Addicting Info posted an article several months ago regarding Ron Paul and his ties to white supremacy, and we were barraged with pleas and “stories” to win us over. In honor of Ron Paul’s obsessive fans we’re publishing the following article, showing his history of discrimination.
Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)
As anyone with a blog, YouTube account, MySpace page, or web site knows Ron Paul supporters are everywhere! The internet is filled with them. The frightening thing that I have witnessed is that many liberal voters are giving some credence to Ron Paul’s campaign and message. He somehow comes across as different or better than the run of the mill conservatives filling the Republican ticket.
I do not support Ron Paul at all, and I find his Congressional record and policies to be, at times, even scarier than his counterparts. The only thing that I have found to agree with him on is the fact that he does not support the war in Iraq. After extensive research I have compiled a list of 10 reasons NOT to vote for Ron Paul!
1. Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities. Ron Paul has sponsored legislation that would repeal affirmative action, keep the IRS from investigating private schools who may have used race as a factor in denying entrance, thus losing their tax exempt status, would limit the scope of Brown versus Board of Education, and would deny citizenship for those born in the US if their parents are not citizens. Here are links to these bills: H.R.3863, H.R.5909, H.J.RES.46, and H.J.RES.42.
2. Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights.Ron Paul makes it very clear that one of his aims is to repeal Roe v. Wade. He has also co sponsored 4 separate bills to “To provide that human life shall be deemed to exist from conception.” This, of course, goes against current medical and scientific information as well as our existing laws and precedents. Please see these links: H.R.2597 and H.R.392
3. Ron Paul would be disastrous for the working class. He supports abolishing the Federal minimum wage, has twice introduced legislation to repeal OSHA, or the Occupational Safety and Health Act and would deal devastating blows to Social Security including repealing the act that makes it mandatory for employees of nonprofits, to make “coverage completely optional for both present and future workers”, and would “freeze benefit levels”. He has also twice sponsored legislation seeking to repeal the Davis-Bacon Act and the Copeland Act which among other things provide that contractors for the federal government must provide the prevailing wage and prohibits corporate “kick backs.” Here are the related legislative links: H.R.2030, H.R.4604, H.R.736, and H.R.2720
4. Ron Paul’s tax plan is unfair to lower earners and would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes.He has repeatedly submitted amendments to the tax code that would get rid of the estate and gift taxes, tax all earners at 10%, disallow income tax credits to individuals who are not corporations, repeal the elderly tax credit, child care credit, earned income credit, and other common credits for working class citizens. Please see this link for more information: H.R.05484 Summary
5. Ron Paul’s policies would cause irreparable damage to our already strained environment. Among other travesties he supports off shore drilling, building more oil refineries, mining on federal lands, no taxes on the production of fuel, and would stop conservation efforts that could be a “Federal obstacle” to building and maintaining refineries. He has also sought to amend the Clean Air Act, repeal the Soil and Water Conservation Act of 1977, and to amend the Federal Water Pollution Control Act to “restrict the jurisdiction of the United States over the discharge of dredged or fill material to discharges into waters”. To see for yourself the possible extent of the damage to the environment that would happen under a Paul administration please follow these links: H.R.2504, H.R.7079, H.R.7245, H.R.2415, H.R.393, H.R.4639, H.R.5293, and H.R.6936
6. A Ron Paul administration would continue to proliferate the negative image of the US among other nations. Ron Paul supports withdrawing the US from the UN, when that has not happened he has fought to at least have the US withdrawn from the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization. He has introduced legislation to keep the US from giving any funds to the UN. He also submitted that the US funds should not be used in any UN peacekeeping mission or any UN program at all. He has sponsored a bill calling for us to “terminate all participation by the United States in the United Nations, and to remove all privileges, exemptions, and immunities of the United Nations.”Ron Paul twice supported stopping the destruction of intercontinental ballistic missile silos in the United States. He also would continue with Bush’s plan of ignoring international laws by maintaining an insistence that the International Criminal Court does not apply to the US, despite President Clinton’s signature on the original treaty. The International Criminal Court is used for, among other things, prosecution of war crimes. Please see the following links: H.R.3891, H.AMDT.191, H.AMDT.190, H.R.3769, H.R.1665, H.CON.RES.23, and H.R.1154
7. Ron Paul discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation and would not provide equal rights and protections to glbt citizens. This is an issue that Paul sort of dances around. He has been praised for stating that the federal government should not regulate who a person marries. This has been construed by some to mean that he is somewhat open to the idea of same sex marriage, he is not. Paul was an original co sponsor of the Marriage Protection Act in the House in 2004. Among other things this discriminatory piece of legislation placed a prohibition on the recognition of a same sex marriage across state borders. He said in 2004 that if he was in the Texas legislature he would not allow judges to come up with “new definitions” of marriage. Paul is a very religious conservative and though he is careful with his words his record shows that he is not a supporter of same sex marriage. In 1980 he introduced a particularly bigoted bill entitled “A bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955 A direct quote from the legislation “Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.” shows that he is unequivocally opposed to lifestyles other than heterosexual.
8. Ron Paul has an unnatural obsession with guns. One of Paul’s loudest gripes is that the second amendment of the constitution is being eroded. In fact, he believes that September 11 would not have happened if that wasn’t true. He advocates for there to be no restrictions on personal ownership of semi-automatic weaponry or large capacity ammunition feeding devices, would repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act (because we all know our schools are just missing more guns), wants guns to be allowed in our National Parks, and repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968. Now, I’m pretty damn certain that when the Constitution was written our founding fathers never intended for people to be walking around the streets with AK47′s and “large capacity ammunition feeding devices.” (That just sounds scary.) Throughout the years our Constitution has been amended and is indeed a living document needing changes to stay relevant in our society. Paul has no problem changing the Constitution when it fits his needs, such as no longer allowing those born in the US to be citizens if their parents are not. On the gun issue though he is no holds barred. I know he’s from Texas but really, common sense tells us that the amendments he is seeking to repeal have their place. In fact, the gun control act was put into place after the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Robert Kennedy. Please view the following links: H.R.2424, H.R.1897, H.R.1096, H.R.407, H.R.1147, and H.R.3892.
9. Ron Paul would butcher our already sad educational system. The fact is that Ron Paul wants to privatize everything and that includes education. Where we run into problems is that it has been shown (think our current health care system) that this doesn’t work so well in practice. Ron Paul has introduced legislation that would keep the Federal Government “from planning, developing, implementing, or administering any national teacher test or method of certification and from withholding funds from States or local educational agencies that fail to adopt a specific method of teacher certification.” In a separate piece of legislation he seeks to “prohibit the payment of Federal Education assistance in States which require the licensing or certification of private schools or private school teachers.” So basically the federal government can’t regulate teaching credentials and if states opt to require them for private schools they get no aid. That sounds like a marvelous idea teachers with no certification teaching in private schools that are allowed to discriminate on the basis of race. He is certainly moving forward with these proposals!Remember his “bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955? Guess what? He basically advocates for segregation in schools once again. It “Forbids any court of the United States from requiring the attendance at a particular school of any student because of race, color, creed, or sex.” Without thinking about this statement it doesn’t sound bad at all. But remember, when desegregating schools that this is done by having children go to different schools, often after a court decision as in Brown Vs. Board of Education. If this were a bill that passed, schools would no longer be compelled to comply and the schools would go back to segregation based on their locations. Ron Paul is really starting to look like a pretty bigoted guy don’t you think?
10. Ron Paul is opposed to the separation of church and state. This reason is probably behind every other thing that I disagree with in regards to Paul’s positions. Ron Paul is among those who believes that there is a war on religion, he stated “Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view.” (( Koyaanisqatsi Blog: Wrong Paul Why I Do Not Want Ron Paul to be My President )) Though he talks a good talk, at times, Ron Paul can’t get away from his far right, conservative views. He would support “alternative views” to evolution taught in public schools (i.e. Intelligent Design.) We’ve already taken a look at his “bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955Besides hating the gays he takes a very religious stance on many other things. He is attempting to force his beliefs on the rest of America, exactly what he would do as president.
