Go ahead, Fox. Tell her she deserved it. I DARE you.
In a move that surprised exactly no one, Fox News has launched a shrill protest against the Obama administrations’ decision to have health insurance companies provide counseling for abused women with no co-pays (among several other benefits for women).
While it has always been clear that reason and compassion are not Fox’s strong points, one would hope that battered women would be a subject they might tread lightly around. Then I remembered that, on Fox, a rape/murder is the fault of the victim for dressing sexy.
Whatever was I thinking?
From Family PAC Federal Vice President Sandy Rios on Fox:
“Is the White House out of their mind? Does the West Wing not know what the left wing is doing? We’re $14 trillion in debt and now we’re going to cover birth control, breast pumps, counseling for abuse? Are we going to do pedicures and manicures as well?”
Ah. I see. Getting help for battered women is just as frivolous as pedicures. Perhaps they should just accept their lot in life and get back in the kitchen and cover up that black eye like a good, submissive woman should? I would pay good, hard money to see this parasite walk up to a woman that received the help she needed and tell this survivor that she didn’t deserve it. How do you think that would go?
As for Sandy’s ingenious math, perhaps she can explain how a couple of hundred of dollars worth of birth control cost taxpayers more than years of WIC and Medicare for women that can’t afford an unwanted pregnancy? And before some genius social conservative demands that unmarried women shouldn’t have sex anyway, what about the married women who can’t afford children? Should they be denied birth control as well? They’re married so they can have allll the sex they want, right? What if they don’t want kids? What’s that? Sex should be for making babies only? That sounds suspiciously like a religious argument. You know who else wants to regulate all consensual sex and use religion as the final authority on governmental policy? Muslim extremists and Christian extremists.
I’d hate to think Fox would have anything to do with people like that….but I wouldn’t bet against it.
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How can they claim to be Christian and yet show no compassion for the poor and abused?
It’s easy! THE SAME WAY I CAN CLAIM TO BE A 7,000,412 YEAR OLD MUSHROOM WOMAN from Mongolia with certain knowledge that the earth will end on December 32nd of 2011!
They don’t claim to be Christian. They just spoon-feed hatred to their deluded viewers who think that’s what being a Christian is all about.
I find this amazing for two reasons:
1. That Fox News continues to be this proud of their stupidity. I was battered… maybe they should ask those of us who were about what we need.
2. This model is the spitting image of my daughter. It’s very, VERY, unsettling.
that is utter claptrap. I should know. i once walked in on my old man with my mother up against the wall, hands around her throat. he had us thinking we could change him, when he never would. and he never will. To compare care for battered women to pedicures…that’s sickening
This is more or less the vindictive nature we see from many on the right. It also shows a complete lack of compassion. They always want to assume the worst in people.
the arguement stakeholders are all idiot, especially having an affairs with an under age, a person of 12years old is noted as underage, he or she is still a minor, a case of rape should be viewed seriously,the asshole fuckers re stupid,
Sometimes the only way some people become empathetic is to have the situation happen to them, apparently they can’t figure out how bad it is until it happens to them. As Bohner said, if that is what it takes for Sandi Rios to understand “So Be It”
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM MAIN STREAM MEDIA! MY MOTHER WAS BATTERED UP UNTIL I WAS 12, THEN MY FATHER WAS FORCED TO LEAVE! LET ME TELL YOU – IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE A MANICURE!! I’VE FORGIVEN MY FATHER SINCE THEN BUT I KNOW THAT HAS SCREWED ME UP DURING MY TEEN YEARS! TO THE WRITER YOU CAN NOT COMPARE COMPARE CHRISTIANITY TO MUSLIM! NOT THE SAME. SEX IS GOD’S GIFT TO US BETWEEN A HUSBAND AND A WIFE-NOT ONLY TO REPRODUCE BUT TO CONNECT WITH ONE ANOTHER! WE DO NOT SEE IT AS AN EVIL! GOD HONORS IT!
there is no god you hallucinating
No… actually we CAN compare MUSLIM to CHRISTIANITY… you BOTH think you are “THE ONE TRUE RELIGION” and you BOTH seem to think that you have the RIGHT to tell ME what I CAN and CAN’T do with my SEX LIFE and my REPRODUCTIVE LIFE! BACK THE FUCK OFF and SHUT YOUR LITTLE INBRED FACE! Don’t stick your NOSE where it doesn’t BELONG unless you want it to get CUT THE FUCK OFF! An EXTREMIST PRICK is an EXTREMIST PRICK! And that goes for you “ONE TRUE RELIGION” followers! As far as SEX being a “GIFT FROM GOD”… hmmm… I’ve heard that argument about MARIJUANA too and about EVERY OTHER FUCKING THING on the planet! SEEK COUNSELLING… or just QUIT preaching! You don’t DO IT VERY WELL! YOU ARE A JOKE!
