The Return Of The Confederacy

Author: April 19, 2011 7:58 am

“The South shall rise again!” Who knew these words would be so prophetic? Indeed, not only has the South risen, but it has also brought the Confederacy with it. However, this time it isn’t the Democratic Party that is bringing up the Confederacy, it is in fact, the Republican Party.

Confederate sympathizers have been around since the end of the Civil War in 1865 but it has only been since President Obama took office in January 2009 that the Confederacy movement reared its ugly head. Driven by racism and hatred of government and liberals, the Republican Party has revealed itself to be the political force behind this resurgence, and they aren’t even trying to deny it.

In the last two years, Republicans have been touting states rights in their effort to take down President Obama and destroy the federal government. There have been threats to secede, proposals in states to print their own separate legal tender, rewrites of American history to glorify the Confederacy movement, and increasing racism.

There are many actions happening today that mirror events in the past that led to the formation of the Confederacy, one of which, is the threat of secession. Many states and individuals have either stated that secession is on the table or have come right out and threatened it outright. In April 2009, Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax tea party audience with his stance against the federal government and for states’ rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, “Secede!” Perry stated that “There’s a lot of different scenarios…But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.” Perry clearly fanned the flames of rebellion with his statements but it’s not just that one crowd or Perry himself, it’s at least half of Republicans in Texas. One poll reveals that half of Texas Republicans favor seceding. And Texas isn’t the only state that has made this threat.

In April 2009, the State Senate in Georgia also threatened to secede not long after Texas made its threat. Later in July, Zach Wamp, the US Representative of Tennessee stated during his run for Governor, “I hope that the American people will go to the ballot box in 2010 and 2012 so that states are not forced to consider separation from this government.” Wamp also promised to refuse to implement the federal health care law at the state level if elected Governor of Tennessee. Then, just this past February, Arizona’s Republican Senate voted to secede. The secession bill also asserts that Arizona can nullify and refuse to abide by any federal laws with which it does not want to comply. Russell Pearce, the lawmaker who introduced the bill stated that, “It’s not the law of the land when a Supreme Court issues a bad decision. It’s to be challenged and overturned.” Basically, Pearce is saying that whatever the Supreme Court passes isn’t the law of the land if he deems it a bad decision. Many other states are also considering secession, including Mississippi, Oklahoma, Alabama and a few others. And it’s no surprise that most of these states are located in the South.

This isn’t the first time that Southern states have threatened to secede. In the 1850′s, the threat of secession occurred throughout the South. The argument of course concerned slavery. Southern states threw temper tantrums from time to time so that they could get their way. In 1860, the South objected to the anti-slavery Republican Party winning the Presidency and took their threats to the next level. One by one they seceded because Abraham Lincoln had been legally elected as the 16th US President. The South believed wrongfully that they had the right to own slaves when in fact, no such right exists in the Constitution. In this time period, the Republicans were the liberals fighting for the Union and the freedom of slaves. Democrats were the conservatives of the era fighting for slavery and states rights. Contrary to what Republicans believe today, the Constitution does not permit a state to secede once it is a part of the Union. Nowhere in the Constitution does it give a state the right to secede, nor does it give states the power to ignore laws they don’t like. It took a Civil War to settle that and the Supreme Court has even weighed in. In Texas v White in 1869, the court stated that the entry of Texas into the United States was its entry into “an indissoluble relation.” It said that only through revolution or mutual consent of the state and the United States could a state leave the Union.

But threats of secession are not the only actions that Republicans in the South have undertaken. There are many other signs that Republicans have completely embraced the Confederacy. Take money for example. One of the first things that southern states did to prepare for secession was to print their own separate currencies. Many Republicans in multiple red states are pushing to do the same thing in the present day. As of today, Georgia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah have all introduced bills or have passed bills that allow their states to print their own money, or decide what constitutes legal tender. In North Carolina, state Rep. Glen Bradley wants his state to issue its own legal tender backed by silver and gold. He is also drafting a second bill that would require state government to accept gold and silver coins as payment for taxes and fees. Bobby Franklin, a Republican state legislator from Georgia, has introduced a new piece of legislation that, if passed, would force Georgians to pay their taxes in pre-1965 gold and silver coins. In Utah, the Senate approved a bill that would require the state to recognize gold and silver coins as legal tender. Another proposal in Utah would allow residents to operate their own mints.
And a proposal in Virginia would allow the state to print its own money. These actions are all unconstitutional as well. The Constitution specifically states that only the federal government has the power to coin money and only the federal government has the power to decide what constitutes legal tender. It forbids states from printing their own money. The Constitution is clear on this subject. Republicans are knowingly violating the law of the land. But there’s more.