So there you have it, my 10 reasons not to vote for Ron Paul. Please take the time to thoroughly review the records of the people running for office so you know where they really stand. Ron Paul has good rhetoric and he opposes the war but he’s not a good man in the human rights sense of the phrase. He is pretty much like every other Republican but more insidious. Here is a video that you should watch after reading this article. Really listen to what he says and how he says it. Watch out for the sneaky ones and RESEARCH! ((Orcinus: Ron Paul’s Record in Congress ))
Ron Paul is still a racist, and nobody can argue that. They can try, but the fact that the guy let things be written in his name, then claimed them to be “misunderstood” and “taken out of context” means he’s a racist. Sure, he later denied it and said that he didn’t do it at all, but the fact is, he admitted to writing them at one point, simply saying people didn’t understand what he meant.
A racist, through and through. Fuck him.
He is no racist. Quit acting like you understand history or Ron’s words because it is obvious you do not have a high IQ.
Know your history because Abraham Lincoln destroyed the 10th Amendment with the 14th and enslaved the states. The civil rights act was forced acceptance versus the release and freedom African-brits received. No federal mandate should have been past. Freedom of slaves and restoration of the union would have happened in time.
wow. so it would have been better to allow freedom of slaves to happen over time? what about the states that wanted to remain slave states? do you honestly believe they would have just decided one day to free their slaves?
Ron Paul a racist? On the contrary, Paul’s philosophy is that no “group” should be given special privileges. He is and has always been defender of individual rights. When we pass laws that promote group rights, we are actually practicing discrimination. Ssj12 has what I call cyber courage. He feels he can defame other people just because he has the safety of sitting behind a computer screen somewhere far away. Calling someone a racist is a terrible insult, and being an ardent supporter of a great statesman like Ron Paul, I take it personally. You better have your facts right before you say something as heinous as that. We’ll wait for your apology Mr. Cyber Courage.
You are apparently highly illiterate as I was DEFENDING RON PAUL.
i believe he was referring to the comment above yours
Andy was referring to ssj12 calling Lincoln a racist.
And then he said that Mr.J also had this ” cyber courage”
He is not a racist, you however are a moron
Ok, I realise not everyone is gonna watch the debates and learn everyones policies, but I just wanna clear up the Prophets policies, as the media are trying very hard to distort them to the uneducated
Myth 1: ISOLATIONIST Foreign Policy: FALSE. Dr Paul has proposed a NON-INTERVENTIONIST POLICY . Basically he wants to trade and be amiable with other nations – BUT NOT police and nation build. Makes perfect sense.
Myth 2: LEGALISING ALL NARCOTICS: FALSE. He says he wants to only end the failed WAR ON DRUGS, as its costing billions and is not working. He will leave it up to the states to decide legality of drugs. Perfect sense again
Myth 2: He is ANTI-ABORTION: FALSE. He only says in his personal/professional opinion that he doesn’t believe in it, which is natural as he is a OB/GYN. He doesn’t believe in interfering in people’s lives in that way.
Those are the most pertinent myths I have seen , I hope this makes people more up to date with Ron Paul
The only candidate who has NEVER CHANGED in his 30 years of being shunned in politics. Somebody has to stand for something : /
Ron Paul 2012
Well, I won’t argue with you because you start this out on such a note as to discredit yourself. Ron Paul is NOT a prophet! He is NOT a religious figure, nor is he some kind of savior. Now, having called him “the Prophet” (with a Capital “P”, no less!), puts you right up there with Osama Bin Laden’s followers and, to be honest, as a devout Christian, it also labels you as a heretic. When someone puts demagogue status to a person, they are beyond reason. YOU are why Ron Paul cannot win. People of this far extremism cannot be allowed to run our country…
So blind you cant see the forest through the trees…
Who would you rather side with? The white knight or the dark forces?
I believe he is alluding to the article written about Ron Paul that is entitled “The Profit”, which outlines the ways that Paul predicted the housing meltdown years before it happened.
Great points Tim. Ron Paul is the Jefferson of our time.
Thank you, though I wouldn’t make THAT comparison.
If you mean that he is into owning slaves and pro-creating with them while he blathers on about the inalienable rights of rich property owning white men… Yes he is rather a lot like the Jefferson of our times. All your hero’s are flawed at that point though. The founding fathers were only forward thinking for their time and place. We could do a lot better now. Ron Paul will not do a lot better he will do a lot like they would have. Which is fine and all, but I find it to be a little dated as far as the logic thing goes. Reverting back to the plan originally drawn up by the first 13 colonies/states is not what we need to do. We need to step into the future already. Paul won’t take us there. If Jefferson were alive right now, he wouldn’t take us their either. It’s time to embrace the future people. It’s been almost 240 years already. Stop dragging your feet.
Well written and researched.
I do not agree with much of Ron Paul because he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Much of his agenda is very backward thinking.
Any person of intelligence who stands up and denies the Theory of Evolution lacks a certain amount of intelligence. I do wonder what he thinks of the Theory of Gravity or does he have a flying carpet closeted away?
How about Nuclear Theory? Will he dump this out with the bathwater, too?
1) “Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities”
Ron Paul does not value rights for groups, he values rights of individuals. To state or imply he does not value rights of “minorities” when he has railed against the drug war since it began as unfairly targeting the poor and minorities, and against the death penalty as unfairly targeting the poor and minorities is just ridiculous.
2) “Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights”
Ron Paul as the Executive has no power to overturn a Judicial decision so such a statement is completely false because he has no power to do so
3) “Ron Paul would be disastrous for the working class”
He believes in personal property rights which means he believes in the right to sue companies that pollute our property. All these laws are written by the very people that are polluting so to believe they help is a fallacy.
4) “Ron Paul’s tax plan is unfair to lower earners and would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes”
I don’t really know how everyone having the same tax while stopping the wars which will lower our expenditures thus having no need for higher taxes is unfair, but hey to each their own
5) “Ron Paul’s policies would cause irreparable damage to our already strained environment.”
Again, Cap and Trade is written by the polluters to believe it will help, is a fallacy
6) “A Ron Paul administration would continue to proliferate the negative image of the US among other nations”
LMAO!!!!! and belonging to an institution that was supposed to stop war, but has been the cause of more war than before it started is going to hurt our image? I would state bombing every middle eastern country, subsidizing Israel, and torture pretty much did us in on this front
7) “Ron Paul discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation and would not provide equal rights and protections to glbt citizens”
That is just false. He believes it is a state issue not a federal issue which is why he voted for that bill. “The governments have no right to tell any consenting adults who they can marry. Call it what they want I don’t care, it is not the governments job to tell them what they can or cannot do”
8) “Ron Paul has an unnatural obsession with guns”
This is just an ignorant assertion. Who is this person to say what is unnatural. It is rhetoric and ignorant rhetoric at that
9) “Ron Paul would butcher our already sad educational system”
Anyone that has looked at the statistics of our educational system knows that since the feds got involved it has gone down. No Child Left Behind anyone?