Stephen, I think your argument is quite accurate and I can understand your anger and frustration at such overt ignorance, however, spewing forth angry words take away from anything substantial you may have to say.
I beg to differ. An idiot saying that I cannot cpmpare compare (sic) Muslim and Christian claptrap needs to see the anger, and Stephen was not in the least bit ignorant.
However, i do hope IIZ pursues the the latest news that sperm feel pain, zygotes do not. Please write your representatives TODAY, outlaw male masturbation, and non-procreative sex. I see the tea party jumping all over this!
Islam and Judaism are the same. The only difference between them are the men. However, these men are brothers, sons of Abraham. Christianity is not one religion, but 10,000 to 12,000. Christianity is defined as followers “of christ”. If you really want to know your scripture then read the bible in the original greek and hebrew. Those will give you a completely knew idea. Learn to queation your religion and you see it in a whole new light. This goes especially for the exteemists. I dont know about the Islamists, but Jesus said “knock and adoor will open” not “knock on that door only or we’ll smite you.”
I disagree. Islam and Judaism are NOT the same. Islam came about because a “being” (it was never named by Mohammed) spoke to him over a 2 week period. Christianity came about from the first followers of Jesus, who was Jewish and followed Judaism, as did his first, early followers. Paul and Constantine were the ones who spread it among non-jewish believers. Of course they got rid of the requirement of circumcision and following the Sabbath Day (7th day of the week) as well as not eating pigs, crusacheans and fish bottom dwellers.
Iona, not to put too fine a point on it, but the THREE faiths ARE pretty much one and the same, in a VERY general way. Judaism is the base, root faith of BOTH Christianity AND Islam. Take a comparative religion class… it will truly open your eyes and heart.
I agree with what the author is saying, and I find FOX in general distasteful, BEFORE I read of this latest spewing of ignorance. But … I wish people in the media would stop collectively dumping on people’s faith to make their points. I am a christian, and I realize that even among us, the number of us who actually wait till marriage for sex isn’t all that much different from non – believers. But the bible does expressly say that sex was created as the ultimate pleasure between a married man and a woman. NOT expressly for making babies. And before women make the argument that the bible is sexist, and calls for a wife to obey her husband, in the verse JUST below that, it also commands husbands to love their wives as completely as Christ loved us.
An extremist is an extremist, period. What I would like us to all realize is that none of us, even the Christians – are perfect. That an extremist is a person who takes one point out of context and uses it, outside it’s intended message, to justify something they were going to do anyway. These people do not represent their faith well. Not all Christians presume to be untouchable judge and jury of the world, and not all Muslim’s want to blow up North America. And maybe if we stopped giving those small pockets so much damn attention, we might, for once again, START to get a real, fair picture of the world. ….. Maybe not on FOX …
Matt, I enjoyed reading your response to this article very much. I am personally a non-believer, however I wasn’t always. If there had been more compassionate christians around me then it may have been different, it may not. That is neither here nor there. I just wanted to let you know that I agree with you whole-heartedly! I wish more people (Christian, Muslim, Pagan, Buddhist, etc) were as knowledgeable as you are about what constitutes an extremist. I wish people took the time to fully understand something before they open their mouths. I am glad to see that at least one person has taken the time to educate themself on what the Bible says. Thank you Matt! You are an inspiration to everyone. :)
Yes Matt, the bible also states that illegitimate children should not be allowed in church. Check out Deuteronomy 23:2.
Hatsu, there was no church in the time and day of Deuteronomy. That came several hundred years later.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1091316303001/insurers-to-pay-for-birth-control
FOX did provide equal (and fair/balanced) time to the opposing view. I posted this earlier today but somehow (?) the moderator didn’t seem to allow the truth to shine through. Watch it for yourself. I find how liberals get all gooey in their shorts over FOX NEWS to be highly entertaining.
The point here is not that time was given for the other viewpoint. The point of this article was that Sandy Rios, a Fox News contributor, equated the services with getting manicures and pedicures.