Republicans all over the South are making it a priority to honor and glorify the Confederacy and everything it stood for, including treason, racism, and slavery. Once again we take a look at Texas, where officials there are rushing 888 million dollars worth of new changes to textbooks that rewrite American history to turn the slave trade into the Atlantic triangle trade, and to present more Confederate figures in the Civil War as heroes. Texas is also crafting the Civil Rights Movement as being little more than a footnote in history. Republicans are trying to brainwash American children. They want kids to look up to the traitorous leaders of the Confederacy and become nothing more than a foot soldier willing to wage war against the United States. They want children to see other races as inferior to whites and they want to make kids believe that slavery is right. They also want people to believe that states rights can overrule federal law.

Republicans are glorifying the Confederacy in other ways too. Virginia’s Republican Governor Bob McDonnell declared April to be “Confederate History Month,” the first time in 8 years that such a proclamation had been issued in the state. And McDonnell conveniently omitted slavery as a part of that history. The Confederacy is not something that should be honored. If anything Virginia should apologize for being a traitorous state that treated African Americans like animals and stabbing the Constitution in the back in its effort to continue doing so. The rest of the South should apologize as well. Repeatedly. To honor such a dubious bunch of traitors is treason itself and Republicans should be ashamed to call themselves patriotic Americans. They have no right to proclaim their love for America while plotting against it at the same time.

Then there’s Mississippi, where The Mississippi Division of Sons of Confederate Veterans is proposing a license plate that honors Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest, who was also an early leader of the Ku Klux Klan. To even propose such a thing should be a crime and what’s worse is that Governor Haley Barbour refuses to denounce it. Governor Barbour has been known to defend white supremacy groups and the Confederate history of the South. Just another Southerner that refuses to let go of the past. Part of that refusal to let go of the past are the current calls to repeal parts or all of the Civil Rights Act which protects people, particularly those who are not white, from being discriminated against based on their skin color, national origin, and race. Many Republicans freely admit their disdain for the Civil Rights Act, including Rand Paul who publicly stated his belief of repealing Civil Rights in an interview with Rachel Maddow of MSNBC. Republicans want Civil Rights repealed because they want to return to segregation. They say that businesses should have the right to do business with whoever they want but that’s not the entire story. Republicans know that if businesses have the right to discriminate, so will hospitals, private schools, and so on. This is why Republicans are calling for an end to the public school system in favor of private schools. Republicans want to separate white kids from black kids and want to make it harder for black people to get medical care.