10) “Ron Paul is opposed to the separation of church and state”
Again, the President cannot overturn 13 Supreme Court decisions nor the 1st Amendment so his beliefs are irrelevant
It’s not a matter of what the president walks into office with the power to do. It’s about what he would attempt to do. The fact of the matter is, if he was president, and the congress sent him a bill for approval that overturned Roe V. Wade for example, he could, and judging from his VOTING RECORD (that thing that shows the general ideological leanings of the people you elect), would, sign it into law. The bill would then have to be approved by the judicial branch to make sure that it met constitutional requirements, but then they might just go ahead and o.k. it too. It’s not that he could just wave a magic wand in the air and make it happen, it’s that it gets closer to happening with someone like him in the white house. That’s why I refuse to vote for anyone who claims to be pro-life. And if you actually think that privatizing the world is going to fix the problems we are facing, look at the global south. Where privatization is often mandated by the military and market might of the Global North. It DOESN’T WORK! For example private companies stop producing medicine to treat malaria, not because it doesn’t work, or it’s not needed, but because the people who suffer from malaria can’t afford the medication. Because of Privatization they can use that as a valid point. We live in 21st Century and we still have people dying from diseases that we’ve had beaten for decades! Because of the Invisible Hand of the Free Market! Whereas if it were mandated by government, we could have probably nearly eradicated the disease decades ago. Of course, isolationists like Paul, will claim that’s not our problem to do things like that. We pull out of the world, and give it the finger while it crumbles in upon itself. Sounds like a good solution? When are all these monkey’s going to wake up and realize that borders are just lines in the sand that someone made up. Oh whoops! Wait, I called us monkeys, and I forgot that Paul is anti-evolution too. Sorry for thinking that I may not have come from dirt. I guess I’d like to believe that I’m better than that. I guess I’m just another one of those Intellectual Elitists. Do you have a Gulag around that I could stay in? Wouldn’t want to shake up the private party all these backward thinking Statist-racist-sexist-creationist Paul supporters are throwing.
Well you are in luck because he does not deny evolution. He just does not believe that “God” and Evolution have to be mutually exclusive
This is bullshit…Ron Paul for President!!!
Any one who supports intelligent design and denies evolution is a wing-nut. Please, do not support another wing-nut for president.
completely disregarding anything else related in the post, it sounds like someone should look into fractals found in nature. you come off as ignorant.
People who deny evolution and promote Intelligent Design aren’t nuts. They’re just in denial. Intelligent Design is the last gasp of flat earth types who would seek to pervert the very nature of science by drawing a conclusion based on faith in something that cannot be tested and forcing the evidence to fit said conclusion rather than letting the evidence guide your direction. with the vast evidence supporting it i don’t “believe” evolution to be a fact i KNOW it’s a fact.
Well, I’m sorry to inform you that I disagree with your perspective on what has, for me, been the most inspiring and apathy curing politician I’ve ever been privileged to come across. Say what you like about his supporters, they at least have someone to support. The vitriolic nature of the anti-Pauls is obvious and is not persuading anyone to dislike him. In fact, I believe it is more beneficial than not. I couldn’t help but chuckle to myself reading this and the comments. I hope you think long and hard about your positions here and come to see that liberty, not control, and individual responsibility over governmental nannyism/i.e. control are the solutions not the problem. We are in the dire straits now precisely from incremental affronts to this true freedom. I can only express my opinion as have you though.
You can not wake someone who is only pretending to be asleep. The make believe world you are clinging to is ending. I hope you are ready.
peace and love…Ron Paul 2012!
Wait…
Is this a repost?
Type anything this dingbat says into ronpaularchive.com and see what Ron really believes and has said. this author just twists things so they look bad when it is not. I really would like factual information on Candidates and this is just full of lies.
http://www.ronpaularchive.com/1997/10/repeal-of-the-davis-bacon-law/
http://www.ronpaularchive.com/2000/01/statement-on-osha-home-office-regulations/
Are you nuts? You literally have no clue WHATSOEVER who Ron Paul is, what he stands for, or what the Constitution is for that matter! You’ve got to learn that just because something is a “good thing” doesn’t mean it’s the government’s job to enforce it into every single person’s life!
1. It isn’t the IRS’ job! You can’t be thought police! The society of today will actually take care of racism quite handily on its own. It simply isn’t a government function.
2. That’s an ignorant way of putting it. Women have control of their bodies, it’s when they lose control that’s a problem. We have to draw the line for when someone is human somewhere, and since a huge segment of the population has a firm belief about that, I see no reason not to draw the line there. Once everyone knows where the line is there can be no excuse, it simply is murder in the eyes of many. And if you believed it was murder, how could you possibly let people get away with it?
3. History shows that your apocalyptic doomsday view of a world that isn’t meticulously manipulated by dictators is less than accurate. A truly free market economy balances itself out quite well, instead of the 40% wealth in the hands of the top 1% we have right now. No, Ron Paul would not be disastrous for the working class, he’d be disastrous for the wealthy.
4. You don’t even understand how his tax plan works… or the current system, for that matter, in which the rich pay the least taxes. All of these tax credits he’s trying to get rid of are what the wealthy abuse to cheat their income bracket!!! He’s doing EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you’re accusing him of.
5. Ron Paul is an outspoken proponent of alternative fuel, his idea is not for the environment to get desecrated by millions of oil rigs shooting up! The idea is that, in a free economy, that is not being manipulated, we can and already could have had a huge variety of alternative fuels available. Again, these things simply aren’t the government’s job! They can’t regulate our lives like this, no one gave them the right, and things always work out better when they don’t meddle anyway!!!
6. Um, you are just plain clueless on this one. Ron Paul is the only candidate the outside world has seen in years that they don’t view as an awful dictator. He’s the only one who wants to get our troops off their shores, and stop policing countries we don’t own. How would you feel if China stationed troops all over our country?! If they drove tanks around and had ships parked on all our shores?! WE ARE DOING THIS TO OTHER COUNTRIES, and you say they will be upset at our president when we pull out? YOU ARE SO NAIVE.
7. No, Ron Paul does not discriminate, your statement is straight up slander. You have such a narrow view of the world, just accepting a bill at face value. Bills are never exactly what they seem, and even if it was, that wouldn’t mean “Ron Paul discriminates”, it would mean “Ron Paul doesn’t support the government discriminating”. NOT THE GOVERNMENT’S PLACE! Simply not their job.
8. Guns are what protect our freedom. If Ron Paul was the psychopath you make him out to be, don’t you think he’d have tried to use his guns instead of sound logic and 40 hard years of campaigning the right, legal way, always supporting the exact same ideals? The Constitution is VERY clear as to whether we have a right to bear arms. Hint: we do. If you have a beef with that, I suggest you take it up with our forefathers, and/or move out the country, because this land is OUR land, and you will not strip our liberty because you think an artificial sense of security is worth your freedom.
9. Our education system couldn’t be “butchered”, because it is completely and utterly worthless right now. If you actually look at the results of private schools versus public schools you would realize how full of crap your eighth point is, because private schools do MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better on average than the pile of steaming dung that is our public education. And once again, you are confusing the idea that the federal government shouldn’t have anything to do with a private business’ choices, with the idea that Ron Paul wants to have separate schools for blacks and whites and make all the women sit on the floor. You are simply trying to paint Ron Paul as something he isn’t. He never supported any of that or anything like it.
10. You can’t “separate” church and state, and that idea was never in our constitution or any other meaningful legal document. Nobody even knows what it actually means, they just throw it around as a way of bashing the candidate they don’t like. If you look at Ron Paul’s views and what he’s actually trying to accomplish, it would be clear he has absolutely no goal to enforce his ideals on us! It is exactly the opposite!
He just wants every single American to have absolute freedom! That’s what this country was founded on and that is what is so amazing about our great Constitution!!! Your freedom only ends where another’s begins. That is how it should be. The government does far more than it should, and it is not the only way to accomplish something in society. In fact in most cases, making something illegal has demonstrated to make the effects of it far more drastic than they should have been naturally (Drug war, prostitution, homosexual marriage, War in Iraq, War in Libya, etc etc etc etc back for almost a century now).
For Freedom! For Liberty! For America! Ron Paul Revolution!