Plus, her overall point didn’t make any sense. Sandy Rios: Well, we’re $14 trillion in debt, so we can’t afford this. Jehmu Greene (the opposition): This will save lots more in avoiding abortions and other social services. Sandy Rios: This won’t help because those people don’t use birth control anyway.
If no women will use the birth control anyway, then what does Sandy Rios care? It won’t cost anything if no one uses it.
The point is, Andrea is that isn’t what the author of the post said. If you want to disagree with Sandy Rios opinion that is fair. But to have the author be categorically wrong in stating that “FOX NEWS has launched a shrill protest” is simply more liberal whinery and mindless FOX blasting. Ya’ll may not like the opposing view, but it 1) wasn’t FOX NEWS’ position, and 2) the segment was well-balanced by the side you support. What do you propose? Completely silencing people who don’t agree with you? Damning FOX for presenting both sides? Not allowing others the right to speak and disagree? In this instance, FOX had excellent balance. Blaming them as the author did for airing a view counter to the one you hold makes my eyes roll in disbelief at how some liberals mindlessly pillow-bite over anything FOX NEWS airs. It’s silly.
A person like you wont’ ever listen to reason and see actual facts, so it is of no use to argue, with you, Doug. Continue drinking the right wing juice.
A person like you won’t ever listen to reason and see actual facts, so it is of no use to argue, with you, David. Continue drinking the left wing juice. After all there is no spending problem the gubmint can just keep printing money and kicking the proverbial financial payment can down the road. That’s what I love about libs and left wing loonies.. They’re great for spending money…other peoples money.
David, never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you up.
Doug, Sandy Rios is a Fox News contributor: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/sandy-rios/bio/#s=r-z They know who she is, what her views are, and they have her on the air to share those views. The other woman is not a Fox News contributor listed on their site. That clip, then, was really TWO Fox News employees and another woman talking about the issue.
So, Doug, it’s fine for Fox News to allow one contributor to give validity to something brutally offensive, sexist, hurtful to women so long as another contributor says the opposite? That’s what you consider journalistic integrity? Do you think “fair and balanced” simply means covering two extremes for entertainment?
Nice try with your “I posted this earlier today but somehow the moderator didn’t seem to all the truth to shine through” comment.
But Really?!?! Why would I NOT approve it earlier and approve it now. Maybe you should try going through all the comments again, before you make baseless accusations.
Whatever one has to say about domestic violence services. Tell this woman she is isn’t worthy of health care services sustained in her attack by her “loving” boyfriend. Some of the comments I am reading are horrible. This is not the stone ages. Women are not the property of men. Period.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/119669181441486/?id=157044787703925&ref=notif¬if_t=group_activity#!/LoriAid
If you investigate a little further (like one Google search further), you’ll see that Sandy Rios, in addition to her position as Family PAC Federal VP, is also a FOX News “contributor” (which means “gets paid by”). She is an employee of FOX News and they are therefore responsible for what she says in her official capacity as contributor.
And Fox news did not give a response from the ‘other side’ that I can tell. They did not HAVE to have this woman on their show, they could have deleted this portion, they could have given someone else a chance to call her out on her ‘opinion’. She is clearly a priviledged woman with NO concept of the situations that MANY women find themselves in. Oh, BTW, including myself, I escaped from an abusive marriage 30 yrs ago, I would not be a free, taxpaying/working, educated or alive woman today had I not had some assistance.
Unplanned pregnancies cost the taxpayers WAY more money than birth control! Women who leave abusive relationships and get counseling to move on are way more productive in society than women who stay with their abusers (think about the woman that stays home from work because of her black eye, the woman that goes to the ER half dead because of the beating she incurred……)
Thank you for catching the ‘contributor’ part! Now it makes sense.
You’re right. Here’s her bio on Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/sandy-rios/bio/#s=r-z
Contributors aren’t official employees. I know. I was one.
I’m sorry, but it wasn’t Fox News that made the comparison. It was the woman from Family PAC. Just because they have her on doesn’t mean that Fox News shares her exact views. Does that mean if CNN has an interview with Hugo Chavez and he declares the U.S. to be Satan that CNN agrees with that view? Come on, folks. Get your liberal heads out of your asses. I know you’re not stupid, don’t act like it.
seriously put down the crackpipe and READ the article, stop blaming “liberals” for yuour ineptitude to properly understand facts
patrice, the issue isnt whether a Fox head said it or not; the issue is whether the Fox head challenged it or let it stay out there. I see nothing that suggests the latter. do you?
patrice, the issue isnt whether a Fox head said it or not; the issue is whether the Fox head challenged it or let it stay out there. I see nothing that suggests the latter. do you? 7
Actually, FOX NEWS and CNN should be responsible for all their broadcasts.