But it gets more sinister than that. Republicans intend to bring back Jim Crow as a way to keep African Americans from voting. This already occurs in Virginia and Kentucky where even if you have a minor criminal record, you are forbidden to vote. You can apply for clemency from the governor but unless it’s granted, you have no right to vote even though you’ve served your time. This criminal disenfranchisement all goes back to Jim Crow and the reason for it is very clear. During the Virginia Constitutional Convention of 1901, delegate Carter Glass described the criminal disenfranchisement provision as part of a plan to “eliminate the darkey as a political factor in this state in less than 5 years, so that in no single county…will there be the least concern felt for the complete supremacy of the white race in the affairs of government.” More than 300,000 people have lost the right to vote for life in Virginia. One in five African-Americans, and one in four African-American men, have no voting rights in Virginia due to this provision. African Americans make up one fifth of Virginia’s population, but over half of those denied the right to vote are African-American. And Virginia plans to make it even harder to get voting rights back. They are adding a written essay to the application to make former convicts explain why they should get back their civil rights. To me, this is just a way to keep people from voting. Any trumped up charges against an African American and a racist judge corrupt enough to lock them up is all it would take to remove another potential Democratic voter off the rolls. I agree that if you are IN prison, you shouldn’t have the right to vote, but once you’ve served your time, you should have ALL of your rights as a free citizen. But Republicans want to game the system and make elections easier to win for themselves.
Call it whatever you want to call it, to me, Republicans are committing treason by even thinking about doing these things. Republicans were the ones who originally brought down the Confederacy in the first place and now the Party of Lincoln has been hijacked by a bunch of Confederate sympathizers who long for the good old days of treason, states rights, and slavery. Today’s Republican Party is proud of the Confederate flag and what it stands for. South Carolina still flies the Confederate flag outside of the state house. No government entity, whether it be local, state, or federal, should be allowed to fly that flag. Period. Its the flag of traitors and racists and has no place in American society where everyone is considered equal. If Republicans are so proud of the Confederacy, they must also be proud of slavery. Proud of those who beat and lynched African Africans. Proud of those who are responsible for the deaths of 600,000 Americans. Proud of the people who assassinated President Lincoln. Proud of those who segregated the South. Proud of those who almost destroyed this nation that Republicans claim to love. They must also be proud of the Ku Klux Klan and the crosses they burn. The South hasn’t learned anything from their utter defeat during the Civil War. They have thirsted for revenge for almost 150 years now, and have passed on their hatred of government, liberals, and people of color to their children and grandchildren in the hope that one day, the South can rise back up and re-institute the Confederacy and everything it was all about. Republicans are nothing more than neo-Confederates that have shown their true colors because a black man became President of the United States. It’s time to punish Republicans for their treasonous ways. The federal government can cut the budget and pay down the debt by completely cutting off the South. No more welfare, no more government grants, no more money for education, no more Medicare or Social Security, no more transportation, infrastructure, energy, and health care funding. And no more grants or funding to southern based corporations. If you live in the South, you will have no one to blame but the Republicans that run your part of the country. They’re the ones calling for cuts of this funding. I say cut the funding from the South and put it to good use where people want the funding. I’d love to watch Republicans explain to their southern constituents why they have nothing. We do not need a war to punish Republican turncoats. All we need to do is punish them economically. Anybody who glorifies treason and racism do not deserve to have the freedom and rights that the United States has. Republicans are playing a dangerous game with all these threats of secession and refusals to follow federal law. The Confederacy is no more and should remain dead. All Confederate flags need to be burned and any glorification of the Confederacy needs to permanently end. But if Republicans choose to continue their treasonous actions, they had better watch their necks, because last time I checked, the punishment for treason is still execution. It may be time to start building scaffolds.

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  • Sorry folks, but I’ve lived in the South my whole life, and the article was about 85% correct. I think the author gives most Southerners a little too much credit for planning this, but mostly they are right. I hear the excuses all the time…States Rights, culture, Heritage, Family, yadda, yadda, yadda. Keep telling yourselves that BS, but I’m white too, and I hear the things you say when you think no one is listening (I know eavesdropping is rude and unmannerly, but it is a Southern tradition after all). I still think racism is about the whole larger penis thing…yeah, I said it, but it is ALWAYS mentioned. Just sayin and all.

  • Something you MUST remember about not only the creation of the confederacy but more importantly the creation of laws to disenfranchise voters between 1890 and 1905 is that while African Americans were a prime target -keeping the slave institution and restricting suffrage, respectively- poor whites also were just as much of a target.
    The Plantation class specifically wanted to maintain the entire socio-economic system of the South, which means they wanted to maintain the two tier class structure, the land-owning class and the peasants (everyone else); and the South’s newly re-organized post-Reconstruction ruling class wanted to prevent any attempts to alter the South’s socio-economic structure.
    The anti-Populists – which were both Democratic and Republican – between 1890 and 1905 sought to ensure that poor whites also were prevented from participating in the electoral process. They created paramilitary groups like the White League and Red Shirts to kill, etc… poor whites and African Americans who attempted to vote or run for office.
    Check-out this excerpt from Political Science Quarterly in 1905:
    ‘How to get rid of the venal and ignorant among white men as voters was a far more serious and difficult problem than how to get rid of the undesirable among the negroes as voters… it was generally wished by leaders in Alabama to disfranchise many unworthy white men, as a practical matter… Hence, as the next best thing, the evils of ignorance and venality among the white electorate were reduced to a minimum by making their further lease of life as short as possible… To rid the state eventually, so far as could possibly be done by law, of the corrupt and ignorant among its electorate, white as well as black, the poll tax and vagrancy clauses were put into the constitution. The evil of having only one party was fully recognized, and it was believed that by securing a plan which would eventually give the state a clean and intelligent electorate, the way was being opened for [ruling class] white men to divide into parties and to vote according to their convictions on economic and public questions.’ can be found in Francis G Caffey. ‘Suffrage Limitations at the South,’ Political Science Quarterly. 20:1 (March 1905) pages 53-67.
    Also take a look at George H Haynes. ‘Education Qualifications for the Suffrage in the United States,’ Political Science Quarterly. 13:3 (September 1898) pages 495-513 and Frank Johnston. ‘Suffrage and Reconstruction in Mississippi,’ in Franklin L Riley (editor). Publications of the Mississippi Historical Society, Volume 6. (Oxford: University of Mississippi Press, 1902) pages 141-244. Johnston provides detailed information about the state’s legislature devising laws that would restrict suffrage rights for both African Americans AND poor whites.
    This is not dissimilar to the laws now being passed in 36 states that aim to implement suffrage restrictions against the non-ruling classes, i.e. the lower classes (African American, Latino, Hispanic, AND white).
    The Civil Rights Act of 1965 restored/ensured suffrage rights and civil rights for both African Americans AND poor whites, as well as all US citizens in general. So, we must NEVER forget that no one is safe from the attempts of the ruling classes to secure their politico-economic power. White, African American, Latino, Hispanic- ALL are targets.

