teabaggers named themselves…and who said teabagging is only for gays????

    • Rocco
      May 20, 2011 at 9:20 pm

      You’re not smart….Palinite.

  49. Catt Cantu
    March 16, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Love it! Loooove it! I’d love to see them try to defend these truths.

  50. FirstSarnt
    March 14, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    You might be a teabagger if you think Obama violates the Constitution by requiring health insurance, but you’re perfectly fine with Bush unilaterally suspending your rights under the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8th, 9th, and 14th Amendments.

    You might be a teabagger if you think the first sentence of the First Amendment – “Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion” – applies to everyone except fundamentalist christians.

    You might be a teabagger if you think a bachelor’s degree in communications that took six years and five colleges to earn is the academic equivalent of a law degree from Harvard.

    You might be a teabagger if you can understand anything Sarah Palin says.

    • John
      April 18, 2011 at 4:44 pm

      You may be a teabagger if you post comments on Yahoo news articles in ALL CAPS with several mispelled words for each post.

    • Gregg Ryan
      May 22, 2011 at 6:35 pm

      Please put me down for a huge “ditto” on EVERYTHING that you just posted! :-)

    • Willow57
      May 25, 2011 at 9:35 am

      LOL! This article is so funny and guess what…true! Teabaggers….irony..irony. I’m sure they get it or understand your point! Hilarious!

      • Willow57
        May 25, 2011 at 9:37 am

        Sorry: I should have typed “I’m sure they don’t get it or understand your point.”

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