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9. Our education system couldn’t be “butchered”, because it is completely and utterly worthless right now. If you actually look at the results of private schools versus public schools you would realize how full of crap your eighth point is, because private schools do MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better on average than the pile of steaming dung that is our public education. And once again, you are confusing the idea that the federal government shouldn’t have anything to do with a private business’ choices, with the idea that Ron Paul wants to have separate schools for blacks and whites and make all the women sit on the floor. You are simply trying to paint Ron Paul as something he isn’t. He never supported any of that or anything like it.
Private schools get to pick and choose who they educate and teach. And if your kid is failing in his/her private school that private school can kick that kid out.
It’s kind of stupid to compare private schools and public schools and claim that private schools do oh so much better when they get to game the system that shows that they’re doing better. Lets see them exist by the same exact rules that public schools have to abide by and then see if they do so much better.
And you may believe in Ron Paul and his belief that a man who died of cancer and had $400,000 in debt shouldn’t be helped or the government shouldn’t step in…but that is a level of moral depravity that shouldn’t be allowed to exist.
Ron Paul for President? He isn’t even qualified to be County Dog Catcher
But if you so believe in Ron Paul then lets see you voluntarily surrender your medicare, mediciaid and social security. Surrender all the social safety nets that your boy Ron Paul wants to destroy…
But don’t worry..I won’t be holding my breath on you doing so.
The U.S. test scores rank 25th in math and 21st in science among industrialized nations. We spend more than any country in the world on education. You automatically make it a race issue, when clearly it is a personal responsibility issue. A private school will not kick a child out based on their race. They will however kick a child out for being overly disruptive, or having poor performance in academics. (not without conferencing with the family first and trying to resolve the issue) Teachers unions and the federal government have driven our public school system into the ground. It is utterly impossible to fire a bad teacher. Many teachers get into the profession for the wrong reasons. They want the vacation and holiday time off and still get paid. They could care less about the children. Those who do care about the children are jaded by the system within a few years, and tend to lose their zest for teaching. Useless paperwork, and teaching to the test inhibit the teachers from challenging our children’s minds. less than half of the monies collected through taxes and federal funding go to the education of our children. A majority of that money goes to the administrations of the various school districts. Our schools are too top heavy. You are drinking the koolaid that the government is putting into your cup. It is people like you that perpetuate the race war in this country. We, as a nation, are capable of moving way beyond the race issue, if only you people would stop feeding into the governments BS in trying to continue the race hatred in this country. They know that a country that is divided cannot stand, and that is exactly where they want to keep us…. Divided. That is how they keep control of us. I realize that nothing will change, simply because there are people like you that will continue to drink the koolaid. I am very saddened by all the ignorance. I have no doubt you can read. I don’t think you have much comprehension. Wow! what a great job our public schools did with you!
Who wrote this article is very socialist and very pro-big government. The article states some of the 10 reasons I would vote for him. LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC RON PAUL 2012!!!
Cause anytime the government does something it’s “Socialist!”. If only they knew what socialism, communism, capitalism, free market actually meant. Metalflyer = moron. They’re under the delusion that the founders wanted an anarchist free for all. Or just a country where people could make $$$ any way they wanted. Then these socialists started abolashing slavery, enforcing safe working conditions, stopping child exploitation… how dare they!
A basis of everything you know starts at home, or when you were a kid correct? So say your parents were progressively liberal, as well as your school, so that’s what or how you re gonna think for the rest of your life, but you argue to say that Ron Paul is going to abolish social security, minimum wage, the IRS, etc, my question is what good has it done for you, personally?
Well, let’s start with the fallacy of your first statement:”A basis of everything you know starts at home, or when you were a kid correct? So say your parents were progressively liberal, as well as your school, so that’s what or how you re gonna think for the rest of your life,”
Too easy. Incorrect. People are LEARNING creatures. As an example, my father was a heavy liberal. I rebelled and became a heavy conservative. Then I grew up and became a conservative moderate (with a short stint as a Ron Paul supporter in there). Basic psychology shows that, yes, we are influenced in our early lives, but it is NOT our manifest destiny.
“but you argue to say that Ron Paul is going to abolish social security, minimum wage, the IRS, etc, my question is what good has it done for you, personally?”
Again, too easy. my parents are retired (Social Security). My best friend has an extremely rare condition (hit him at age 25) that has left him blind and with more than 50% of his time heavily drugged due to severe migraines (social security Disability). Minimum wage? EASY! I have worked those jobs. They suck. I wouldn’t want to do them for less. Yet, as a kid, I would have had no choice. As an adult, I have worked them to pay for my schooling so I could GET a better paying job. Couldn’t have afforded school if they had paid less. Tie it all together…If (as Ron Paul would have) we expect individuals to tend to those problems, I would have NEVER been able to go to school because I would have been working for pennies, my parents could NOT have retired (they didn’t make very much over minimum wage and had little in savings), and my friend? God only knows…probably dead. The drugs he takes are very expensive.
So, now, YOU tell ME…why would I even consider Ron Paul when he would let those I care for ROT?
The federal government has no right holding your friend or parents hands through life. The do not have to rot though. Everything worked 100% before social security. Medical care costs increased and quality decreased AFTER it existed.
Still that does not mean states cannot provide sometime of system like SS or Medicare on their own. Just the federal government shouldn’t.
i agree ssj12, but can someone please tell me what they think should happen with regards to the civil rights amendments to the constitution? if you all who support ron paul (who i agree with on 95% of the issues) think that the federal government should not oversee enforcement of civil rights laws, that scares the crap out of me!!! im a black woman, and i have a son, and i’ve experienced racism on many levels (even if it wasn’t directed at me, i witnessed it)! the thought of having to research a states’ civil rights laws before deciding whether or not i’d like to vacation there is preposterous! what if a state decided that it was ok to discriminate against me? should i just suck it up and deal with not being able to visit a state in the country i was born in because they don;t like the way i look? im not trying to make this racial at all, but when i hear this type of talk, these are some of the things i think of…
Tim,
Who pays for all of this? It is not like it is free money. Go ask your neighbors to give you money to buy a new car. Think about it on a local level. It seems crazy, but it is okay to ask the elites to redistribute income in the ‘honest’ way they see fit. Personally, I’d rather keep more of MY money and give out the way I see fit.
My parents are retired too just like everybody else. Why do we want to keep supporting a broken system. I might be an outcast, but I actually plan for what my family will need in the future by saving. What if the minimum wage was set at $100/hr? Would everybody be sitting on easy street? This doesn’t work. Wouldn’t it be better that people with lower skills be allowed to work rather than pull an unemployment check? Without a minimum wage they could get a job and develop new skills and get a better job that pays more.
Kudos to you if you actually paid your way through school and didn’t take a gov’t handout through Federal student loans.
socialism and communism are fascism, a free market and free market capitalism is called freedom.
Except communism and socialism are far left ideologies and fascism is a far right ideology. There’s a reason Hitler and Stalin didn’t get along.
And communism would be freedom too – I’d think a stateless, classless society would appeal quite a lot to an ignoramus like yourself.
looks like the state run media has let loose all thier weapons to attack Ron Paul……. as can be expected, they pull the race card….when are the floride ridden brain dead ppl going to get it. Al Gore’s father was not a racist and nither was Sen. Robert Byrd. The Dems. have historicly been the racist party……. Ron Paul loves ppl and America too!!!!!! “end the fed”/ equal oppertunity destroyer
Ayayay, brainwash, take a breath, buddy, will ya? “they pull the race card…”? “floride”? “Al Gore’s father was not a racist and nither was Sen. Robert Byrd…”? “The Dems. have historicly been the racist party…” (that is some sharp insight right there!!), “equal oppertunity destroyer…”?? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! What the heck are you even talking about? As for the race card, please allow me to englighten you:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40855
The only right way is mildly left.