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  • Nell Hansen

    I say let them secede, but only AFTER they’ve paid back THEIR portion of the Federal debt.

    Most Southern states are net PARASITES on the Federal budget, with Mississippi being the worst (receiving TWICE from Washington what they paid it).

    Texas, the loudest on this neo-Secession movement, can’t secede and remain free. The Mexican drug lords would have it overrun in less than 24 hours. The Zetas would have Rick Perry’s head on a spike in front of the Governor’s Mansion the morning following their big Secession party. Think the drug cartels are bad now, just wait until they have access to just what the US leaves behind at Lackland and Dyess AFBs.

    Pay up and leave or STFU. But don’t expect us to bail you out, or continue paying Social Security, Medicare, military, or government payrolls, and don’t expect us to continue those sweetheart deals you’ve negotiated for DoD contractors to operate in your jurisdiction.

  • One wonders whether the South would be more productive economically if it paid more attention to education and economic development, than its injured pride.

    Think about it. The West, Midwest and Northeast would be FAR better off without the albatross of the old Confederacy around our neck. Lincoln, God bless him, was wrong. Let the South go. Texas especially. We need a buffer state between us and Mexico, and Texas is perfect for the job. No need for a war. We won’t let the door hit them on the way out.

  • MaryAlice Noto

    I am from the south and my father called himself a ” Damn Yankee ” the Southern values are not about who should ” Own ” whom or ” I’m better than you because I’m white.” They are about FAMILY a typical Sunday supper in the south is EVERYONE get’s together at Big Mamma’s house, all the women go into the kitchen, the men either out side or the living room. And we crank out a seven out eight course meals. When it’s all done THE WHOLE FAMILY sits at the table together, pray’s and eats. Then THE WHOLE FAMILY helps clean. I am so damn sick of ” northerns ” saying that people from the south are uneducated, racist, inbred hillbillies or rednecks. We are people just like the rest of you. But we still believe that FAMILY is just as important as religion. I have lived in the north and I fought every minuet of every day to get back to my beloved Dixie because the morals and values are better down there when it comes to respect and family. Husbands respect their wives, Wives respect their husbands and mothers and fathers teach their children manors from the time they are born. I have been disrespected so many times in the north that it makes me wonder why the south had not seceded a long time ago. This country has lost and or fallen away from the main predicables that it was founded on. And the south is just trying to hold on to some of the freedoms that we where promised when we broke away from England. For me the southern flag is heritage not hatred. And the U.S. Government is just a joke today. The government is supposed to be for the people by the people. And now it’s just to see how much money you can make. People want to talk about the Constitution like it is the Bible but they fail to mention that the Constitution states Clause 5: Qualifications for office
    “ No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States”. Obama was born in Kenya Africa. And if he where indeed born in Hawaii like he ” claims ” then why won’t he just produce the papers the real papers that he needs to? Also The Union was a creation by the states, not the other way around. The United States is a voluntary association created by the states and states have and had every right to secede. The Declaration of Independence itself provides for secession – “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government…”

    • You were doing fine talking about FAMILY, but you lost it when you started in about morals and values.