From the Fox News website: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/sandy-rios/bio/#s=r-z
And Fox news did not give a response from the ‘other side’ that I can tell. They did not HAVE to have this woman on their show, they could have deleted this portion, they could have given someone else a chance to call her out on her ‘opinion’. She is clearly a priviledged woman with NO concept of the situations that MANY women find themselves in. Oh, BTW, including myself, I escaped from an abusive marriage 30 yrs ago, I would not be a free, taxpaying/working, educated or alive woman today had I not had some assistance.
Unplanned pregnancies cost the taxpayers WAY more money than birth control! Women who leave abusive relationships and get counseling to move on are way more productive in society than women who stay with their abusers (think about the woman that stays home from work because of her black eye, the woman that goes to the ER half dead because of the beating she incurred……)
Well Thank GOD you called out FOX NEWS for something a guest said! How brave of you to counter one woman’s argument by couching it under a headline against Fox! We should take you so seriously!
Idiot.
I would have to disagree..FOX NEWS should be responsibly for broadcasting anything and everything on their station/channel. I guess nobody taught you the concept of responsibilities. It is okay, it is never too late to learn.
I guess no one ever told you about the first amendment. When news stations start being the arbiter of what their audience should and should not be exposed to, out of some sense of “responsibility” that is the end of our freedom to make up our own minds and the beginning of some kind of Orwellian Ministry of “Truth”.
The author of this piece has pulled so many logical fallacies out of his ass here that I don’t even have time to go through them line by line.
Oh, First Amendment, First Amendment. Stop banging on about your damned amendments.
Not a guest. From the Fox News website:http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/sandy-rios/bio/#s=r-z
What’s your point? Al Sharpton is a paid contributor too. Hardly a right wing nut-job. It’s okay, it’s never too late to learn.
Please tell me where you see Al Sharpton’s name on this list: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/#s=r-z
And he’s certainly not someone Fox News is supporting here, so I’m not sure what your point was. http://youtu.be/uSIestlaGxw
The Murdoch defense! Original!
I think that it’s ridiculous to compare them in such a way as Fox did, however I would like to state that there needs to be more recognition of domestic abuse targetting males. I’m not saying this in an effort to diminish the need of help for females, however in this day and age it is often impossible as a male to seek help, especially since it would make you appear to be less of a man.
Very well spoken and a valid point.
I can’t believe anyone with a brain the size of a pea (99.999% of democrats) believe a word on this garbage site.
Everyone on this site should be jailed for writing such a pile of BS. Get a life if you have the brains to do it.
I think you could just call them religious extremists, without labeling Christians and Muslims………..maybe just because you don’t need to incite anymore people to kill Christians and Muslims? I’m not into organized religion, but I also have nothing against people practicing what they believe as long as they also are leaving others to live their own beliefs. Extremists are everywhere and in every religion, but the World seems out to get the Christians and Muslims. Wonder why?
People focus on christian and muslim extremists because they’re the ones who try to pervade and own cultures, the ones that think of themselves as excluding every other belief system. As an american I often encounter the kind of scum that wishes we lived in a theocracy like the saudis. Not a lot of radical hindus go blowing up buildings in my backyard, or showing me absolute disrespect for not adhering to their system of rules. Christians and muslims do. Even the other monotheists, the jews, keep to themselves- no hassid has tried to recruit me. They won’t shame me for not following their rules- they have no interest in a theocratic empire. Christians and muslim believe that the world belongs to them, though, that they are the people of god to whom belongs the kingdom of earth. This is not a healthy world view.
Hassids may not get in your face about it, but they believe you’ll be damned when you die just as much as the Christians and Muslims do — the difference is that Christians and Muslims feel a responsibility to talk to you about it so you can make an informed choice. Not to say that proselytism is okay, at all, but the motivation is an important question that has to be raised in the context as well.
Jews, including Hassidic Jews, do not believe that you are going to be damned if you are not Jewish.
Actually, I would have to strongly disagree with your posit that Christians and Muslims interpret their religions in this way; some might; but lumping them all into one pile lessons the hard work that good people and interfaith activists on both sides do every day.