Learn the truth instead of this what Progressive-liberal mouthpiece pushes. You can’t keep having a government how he would like when there is NO money to fund it & putting it upon taxpayers to support endless entitlement programs that I will never really get any benefit out of.
The truth is in the voting record.
Ron Paul is a backwoods ostrich.
My, my a little “class conscious” are we?
Wolffie’s translation: “Those dam Yankees are putting on airs again! Thinking they’re so fancy with their big cities with reliable infrastructure, economic opportunity, and schoolin!”
As for me, I’m heading back to Mises.org and Ron Paul.com where my preconceived notions and ideas are challenged on a daily basis. Where ideas are presented that contradict what I have been taught and leave it up to me to decide what I will think. This web site is for those who want to reinforce what they already believe. I’ll waste no more of my time here and leave this site to the addicts.
Dr. Paul spent time putting his ideas down on paper, filling them out fully in a number of books. If you don’t want to support him by buying one of his books, but want to educate yourself on his stands, which are deeper than a sound bite, check them out from the public library, you paid for it with your tax dollars, use it.
Question is, do the American people care enough to take upon themselves such an action? We’ve already suffered so many casualties overseas for this phony war on terror; do we dare take back our own country? Will we clean up our own back yard, or will we continue to allow the same forces who murdered our 35th ( & arguably last REAL) president to lead us further down the same path taken by ancient Rome? What say you, America? Is it (still) worth our blood? Are you prepared to stand defiantly on a gallows waiting for the trapdoor to fall out, or will you hide in the crowd of onlookers, hoping not to catch the hangman’s eye?
I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again, voting will NOT fix this. The only thing that will is the true reason behind the 2nd ammendment we were overthrown in November of 1963 & we never came back. Until we fix this, no vote can succeed. Until we fix this we all remain enslaved.
This is leftist propoganda at best. A shameful hit piece. Ron Paul supports workers rights to organize, to collectively bargain, etc. Not supporting OSHA, is not saying that he thinks safety of workers is not important. He is simply stating it should be up to the workers and the company, not a government bueracracy. Over regulation in this regard is forcing business out of this country. I for one work in an incredibly dangerous job and just so happen to think that safety is my own responsibilty. Imagine that. Furthermore, he doesn’t personally support abortion. But UNLIKE some ridiculous legislators he is not trying to ram through bills that make it a federal issue. This is a state’s matter, and should be handled as such. I hate to break it to anyone, but the supreme court has already ruled that being a “natural born citizen” is not the same as being a “born citizen”. If you are born in the United States you are a United States citizen. However, if both of your parents are NOT United States citizen’s than it is in “serious doubt” that you are a “NATURAL born citizen.” Only a NATURAL born citizen can hold the highest office in the land. One last point, if you were to do the research at all, you would find that the federal government’s involvement in education has been disasterous at best. Please read “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” by Charolette Iserbyt. Her credentials alone lend significant credence to the documented case that is presented in the book…You know, I am very much a social liberal…however I am fiscally conservative. Anytime someone wants people to take responsibilty for themselves AND their own community they are accused of being heartless. NOBODY wants the enviroment to be destroyed, by cruel and inhumane corporations and so on and so forth. But the reality of the situation, as clearly demonstrated by current circumstances, is a grave fallicy in the logic that the state can fix it all for us. Every program set up with good intentions seems to only further worsen the situation. This country has more programs to benifit the poor than ever, and more poverty than ever. It is unsustainable. Get a clue. Wealth can only come from productivity and work. It is not Big Brother’s job to take care of everyone from cradle to grave. It is OUR own job to take care of ourselves and look out for those who can’t. If government blundering is the only way to go about it, than it is first ineffective, and mostly a sign of the decedance that has become our crumbling population.
Oh horror of horrors! Pointing out Ron Paul’s voting record! Can’t have that.
If his “ideals” are the only thing that separates him from someone who votes for these bills on grounds other than “small government”, why treat him like a messianic figure?
I’m really pissed that, on the day I find this article, the Library of Congress websites are all closed down.
All side issues, Summer you must be a tool for the banksters, what about the bill of rights? Ron Paul is about liberty, his district in Texas is overwhelmingly pro-life but as President he would likely support a woman’s right to do with her body as she pleases. Abortion, Affirmative action, etc are all outside the role of the US government, read the 10th amendment
Uh.. did you even read the article before you posted that asinine comment? If you had, you would know that Ron Paul does NOT support a woman’s right to choose. If you had read the comments, other than the ones from the people that disagree with him, you would ALSO see that even his supporters agree with his belief that a woman should not have the right to choose what to do with her own body. READ!!!!!
He leaves the choice up to the states to allow such things. So instead of a federal blanket policy on the restriction of abortion. A woman seeking an abortion may travel to a state that allows the procedure. It’s really an advantage for a woman to vote for Ron Paul.
Are yo kidding. That would make it incredibly difficult for a woman. Most states are trying, and succeeding, in making if as difficult as possible to get an abortion. If you repealed Roe V. Wade most states would outlaw abortion. It’s not easy or even possible in some cases for someone to go to another state. Are you rich? Do you not understand that some of us work constantly, have no vacation time, living pay check to pay check? There is no ability for a person in this position to do that.
Okay so HOW is it an advantage for a person of meager means to pay the expense of taking a trip to another state to get an abortion? If you live in say Alabama and Ron Paul has his way the entire Southeastern US would criminalize abortion overnight. You could have Planned Parenthood pay for the trips but under a Ron Paul administration they’d be gone too. Methinks Ron has not thought this out.
He only wants to stop public funding for abortions, not barring a woman to do as she pleases. If she wants to “accidently” get pregnant, then she should have to pay for it from her own pocket, not mine!
Ummm..what public funding for abortion are you talking about?
And I am so happy that states rather than the federal government can decide what women can with their on bodies. What an improvement.
Abortion is not an issue if one has money, but poor women may not have the option of travel (time and cost) to a distant state for a procedure. Only the wealthy having certain rights should not sit well with people.
Sadly, the states that are most likely to restrict abortion also are the same that want to reduce money for education, children’s healthcare, welfare, etc. They want more money for prisons though…so it all balances out.
No public funds go to abortions. It’s been illegal since the 70s. Stop parroting right wing talking points. Not a dime of tax payer money goes to abortions. If you think so, show it. Also why is accidentally in quotes?
Health Bill passed in December of last year (H.R 3590)
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3590/text
READ:
SEC. 1303
They make it too easy to discredit them…
That’s what happens when you watch Fox News all day.
Yes, it IS too easy. I just had to follow the link, read it and debunk it.
I believe you may be referring to this clause: “(A) SPECIAL RULES RELATING TO COVERAGE OF ABORTION SERVICES.CommentsClose CommentsPermalink
(1) VOLUNTARY CHOICE OF COVERAGE OF ABORTION SERVICES. (A) IN GENERAL. Notwithstanding any other provision of this title (or any amendment made by this title), and subject to subparagraphs (C) and (d) (i) nothing in this title (or any amendment made by this title), shall be construed to require a qualified health plan117 to provide coverage of services described in subparagraph (b)(i) or (b)(ii) as part of its essential health benefits for any plan year; and (ii) the issuer of a qualified health plan shall determine whether or not the plan provides coverage of services described in subparagraph (b)(i) or (b)(ii) as part of such benefits for the plan year. (B) ABORTION SERVICES. (i) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS PROHIBITED. The services described in this clause are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is not permitted, based on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved. (ii) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS ALLOWED. The services described in this clause are abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds appropriated for the Department of Health and Human Services is permitted, based118 on the law as in effect as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning of the plan year involved. (C) PROHIBITION ON FEDERAL FUNDS FOR ABORTION SERVICES IN COMMUNITY HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION. (i) DETERMINATION BY SEC- RETARY. The Secretary may not determine, in accordance with subparagraph (a) (ii), that the community health insurance option established under section 1323 shall provide coverage of services described in subparagraph (b)(i) as part of benefits for the plan year unless the Secretary (i) assures compliance with the requirements of paragraph”
Now, maybe I don’t read so good (I’d say I think I read this PRETTY DARN CLOSELY)…But the VERY FIRST LINE says that it is VOLUNTARY (to the provider).