      “Husbands respect their wives, Wives respect their husbands and mothers and fathers teach their children manors from the time they are born. ”

      Really? Is that why so many southern Republicans display absolutely NO respect for anyone who doesn’t agree with them 100%? Respect is given to people REGARDLESS of their viewpoint, not just to those who agree with you.

      “And the U.S. Government is just a joke today. The government is supposed to be for the people by the people. And now it’s just to see how much money you can make. ”

      How do explain those in the south making middle-class wages voting Republican? The “money making” agenda is clearly NOT in their best interests, yet they support a party whose goal is to eliminate middle class!

      As for your Constitutional bs – Obama’s mother was/is a U.S. citizen, therefore it DOESN’T MATTER where he was born, he’s still a “naturalized citizen”. Take your “birther” $hit and shove it.

    • I’m from the north, but I’ve been in the south goin’ on 18 years now, and back in school, not a day went by where I wasn’t taunted for being a “Damn Yankee”, hell, one of my worst bullies wouldn’t even refer to my name, just “Yankee”, I’ve been in college now for 3 years, and since then I’m still getting called out on the northern part of my bizarre Southern/Northern/Canadian accent (the section of New York was so far up there it was almost in Canada), I had a guy at the store I worked at over the summer give me the “You ain’t from around these parts are ya?” line just cause he could tell I was a Yankee…. On the contrary, my sister’s best friend was Southern Born, Southern Bred, and she went up to New York and not a single person was giving her any grief over it….

      Hell, half of my family up north is within spittin’ distance of a farm, owns at least one tractor-related object, and can hunt with the best of em.

      One of 2 working radio stations is a country station, and you better believe EVERYONE has that one on.

      So please, tell me again about how the “northerns” are so anti-south and stereotype them all as rednecks?

      Tell me more about this “Southern hospitality”

      Because clearly you stereotype the north a lot more than the north stereotypes you.

      • I’m the opposite case, southern born and bred with a desire to move to central/upstate New York next year. My family went for a vacation to the Adirondacks and Syracuse and we were treated with more politeness and hospitality there than we have ever gotten in Tennessee, which we have lived for 15 of my 22 years alive(the first seven were in rural North Carolina, so much better than here).

        I have little traces of a southern accent at best, I chalk that up to my father being from the Syracuse area. I still get asked if I am from around here because I never say “Ya’ll” or “Fixin’ To” or another expression like that. Its difficult being the odd one out down here in the buckle of the Bible Belt. I’m Pagan and liberal, eat next to nothing that is considered “Southern” cooking, and have my own opinions, not just what the preacher or daddy tells me to think. Even my love of country music, especially the more redneck/southern rock kind, years of living on a small farm, and growing up in a place even more rural than where I am now does nothing to stop the judgement and laundry list of faults that cannot be redeemed.

        Somehow, I’m never good enough for a lot of people down here. And, to be perfectly honest, that is more than okay with me. I relish not being one of them.

  • Jon Bon Jovi

    I moved to Texas about 5, maybe 6 years ago, and let me tell you, this sounds pretty accurate to me. While not all Republicans or Southerners are in-bred racist pigs, it doesn’t mean they aren’t letting these psychos run the asylum.

    My 16 year old brother-in-law is in high school, where he’s supposed to be getting an education. Instead, he gets to watch budget cuts to every facet of the school (except of course, the Athletics department!), and is openly taught that no only does Texas have the RIGHT to secede, but that they really just should. Because that Obammy is just an evil, evil negro.

    Okay, that’s slightly exaggerated. Slightly. Still, the teachers in this state proudly work to indoctrinate young people to the right. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard him talk about how his teacher was telling about how “This is bad because what Obama did is” or “Obama is killing the country” or some other shite. It takes a lot of work to deprogram that crap, let me tell you.

    No, not everyone in the South is cross-burning Klansman. But the more Southerners allow this bullshit to continue on, allow people to glorify the Confederacy and the more they allow talk of secession to spread, the worse things are going to get.

    Don’t forget, the stupid people are the ones who breed the most prolifically. Trust me. I live in the midst of them.

    THEY LIVE AMONG US.

  • Stephen G. Ford

    Go ahead BOYS… SECEDE… and when them “DIRTY MEXICANS” overrun your STUPID INBRED ASSES… well … Don’t come SNIVELLING TO US! You dug your OWN FUCKING HOLE! LAY IN IT!