The problem lies not with religion itself; Jews, Christians and Muslims belong to the same Abrahamic line–but with people using religion as a pretext for gaining land, money and power. It’s a game of smoke and mirrors, and not a reflection of all people from that faith group, or of the faith.
In fact, at least in the Islamic religion, people and groups who use religion to their benefit and not for the worship of God are committing acts of disbelief; and while they engage in that behavior, they are not considered Muslims.
People from all walks of life try to insert their beliefs into the culture. From my point of view; Agressive atheism tries to take over cultures just as much as Christianity and Islam, in this day and age.
I hope that Sandy Rios becomes an abuse victim someday so she can see just how important counseling is. Emotional trauma, depression, and other mental effects of abuse are not easy to overcome on your own, and I would recommend counseling to anyone who has gone through that.
That is a disgusting thing to wish on someone, I don’t care who they are.
This is as big a pile of BS as the rest of your lies.
I have to agree. I should know, speak from personal experience. As terrible and as ignorant, as it is to compare counseling for abuse victims to a pedicure. I would never wish that on anyone.
well said, walk a mile in someones shoes seems to fit.
Who on Fox made the statement? In what context? Context is important, and I’d like to hear the unidentified troglodyte’s statement in his own words. I’d really appreciate it if you would link to video of the incriminating remarks. Thanks!
Oops! Good point! I could have sworn I had a link in there!
Link added.
Thanks for asking for the link. I’d have gone searching for it myself.
Where’s the outrage that this isn’t gender neutral legislation? Oh because if you believe the DV industry only women get battered, never mind the reality of the DOJ’s own statistics.
Agreed. As a man who was pinned down and raped by my ex-wife, nobody takes me seriously and I have been unable to find and receive the therapy I need. Being tense and anxious around people, having trust issues, and the occasional flashback are *not* fun.
OH MAH GAWD WON’T ANYONE THINK OF TEH POOR MENZ???!?!?
Shut the hell up. This isn’t about you and your persecution complexes.
You’re an asshole. Male rape and male abuse is very real and very traumatic and shame on you for belittling it, you fuckhead. It isn’t a persecution complex, it’s real.
Funny, I recall the same type of statements being made about female victims should be ignored…
BTH – it would not take much to make such a policy gender neutral.. I think the case of ‘if someone needs rape counciling, they are taken care of’ would be a pretty positive thing.
Really kid? Get a job. See the world. Male rape is real. And apparently such a problem they briefed us at FT Benning.
You’re embarrassing liberals that can debate.
I still argue that if you believe tax dollars should fund birth control, then you should pay for my cab fare home from the bar, my bike helmet, my knee and elbow pads for paintball.
They are all great activities with inherent risks. The participants and only the participants should pay for the protection. Not tax dollars.
Well… we know who the next candidate is for MALE RAPE now don’t we! PANIC MAN there is a SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL for you… and you will be CHAINED DOWN and BEATEN SENSELESS and a BURNING RECTAL PROBE will be INSERTED for HOURS AT A TIME! There are people that say this is a “HORRIBLE THING” to wish on another human being… but you know what? by SPEWING those 10 SICKENING WORDS… you have PROVEN BEYOND DOUBT that you are NOT HUMAN! You need to DIE of RECTAL CANCER! But not before going through about 10 years of SEARING AGONY! DOUCHEBAG!
Panic Man… you NEED to be ANALLY RAPED by a FLAMING DILDO every NIGHT for the rest of your MISERABLE FUCKING EXISTENCE! (Those that say “THAT is a HORRIBLE THING to wish on another human being!” THAT THING proved BEYOND A DOUBT that it is NOT HUMAN! PANIC MAN… I hope you DIE of RECTAL CANCER after suffering for at LEAST 10 years you little DOUCHEBAG!
I hope you get the help you need. I’m very sorry this happened to you.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. Hopefully you will get the help you need.
I agree that more attention needs to be paid towards abuse towards men. However, I feel it should be pointed out that this is a report specifically about Women’s Health and you can’t have gender neutral medical declarations because men and women are physically different and have different needs. So, as much as I agree with you about male rape and abuse, it would be out of place in this specific report.
Where does the legislation say that men who are victims of domestic abuse shall be denied services? Get a clue and stop trying to derail the discussion.