THEN it says, “(2) PROHIBITION ON THE USE OF FEDERAL FUNDS. (A) IN GENERAL. If a qualified health plan provides coverage of services described in paragraph (1) (B) (i) , the issuer of the plan shall not use any amount attributable to any of the following for purposes of paying for such services” Let me translate: NO FUNDS FOR ABORTIONS.
Wait, it gets better! Ron Paul wants the state in control, right? How’s this suit you? “(1) NO PREEMPTION OF STATE LAWS REGARDING ABORTION. Nothing in this Act shall be construed to preempt or otherwise have any effect on State laws regarding the prohibition of (or requirement of) coverage, funding, or procedural requirements on abortions, including parental notification or consent for the performance of an abortion on a minor.124″
WOW!!!! Maybe you should ACTUALLY READ what you post as proof.
+1, Desmond I do believe you’ve been had on this issue, perhaps do some more research on his positions before you try to debate them… also LOOK at ME I can use CAPITAL letters too, take ME more SERIOUSLY!
Read more than just the tenth amendment. Congress has the right to “provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States” (Article I, Section 7)
Affirmative Action, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Civil Rights Act, etc. are WELL within the scope of the U.S. Government.
“Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities.”
That’s one of the most absurd claims I have ever seen. He values equal rights for every individual.
“Ron Paul has sponsored legislation that would repeal affirmative action”
Which has nothing to do with “equal rights” and every thing to do with special privilege.
Please stop trying to mislead the people with these false equivalences.
“keep the IRS from investigating private schools who may have used race as a factor in denying entrance, thus losing their tax exempt status”
Because he doesn’t believe the government should be taxing racist private schools more than non-racist private schools. That’s just another form of punishment to control personal decisions. If I want to start a racist school, that’s my decision, and in a free society, any one that wants to patronize my racist business that I accept as a client can do so, and the government treats me equally before the law as long as I’m not violating any one’s contract rights.
“would limit the scope of Brown versus Board of Education”
That’s a lie.
“and would deny citizenship for those born in the US if their parents are not citizens.”
How does that deny “equal rights” for minorities? Being foreign born has nothing to do with skin color or minority status, it has to do with being foreign born. People are foreign born don’t get the same privileges for themselves and their children.
Jus soli is a bad legal principle, and encourages illegal immigration.
“Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights.Ron Paul makes it very clear that one of his aims is to repeal Roe v. Wade.”
Paul would leave it to states to decide, because he doesn’t believe in an authoritarian federal government dictating to states that they must keep abortion legal, or must
He believes the fetus has a right to not be murdered. I suspect you’re one of those who thinks a woman has a right to not provide 9 months of support to her own child, yet believes a perfect stranger should provide a life time of financial support to the poor who need medical care and can’t afford it.
” his, of course, goes against current medical and scientific information as well as our existing laws and precedents.”
Legal precedent is not the end all and be-all of society. The legal state changes, and given Roe vs Wade was unconstitutional, its repeal would be a change in the right direction. The federal government should neither prohibit or force-legalize abortion.
As for medical opinion, there is absolutely no consensus that life doesn’t begin at conception.
“Ron Paul would be disastrous for the working class. He supports abolishing the Federal minimum wage”
Your economic ignorance is showing. The minimum wage does not push wages up, it just makes teenagers unemployed. You can’t force companies to push wages up, or else we could get wages up to $1000 an hour through a high minimum wage.
” has twice introduced legislation to repeal OSHA,”
So that corporations return from overseas and setup manufacturing in the US.
“would deal devastating blows to Social Security”
You’re just deluding yourself by thinking Social Security and Medicare can continue in their present form. Paul has done more than any one to protect Social Security and Medicare, by introducing legislation like the ‘Social Security Preservation Act’:
http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=299&Itemid=60
He admits though that the obligations made, now at over $70 trillion, can’t fully be fulfilled.
He also wants to give younger people the option of opting out of these entitlement programs, rather than tying them to the government wagon, like the liberals you support would.
“He has also twice sponsored legislation seeking to repeal the Davis-Bacon Act and the Copeland Act which among other things provide that contractors for the federal government must provide the prevailing wage and prohibits corporate “kick backs.”
The Davis-Bacon Act is a Jim Crow law. It hurts the most vulnerable in society.
“Ron Paul’s tax plan is unfair to lower earners and would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes.”
It’s fair in that it taxes people what they use in government services, rather than making one income class pay for the needs of another.
Liberals don’t have a real understanding of fairness though, so you don’t grok this.
“He has repeatedly submitted amendments to the tax code that would get rid of the estate and gift taxes, tax all earners at 10%,”
He doesn’t believe in government taking so much of people’s money. This is a reason to support him.
“Ron Paul’s policies would cause irreparable damage to our already strained environment.”
This assumes falsely that the EPA is the only way that the environment can be protected. In his hometown of Pittsburgh, it was local ordinances that cleaned up the air and water, not an EPA that is in bed with big corporations.
” Among other travesties he supports off shore drilling, building more oil refineries,”
Off shoring drilling and oil refineries are not a travesty, they are a source of income for Americans.
“mining on federal lands,”
Which is excellent.
It seems you just don’t like industry.
If your readers are against economic growth and prosperity, they will agree with you. If they favor modern industrial civilization and material wealth that gives us the luxury of being able to enjoy recreation and pursue the arts, then they will support Paul.
RON PAUL is for our Freedoms and against a corrupt government that is driven by greed. He is against ‘Special Interests’ and is for the US Citizen. The Dollar is being devalued everyday as more ‘Stimulus’ payments are printed (without adequate gold to back it). This is only stimulating a crashing economy. The IRS is an agency that we can do without. There are better processes for all of the above, and Dr Ron Paul is willing to show us the way (without a Special Interest in Control)! Go Dr Ron Go! Ron Paul for President 2012! LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT MONEY BOMB DONATION! ;D
People need to wake up! “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The
issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to
whom it properly belongs.” — Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
“History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and it’s issuance.” — James Madison
“If Congress has the right [it doesn't] to issue paper money [currency], it was given to them to be used by…[the government] and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations” — President Andrew Jackson, Vetoed Bank Bill of 1836
“Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are the United States government’s institutions.
They are not government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign swindlers” — Congressional Record 12595-12603 — Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency (12 years) June 10, 1932
“We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it”. — Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)
So you’d rather have 50000 different currencies?
Let me know when you want to think things through.
While there are some issues that I find interesting in this article and would like to research more, I find the author simply does not comprehend or completely misinterprets alot of these bills, making it really hard for me to take this article seriously. I feel every candidate has his/her drawbacks, but comparatively this (were it true and found to be detrimental, which I doubt for the most part) is nothing compared to any of the other “top-tier” candidates I’ve seen. Ron Paul still has my strong support, and I do believe overall his policies are sound and would change this country for the better. He at least deserves the opportunity.
Don’t you believe you have to take the good with the bad? There are some things you will probably disagree with, like with every politician.
But he’s one of the main runners for presidency that is actually wanting to destroy the Federal Reserve – the one causing this massive debt, forget that lying Rick Perry too, I wouldn’t trust Perry even if you paid me a Million dollars.
Yeah, he’s a Libertarian, I don’t really think he should place himself in the Republican party either.
The Federal Reserve no more caused the massive debt then I caused the sun to eclipse.
Want to concern yourself with the debt? Then look to Republicans, including Ron Paul, for the dimwitted tax cuts to the rich, the dimwitted tax cuts to corporations and their unpaid for wars.