  • terry jensen

    Let them secede….Should have the first time. The war was “won”, but you can’t shine “s—”. Lost cause….Tired of the racism and bigotry in this country…..They can re establish their lily white “confederacy”, ….Wonder how that’ll work ? BTW, all the northern bigots may move into dixieland as well. My ancestors were late coming Irish, the rest were all Quakers… some of the first abolishionists…

  • While I’m a liberal, I found this article distastefully biased with its broad generalizations and rhetoric about people from the southern US, and even of Republicans.
    Even though I hate the Republican party as an entity, and some of them are extremists, that doesn’t make every member of the group a racist, secessionist, or traitor.
    I really wish authors and speakers who support any point of view would at least make an attempt to leave their biases and generalizations out of their articles. I have a much easier time respecting what someone is saying if they just state the facts and leave their personal quibbles and emotional pleas out of the discussion.

  • Now hold on a damned minute. This article appears to be written by a damned Yankee! In war, the South produces more warriors and hero than the north; as for slaves, many farms in the south before the war of northern aggression were shedding their slaves faster than fleas off a dying dog. The slaves were becoming too expensive to use anymore.

    I am what was known as a Dixie Democrat; I believe in the Constitution and I am a Veteran who has defended it. I do not believe in racism; I believe that all men were created equal and to paint all southerners with such a broad brush is an insult. We have our bigots like the north has their carpetbaggers.

    I will, however, invite the author to Virginia for a typical Southern Sunday Supper and break bread.

    • I’m not the author, but I will take you up on that typical Southern Sunday Supper. I’m not from the South but I really enjoy my visits there.

  • Second Amendment Democrat

    Interesting observations. Of course, the GOP doesn’t care about the South any more than any other part of the country, it’s just that they have tapped the inbred ignorance of the poor whites in the most corrupt part of the nation to garner more votes. (They would, of course, LOVE it if slavery were re-introduced. But they won’t need to, fascism works just as well.

    I’ve said it before, and will continue till they shoot me – these assholes are traitors of the lowest sort, and if Obama were serious, he could stop this at any time, especially as he has not revoked the extraordinary powers Bush illegally added to the Executive arsenal. He could call in the troops to force Congress to do its job and stop trying to overthrow the government.

    Unfortunately, he IS in the pay of the corps and GOP; despite his rhetoric, which sounds good, his actions have shown him to be a tool of the opposition, leaving us no reasonable solutions to this ongoing power grab.

    These are dangerous times. Act now, while you still can, to remove these traitors from office and influence – or prepare for a really nasty civil war. So far, from the so-what responses I keep reading, I’m preparing for war. Nobody seems to give a shit enough to actually fix it, and any serious attempts are absorbed by the Dems, who then wimp out – again.

    Fuck these assholes. Shout them down, vote them out, take them DOWN…

    You think the South will rise again? Wait till you see what a few million pissed-off liberals can do. Remember, crackers, you who are poorly educated, can’t read or write, whose plan involves a pickup truck and assault rifle – you’re facing people who can THINK, something that was bred out of your cornpone-eating asses generations ago. There are laws, but there are no rules. Remember this, because it’s the GOP playbook – no rules.

    • MaryAlice Noto

      I am from the south and my father called himself a ” Damn Yankee ” the Southern values are not about who should ” Own ” whom or ” I’m better than you because I’m white.” They are about FAMILY a typical Sunday supper in the south is EVERYONE get’s together at Big Mamma’s house, all the women go into the kitchen, the men either out side or the living room. And we crank out a seven out eight course meals. When it’s all done THE WHOLE FAMILY sits at the table together, pray’s and eats. Then THE WHOLE FAMILY helps clean. I am so damn sick of ” northerns ” saying that people from the south are uneducated, racist, inbred hillbillies or rednecks. We are people just like the rest of you. But we still believe that FAMILY is just as important as religion. I have lived in the north and I fought every minuet of every day to get back to my beloved Dixie because the morals and values are better down there when it comes to respect and family. Husbands respect their wives, Wives respect their husbands and mothers and fathers teach their children manors from the time they are born. I have been disrespected so many times in the north that it makes me wonder why the south had not seceded a long time ago. This country has lost and or fallen away from the main predicables that it was founded on. And the south is just trying to hold on to some of the freedoms that we where promised when we broke away from England. For me the southern flag is heritage not hatred. And the U.S. Government is just a joke today. The government is supposed to be for the people by the people. And now it’s just to see how much money you can make. People want to talk about the Constitution like it is the Bible but they fail to mention that the Constitution states Clause 5: Qualifications for office
      “ No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States”. Obama was born in Kenya Africa. And if he where indeed born in Hawaii like he ” claims ” then why won’t he just produce the papers the real papers that he needs to? Also The Union was a creation by the states, not the other way around. The United States is a voluntary association created by the states and states have and had every right to secede. The Declaration of Independence itself provides for secession – “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government…”