Birth control is a luxury, not a necessity. Should the government spend our money on my cab fare home from the bar? I don’t want a dui, and she doesn’t want a child. We should be individually responsible for our choices and the funding of the necessary protection.
As far as birth control being cheaper than 18 years of wic, that is mathematically factual and just as easy to solve. Get rid of wic, and enforce child support laws. Oh i’m evil for suggesting that? Perhaps a little forethought and buying condoms or the pill would have eliminated the surprised parents’ need for wic.
I’ve bought breast pumps. Again a nominal individual expense for one’s child.
and ZCT, you seem to think that marriage shouldn’t be limited? One should be free to marry whomever they want? So you feel that Warren Jeff should be allowed to marry 12 years olds? Wait you don’t? She had her parents’ permission. What’s the problem? You need to stop persecutting him with your christan values. They were born this way. You need to just accept their lifestyle. We need to have a federal judge make it legal.
If you can’t tell, i was going overboard to make a point. Subsitute Jeff and the 12 year olds with Anal sex rights and somehow those arguements aren’t so crazy.
Shut your privileged male word-hole.
Matt,
Unfortunately, it’s not always the woman’s choice to have sex, but it’s always the woman who has to deal with the consequences. Many men believe that being married gives them the right to demand… forcibly, if necessary… that their wife give them sex. For women in those circumstances, it’s easier to hide taking birth control than it is to get the husband not to have sex, or get him to use a condom.
Even in cases where condoms are used, the failure rate for condoms is much higher than for hormonal birth control.
I doubt you’ll believe anything I’ve written, though, because I’m just a voice on the internets.
You are implying that it is better for an abused woman to secretly take birth control than to get out of the abusive relationship? Your argument sounds almost sexist, although I understand it was not meant that way; but a woman can leave a marriage like that. You think the more logical solution would be for her to stay, as long as the federal government can supply her with free birth control? Yeah, the Fed solves all problems.
“Unfortunately, it’s not always the woman’s choice to have sex”
That’s called rape. It’s a crime. Also rape is a crime even if you’re married.
For women in those circumstance, get the hell out!
Now the 99.99% of the time people have sex and it isn’t rape, pay for your own protection.
And Sharon go back and read “I was going overboard to make a point”. The Anal sex rights use the exact same arguments.
you’re a sick bastard
Birth control a luxury? so are prostate exams, and viagra. Asshole. Why does anyone think it’s ok for private health insurance company’s to take our money without giving almost nothing in return. You are not paying for these services, asshole, I’m paying for it through my sky high insurance premiums. At least I get something for my money. But you obviously are too big of a bigotted asshole to even dare see someone else’s point of view.
Amy, the old form versus function argument. Given the subject and response, I think Justin use quite a bit of constraint in his article. I would not be so constrained for polite.
I don’t usually weigh in on political issues because I find the arguments and segregation between Right and Left to be very unproductive. Both sides spend so much time attacking each other and blustering about being correct, nothing is actually accomplished. I wish there was a way to take politics out of government completely. We are a country of diverse people and we aren’t doing so hot right now. We need effectiveness not schoolyard squabbles. Those Neanderthals over at Fox News will always find something to harp on, why lend more press to their small mindedness?
As for the plan to have insurance companies take a smaller bite out of the people who are struggling – be they new families, sexually active people who want to be responsible or people struggling to cope with a traumatic past – I’m all for it. Health Insurance companies are nothing but big businesses more concerned with the bottom line than the health of their fellow man. Let them cut back to supplying their employees with generic sticky notes instead of Post-it’s and help a few people in need.
BS alert. Someone named Sandy Rios was a guest on some Fox News show and said this. That doesn’t mean its endorsed by anyone at Fox News.
Really, this is beyond a stretch, its an outright smear.
Ah, then you have the video where the host says “That’s ridiculous! How could you say such a thing?!”
No? Shocking…
Clearly your a fucking retard. Where’s the outrage from other news outlets we are in 2 more wars? Seriously your logic is beyond flawed. I’m all for throwing pies at fox news for the shit they actually do. But they didn’t come out and say this. This article is disingenuous at best.
Ironically, people who have mental retardation are disproportionately sexually abused and are part of the reasoning behind offering free birth control.
Maybe Fox didnt express outrage at the comment because they’re more interested in hacking the phones of rape victims. Fox=right wing sleaze bags
wel said , and dont forget “grave robbers”, watching the poop hit the fan at FOX is the best thing EVER!!