When Ron Paul says he wants to get rid of the Fed you might want to ask what master he’s attempting to serve.
Because it sure isn’t you.
I don’t think anyone that’s awake would believe any of these lies. Ron Paul is really the ONLY candidate that gives some hope of restoring this republic BACK to the great nation we once were by returning our freedom and self respect which is slowly being sucked out by this overbearing rogue government.
“Great nation”?
You mean back when gays had to hide their true selves, blacks were slaves, women stayed in the kitchen, and children were unable to attend school because they were working in a factory all day?
Yeah, those were definitely the good old days.
Y’know, I don’t actually have an opinion on Ron Paul himself but does anyone else find the degree of hero worship from his supporters slightly creepy? It’s verging on “Dear Leader” levels.
Were you not around for the 2008 elections? It was the same with Obama, but his “change” had little to back it up and turned out to be a political rouse anyway.
Oh my god someone who fights for our Constitutional rights, and doesn’t believe in our huge government bureaucracy that’s destroying the economy (which he predicted would happen)?! Who would dare find that appealing? That’s just absolutely bizarre…
*end sarcasm*
I don’t think so at all. The reason he receives such passionate support from people is because he’s straightforward and consistent. Never in my experience of following his political career have I seen him step out of line of his ideology to satisfy the public. It’s that kind of consistency that every politician SHOULD have, but does not. Plus, Ron Paul has strong support from the younger population, who typically will show more energy and passion in their beliefs. I’m 19 myself, and most people I know who are supporters of Ron Paul are under the age of 30. We are the ones who say, “We’re gonna change this,” to all the wrong in the country/world, and we have the energy to do so. Paul must be doing something right if the youth are cheering him on, wouldn’t you say?
His followers feel oppressed by the government. The IRS takes a big chunk of their paycheck. They also believe that the bankers that comprise the Federal Reserve are somehow through inflation, stealing the value of the dollar people put into tier savings accounts. They like his message of freedom and liberty with less Government interference and less war.
It runs a bit deeper than that. The most vocal Paul supporters are entrenched in some heavy conspiracy theories. These are the people that believe the Fed is an international cabal, mostly of Jewish bankers somehow linked to the Rothschild family, intent of destroying the value of the dollar to capsize our economy and bring a one-world gov’t/economy. Jew bankers? You see how he got the stromfront.org vote, right? Paul gives the dollar about 5 years before it loses its hold on the international stage. Its an interesting mix of end times theology, deep conspiracy theory, nationalist isolationism, and austerity. At a time when so many feel mistrust, betrayal, loss of faith, etc in the governement, these tin foil hat tales of banking cabals intent on destroying America take root much easier.
hmmm, this from a rothschild?
one only has to do a small amount of reading to learn that these “conspiracy theories” have a very solid line of continuity with open admissions of their plans for R.F.I.D. chip implementation etc. and this is supposed to be fantasy?
get over the cry baby tactics to defend banks that want to steal a nations controll of its currency by holding up cries of anti-semetic accusations when i have not once heard the word “jewish” utilized when people are very obviously pointing at the bankers business practices, not their religious beliefs.
so what if ron paul recognises the decline of the dollar! he doesnt delude himself that an unbacked currency that is overprinted to the point of being worthless wont have any value around the world. there is a reason why russia and china will use the ruble instead of dollars for their trade with each other… america racks up it’s debts and wont pay them and then makes their money worthless.
I do. It’s scary how rabid his supporters are.
No creepier then the Obama Zealots we had in 2008.
I got tired of going through each falsehood this author misconstrued so i stopped with number five but he is obviously wrong on most counts and what he isnt wrong on is a personal choice for example= Ron Paul is prolife
I appoligze for the formatting i wrote it up in MS word and is looked much clearer.
1. How beneficial is it for a company (school) to ban races? Would you want your kid to go to that school? if its private, they really should be able to do what they want. Shame on us for sending our kids there. With less regulation, anyone can open up a school.
2. yes he is anti-abortion, no a surpise considering he has delivered 100s of babies, but believes thats a state issue. What science do you subscribe to? When a baby becomes a human is up for debate.
3. have you tried to open a business? Regulations stop anyone of us from just opening a shop out of our house. I can build solar panels, and dont have a certification. That means I cant work? Contracts with liabilities outlined will solve over regulation and red tape. -Most of this is Austrian economics, read up
4. Paul is for abolishing the income tax and sound money. You must fix monetary policy before fiscal, otherwise the paper shell game continues. -Only politician who recognizes this, again austrian economics
5. When someone pollutes the environment, they are stepping on the property rights of other individuals. This must be enforced. Off shore drilling is okay, assuming the states and countries and corporations surrounding those waters agree to be responsible for any mishap. No millions dollar settlements on billion dollars of damage. Full liablity
6. The UN takes away the soveriegnty of the member countries. Look at Libya, UN resolution over rules our US constitution???
7. Your source quotes FEDERAL FUNDING. No special interest group should get tax payer money. Funding should only go toward things that benefit ALL. How come theres no federal funding for straight people?
8. If everyone had a gun, would you go around killing everyone, knowing that you would get shot immediately? When you ban guns, only the criminals have them. I dont know why people are so terrified of guns? Almost all people are not killers, and most are not stupid enough to mishandle a gun, especially when people are actually educated about them. many kids handle guns well, and arent going to shoot up their school, and wouldnt if he knew the staff were packing.
9. the educational system is broken, and needs to be abandoned. Let states take care of it, localize it more. Ever since the dept of edu started, education of youth has decreased. Look into John Taylor Gatto. Our current system trains kids to be subservient robots who take in a spew memorized text, and not free thinkers.
10. he isnt saying here are my beliefs, follow them. Or that family values are a religious thing at all. Why shouldnt a family be allowed to have their own beliefs and live their lives by it. Protecting the right to do that is what govt is for, not to shape the beliefe of anyone.
Stop twisting the truths, understand the business cycle and austrian economics, and you will see the bigger picture behind the views Paul has. These still are all minor issues when speaking of Paul. MONETARY/FISCAL policy (Pork barrel spending), and ENDING WARS are the MAIN issues, and if repubs,democrats -THE PEOPLE, can come together on anything it should be these two things. NO ONE can debate him on these topics, which are THE MOST IMPORTANT in our current situation, you can’t deny that.
Casey could have legally killed Caylee while she was in her womb, but instead murdered her two years later so she could party. That was MORE than fair to Caylee don’t you agree?
1) Stupid emotional appeals prove nothing.
2) Rightly or wrongly, Casey Anthony was acquited and is innocent in the eyes of the law. Since it’s a stupid comparison in the first place and neither of us know what happened, it also proves nothing.
I agree. Killing children before they are born IS stupid.
Some might say that a man attempting to control a woman or women by impregnating them then telling them that they have no control over their body IS stupid. Some might say judging others when you will never be in their shoes is easy to do and STUPID. Just sayin’.
Nice to see that you have roughly the same deliberate misinterpretation abilities as a second grader.
Letting her live two years was very compassionate. You should a least get to know them before you kill them. Lets give a 0-3 years.
How many children have you adopted? And you ONLY had sex for procreation occasions, right??
Most people posting in support of this absurd article do not understand Ron Paul’s ideology. He is AGAINST any form of collectivism; you may call that racism, he calls it liberty. He does not believe in group rights, hate crime laws, etc, because they do more to divide us. I do know his voting record quite well, and what you seem to leave out is that he has NEVER voted for a budget that wasn’t balanced; he does not request billions in pork like his colleagues; he voted against bringing us to the war in Iraq; he voted against the Patriot Act and is still one of very few politicians who even bring up the fact that it is possibly the greatest infringement on American civil liberties to date. You call him Racist, yet he received more donations from African Americans than any other GOP candidate in 2008. He understands monetary policy and the cause of booms and busts; something most politicians still do not understand.