      • 1. No other president in the history of the U.S. has EVER been forced to produce their birth certificate. They are just trying to make Obama do it because he is black and they are racist.

        2. He produced the same birth certificate other Hawaiians have. That is how they have their documents – it is a certificate of live birth. He made that public.

        3. He never even MET his father who was from Kenya but went to school in HAWAII with Obama’s mother.

        4. You do not wish to be judged by northerners, but you claim northerners do not have good morals, are rude, etc. Judge lest ye be judged.

        5. The Southern flag represents slavery. It was created for a “nation” that glorified owning another person. You cannot deny that southern heritage is a heritage of hatred against blacks. By saying it is historical you are honoring those who owned other people, treated them as less than human, and worked them tirelessly. What a THING to be proud of. You show just how pathetic the mentality of southerners glorifying the Confederacy is.

        • Actually, the “Southern flag” isn’t even the “Southern flag” at all, it’s one particular battle flag, and PART of the actual flag, General Lee himself never fought under that flag, as he was in the Northern Virginia, and that particular flag was for the 6th Kentucky, the actual CSA Flag was a white flag, with the “Southern Cross” in the corner, and a red bar down the side, (originally there was no bar, but they added it when it was noticed that when the flag wasn’t flapping in the wind it would fold over and look like a white flag of surrender)

          Mind you the flag itself is still a symbol of slavery, and anyone who tells you the war wasn’t about slavery is full of crap, (Call it states rights if you want, but don’t forget that the states right that sparked it was the right to own slaves)

          It was more of a “The more you know” post….. (I got an entire lecture in high school from a U.S. history teacher about this, he then followed it up by explaining that you can call the war what ever you want, but it was still essentially about slavery) I also love sharing that big wall of information with everyone…..

  • Second Amendment Democrat

    Interesting observations. Of course, the GOP doesn’t care about the South any more than any other part of the country, it’s just that they have tapped the inbred ignorance of the poor whites in the most corrupt part of the nation to garner more votes. (They would, of course, LOVE it if slavery were re-introduced. But they won’t need to, fascism works just as well.

    I’ve said it before, and will continue till they shoot me – these assholes are traitors of the lowest sort, and if Obama were serious, he could stop this at any time, especially as he has not revoked the extraordinary powers Bush illegally added to the Executive arsenal. He could call in the troops to force Congress to do its job and stop trying to overthrow the government.

    Unfortunately, he IS in the pay of the corps and GOP; despite his rhetoric, which sounds good, his actions have shown him to be a tool of the opposition, leaving us no reasonable solutions to this ongoing power grab.

    These are dangerous times. Act now, while you still can, to remove these traitors from office and influence – or prepare for a really nasty civil war. So far, from the so-what responses I keep reading, I’m preparing for war. Nobody seems to give a shit enough to actually fix it, and any serious attempts are absorbed by the Dems, who then wimp out – again.

    Fuck these assholes. Shout them down, vote them out, take them DOWN…

    You think the South will rise again? Wait till you see what a few million pissed-off liberals can do. Remember, crackers, you who are poorly educated, can’t read or write, whose plan invoves a pickup truck and assault rifle – you’re facing people who can THINK, something that was bred out of your cornpone-eating asses generations ago. There are laws, but there are no rules. Remember this, because it’s the GOP playbook – no rules.

  • Now look…..if you dont all start playing nicely together then I’m afraid we’ll have to annul the Treaty Of Paris, take you back as a devolved region, like Scotland and Wales and have you administered from Brussels. How does that sound….eh Hmmm?.

    • keiron j baker

      no no no, we don’t want them back. fuck it i celebrate the 4th of july as well. let them fight it out i say

    • The best idea I have heard in a long time. I have had it with the whole lot of them! If I could leave this country I would, I’m embarrissed by them all, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

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