Why should they have to? They’re a podium not a parent. I can’t stand when hosts chide guests. Just let them dig their own hole and let the viewers decide. You seem to be able to make up your mind about her statement without FOXnews telling you how to think. You’re a free man with his own mind. Do you believe that some humans are superior to others and the sheep should have their news filtered through the proper authorities?
She’s not a guest. From the Fox News website:http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/sandy-rios/bio/#s=r-z
The problem, Amy, isn’t being snide, sneering, or immature. Fox has the corner on that market. And, really what’s the problem with a little well turned sarcasm? Works for me. One or a zillion articles written in this style will not result in a rise in hate or frustration. More claptrap from Fox and its ilk does seem to manage that, though.
Perhaps they were speaking of substance abuse… I know I am getting tired of my taxes and health insurance going up because of substance abuse….. and the counsling that they get, only to end up using again and again. Just saying, perhaps they meant a different kind of abuse, their is more than one kind.
Posting irrelevant crap to try and make your I’ve-got-mine-so-get-bent point.
Shut the hell up.
I’ve never commented before, but you’re an IDIOT. Out of the 50 BILLION we spend on the war on drugs every year TWO PERCENT goes towards rehabilitation services. The rest of the money is spent on prosecution and law enforcement. In California several years ago they started sending petty drug offenders to treatment instead of jail. Guess what? They are saving billions every year by doing that. The rate of people re-offending is dropping.
If you think we actually spend money on substance abuse counseling and rehabs you’re a total moron. I work in mental health (for teenage boys, not addicts. Although some are) and all we are getting is cuts and have been for years. Boys are going home to drug addicted parents instead of being in placement, which they need. THAT’S why the drug problem is out of control in this country. The only part of the equation getting funding is law enforcement. So, we are using all our resources to catch them, but nothing at all to try and fix the situation. Smart.
I think this is a load of shhhhh…. If Obama wants to help battered woman then he should help them. How in the world does this compare to manicures?! Such a republican article! Oh that’s right, their trying to bury him since the 2012 elections are coming, go figure!
Wait– I’m a little confused here: the White House’s move doesn’t require the GOVERNMENT to pay for women’s birth control, battered women counseling, and the like, does it? I thought it just required insurers to waive the co-pay.
Should car insurers charge a big co-pay (deductible) on your comprehensive coverage to have your windshield repaired or not? How is this fundamentally different?
The main difference is that this doesn’t only apply to the “Cadillac” or comprehensive health insurance policies. It applies even to the lower basic health insurance policies that only really kick in if there’s a huge medical bill.
But yes, it’s the insurance company that’s paying for it, not the government. (Although, instead of forcing a company to pay for it, maybe the states should offer some of these services at public health.)
The headline is a lie. FOX News did no comparison. From your article….”From Family PAC Federal Vice President Sandy Rios on Fox:”
Sandy Rios committed the supposed sin, not FOX.
She’s been a Fox New’s contributor for over a year. From the Fox News website:http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/personalities/sandy-rios/bio/#s=r-z
If you want to control a population you must control these things: Their food supply and their breeding rights. Rethuglicans are working on both.
Thugs who want babies to live and the government to get out of people’s personal lives. How EVIL!
Faux Noise…The anti-women network!!!
there’s nothing wrong with being snide towards people who are cleary wrong and hateful. Suggesting birth control and abuse counseling is equal to manicures is an ignorant way to try to dinegrate the seriousness of real issues. Those kinds of inane statements deserve to be ridiculed.
Besides sometimes things are pretty black and white, especially when talking about finances. If we’re really worried about getting the biggest bang for our buck, do we pay for birth control or pay for caring for unwanted, unplanned children? The answer is clear to pay for the birth control, unless of course we’re planning on just letting those children starve to death.
First, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that FOX News would air Sandy Rios’ appallingly thoughtless comment—it’s their main ratings hook. Nor should a response like Amy’s post come as news; some women don’t find it outrageous that insurance companies want to maximize profit margins by excluding birth control and counselling for battered women from their coverage packages. After thirty-plus years working in the medical-insurance field, I think President Obama’s new directives are EXCELLENT—and long, long overdue.
screw you fox my mom was verbally and physically abused for 9 years while i had to watch it all. no woman deserves that and it can really fuck a person up not just physically but emotionally.
My ex-wife was verbally and physically abusive towards me and my step son, she no longer has custody of him FYI. Thank you for supporting gender discrimination.
BAW BAW BAAAWWWW WHAT ABOUT TEH MENZ?!?!?
Shut your privilege hole, liar.
A troll that is either a woman or some fat dude with chessies and an orange little wing-dang-doodle spanking it to the replies your trolling accomplishes. Why do 240 lb women think they can stick your head through a wall because their sister is going out with her ex (that she was cheating on me with) and somehow its all my (her husbands) fault.
you seriously need to shut the fuck up. You make no contribution other than needlessly cursing at others because you seem to think (I guess) that since men are all pigs, we are privledged and incapable of suffering sexual abuse at the hands of women. you’re a bigot and a loudmouth with the social skills and debating skills of a Neanderthal and you need to go live in a nice place like Johannesburg, South Africa for a while to open your blind, first world problems American eyes to the world. People like you are why there is so little progress in the world.
You need to shut the fuck up you attention seeking whore. This isn’t about you, you piece of crap, this is about men and their vile, despicable aggressive nature that hurts and oppresses half of population. People like you make real men regarded as evil. As a man myself, I never had a woman anywhere near abusing me. So no, unless you are a sissy, a woman cannot abuse you. On the other hand men can abuse women, cause we are physically stronger. Shut your facehole, you sissy prick, before I shut it for you.
Are you people REALLY that dumb?
If you think that no man is the victim of Domestic Violence then you are stupid. Do you think that gay couples have a 0% rate of Domestic Violence?
Think before you speak, idiots.
^ Don’t listen to Amy. She’s probably a cunt anyway.
She should probably step away from the computer, and back in front of the stove…
Feel free to step into the oven as I turn it up to Broil…
There’s only one good reason for a woman to be in the kitchen, its where all the knives are, garbage disposal as well, and remember what angry wives use against ungrateful husbands :D
I would double check my food if I were you…
The hilarity of your comment takes a human form on Bill O’ Reilly.
Don’t act so surprised, this is the face of the new Tea Bag enriched Republicans. You’ll hear them witter on about debt, deficit, America being broke, big government doesn’t work, welfare etc. But when it comes down to their pet projects, all their other arguments fly out of the nearest window.
Despite our financial situation, they are happy to pump money into the stupidly large military budget. They’ll spend money fighting gay rights, the war on drugs, evil unions (demanding fair pay and workers rights, those bastards), Christian values, Intelligent Design, sex education that is really just abstinence education (ie completely ineffective and inexcusable), virginity pledges, discrediting the science behind climate change, abortion, women’s rights, and so on and so forth.
From who you can marry, to the plants you can grow in your back yard, to the leaves you can roll up and smoke, to how your child learns science (and what they are allowed to learn), their vision of government will interfere, bully, intimidate, and use their considerable clout to hammer home their conservative values with a vengeance. But if the cause is considered liberal, such as getting an education, having access to health care, counseling, care of abuse or rape victims, workers rights, patients rights, welfare, disability, social security, etc. then suddenly government is big, evil, expensive and bad and needs to be stopped at all cost.
Republicans have found their new 9/11. Back in the old days they could excuse any horrible policy decision because we were at war, or because of terrorists, or because we live in a post 9/11 world. These days the new excuse for their horrible, hateful, shameful, piss on the poor and/or needy, ideas is that we are broke. Far too poor as a nation to address anything they don’t like, but rich enough to enforce just about every stupid idea they have.
Well said. Thank you for the voice of reason.
I agree with Lynn. I am saving this to quote that last paragraph on my FB page. Thanks ZCT!
You have some valid points, and topics worth discussing. The problem is, this article sounds like it was written by a sarcastic 13 year old. Very snide, sneering and reaking of aggrevated immaturity. The only purpose of it seems to be to breed more hate and frustration. How is that going to help?
There is absolutely nothing worthy of discussing with that argument, Amy. Only a fool would think paying for any of the things listed is a bad thing. Preventative measures are more expensive than paying for the aftermath? No. The article pointed out facts.
How can anyone with a brain NOT get sarcastic with regard to this topic? “Some valid points?” “Topics worth discussing?” Did you have a brain transplant and forgo the second step, or are you a GOP male? Either way, you’re clealy an idiot.
Amy: Waahhh. Go back to your Cosmo rag.
And Fox’s comparisons sound like those of a competent, respectable, international news agency? No they sound like a misogynistic, jerk at a bar.