It’s funny how scared people are of Ron Paul; the man has only been right on just about every major issue facing us today.
And Bon Jovi, if you want to pick one piece of legislation from a 30 year career to criticize fine; then I guess that means Barack Obama wants to euthanize babies after a botched abortion (see how easy it is to distort things)
If the only thing separating your voting record from people who would commonly classified as “bigots” is your “ideology”, you need to rethink your ideology.
If one person wants to take away a tenuous protection of their liberties because “dem blax are an inferior race” and another wants to take it away to “protect the liberties of the individual”, is there really a difference? The end result is the same: Jim Crow all over again.
So, the reasons are: Your abstract conjecture, hyperbole, baseless claims/assumptions, and ignorance/fear of libertarianism… I think I’ll vote for him then.
NONSENSE>…all this is PURE NONSENSE
Ron Paul will never be the Republican party candidate, and he should not be. He is the heart of the Libertarian party and should run as a Libertarian.
True he should run as a libertarian, but you know that the system is corrupt and running as a 3rd party candidate will get him nowhere. He has to run as a Republican to have any chance at the presidency. Look at his friend Ralph Nader.
He’s not a Libertarian, he’s a paleoconservative.
Ron Paul is as libertarian as I am a potato.
The Federal Government cuts off highway funding to any state that lowers its drinking age below 21. States *need* this funding, so no states lower their drinking age. This is, in effect, coercion.
How can the federal govt give what they dont have (ie borrow to spend)? Why does the state NEED funding? shouldnt the state be able to take care of itself? Why does someone in alaska have to pay for a highway in texas? Making the alaskan pay for texans is coercion
1. Conjecture. Ironic because voting against racist laws does not make one racist.
2. Disenguous argument. As an OBGYN, Paul has delivered 4000 babies, some with complications where he has saved the life of the mother. He cares about the reproductive health of women. That being said, he believes abortion should be a state issue. Probably has a thing for fetuses, what with the whole doctor thing.
3. Fair opinion.
4. Not sure about this one but I do know that Ron Paul wrote, and is gaining sponsors for a bill that would ban federal taxes on tips for service workers.
5. Property rights preserve nature more than a government bureaucracy ever could.
6. Yeah, Obama is doing wonders for our image by making and killing orphans with drone attacks
7. Gay Marriage shouldn’t even be a state issue. It should be a personal issue. The government should gtfo. That being said, a state’s decision is better than a federal government’s one size fits all mentality.
8. Guns are awesome when they aren’t operated by the govt. They are a deterrent for criminals to commit crimes and for the government to take away civil liberties.
9. The Dept of Education was created in the 1980s and has been a dismal FAILURE! Get rid of it and let states decide how to run their own schools.
10. As religious nuts go, he’s not very religious and he’s not nuts.
You seem to have no problem using conjecture to start each point. Don’t you think that’s unfair? I would have more respect for you if you left your assumptions out and just presented the facts.
When you say something like…
“Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities.”
…it’s a bit ingenuous. Ron Paul bases just about everything he believes on the individual being the minority. He’s completely against collectivism.
When Ron Paul says that a mob rule lets 51% take away the rights of the other 49%, and you say ‘Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities.’, it simply makes you look the fool. How can you expect to be taken seriously even if you bring valid points to the table?
He wants to abolish the federal reserve and more or less end military occupation and colonialism abroad. That’s enough reason for me to vote for him – that is if I voted to begin with. But of course he wouldn’t likely get elected because he would bring about financial collapse, thereby giving the people a chance to rise up and create something with substance, instead of the garbage we are overwhelmed with day after day, “election” after “election”.
10 reasons not to vote for Ron Paul? How about 10 reasons to get up off your butt and stop expecting voting to accomplish anything?
If you’re that simple-minded that you believe Ron Paul’s rhetoric, and you support him because of what he says, not his ACTUAL record, you aren’t very bright.
He’s been saying this for DECADES! believing anyone else is ignorant. He didnt vote for IRaq, Afghanistan, and has been trying to audit the FED since the 80s. You look at his record. In a race, compare it to others. Who has a better record?
OH! Have you forgotten Barack Hussein’s ACTUAL record
Whenever people start trotting out talking points like that, I just want to check you know: What is the Federal Reserve, what does it do and why do you want to abolish it?
the fed is a private banking cartel with a monopoly on the money supply and it should be abolished to protect the value of the dollar. 98% of the dollar’s purchasing power has gone away since they tricked the american people and congress to allow their counterfeiting enterprise in 1913
Imagine you have one of the few authentic babe Ruth rookie cards. Scarcity makes it very valuable and there are people out there willing to pay big bucks for your card.
Now suppose it is discovered in a box in someone’s attic, 10,000 authentic babe Ruth cards just like yours. they start slowly selling them into the market. they will get the full price for a while, but as the number of cards increases, more people will become aware of this. more cards will come onto the market, and over time the price will drop. what could once be exchanged for a house or luxury car, has been ‘inflated’ in numbers available and now can only buy a suit of clothes.
now say, they weren’t originals found in a a box in an attic, but were in fact, printed up with original plates. eventually enough of them could be printed that they become worthless, worth-less. those who sold their cards first, when there were fewer of them, profited the most, and those who bought in good faith, have the value of what they bought, robbed from them, by those who continue to print cards over time. There would come a point when the paper they are printed on would become more valuable than the card itself. this is what the Federal reserve does with paper money. it is a private bank given a monopoly on the creation of money. for those who don’t agree with the above devaluation of the dollar, all one need do is look at monetary history.
The humanity of our own offspring (ie the Unborn) does not contradict scientific and medical knowledge.
“[The zygote], formed by the union of an oocyte and a sperm, is the beginning of a new human being.”
-Keith L. Moore, Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2008. p. 2.
Ron Paul’s opposition to abortion, war and the death penalty shows that, unlike both liberals and conservatives, Ron Paul is consistent about opposition to killing people (which is always good for a president.)
No haters responding to that!
He, and apparently you, just don’t mind the life of the woman who may die because of the pregnancy. And please do not give me this crap that all pregnancies are safe or that it’s a fallacy. Mine wasn’t and I was in the US Army at the time. And all it took was for some doctor not to notice that I was B- with the father being an O+.
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Abortion.htm
» … Ron Paul is that “big government.” He has been for decades now without changing it whatsoever. From a naysayer’s POV, I don’t even see the illusion of change. He’s a fraud selling an utopian dream he himself doesn’t believe. A pie in the sky one.
Do you really think he’s changing it from within? Seriously? He’s a doctor who refused to go to bat for stem cell research. Honest men would tell the truth that they can’t change the system. Yet, he’s still supporting a corrupt deeply flawed system he publicly rails against.
He’s also a Republican who refuses to change to Independent. That shows how committed he is. It’s telling he lacks the courage of Ralph Nader. Nor are his fellow Republicans getting behind Ron Paul. This is simply a way of bloating his “war chest.” He’s going to have another losing bid for Presidency just taking up people’s time and money again without results. …«
Plus — I view him as a NAZI.
NAZI?? how is individual liberty a NAZI viewpoint? Running as a republican is his best bet. Too many retards vote rep/dem without even knowing who they are voting for, this is how the two party duopoly works. fight each other, and avoid the major issues. Paul brings the issues to the table. I wish he would run as independent, but how can he really win when there are so many who dont care about politics, and just vote for the guy they hear the most from on the TV.. Obama. Which is exactly why the media ignores Paul. Short of a revolution, there is no changing the system. Paul at least educates the masses. How many people knew about the FED before ’08??? No one even talked about it in politics, except for Paul, whose been talking about it for DECADES
Staunch supporter of the individual against the collective, holds human life sacred, is one of the most ardent pacifists to ever step into congress… clearly a NAZI.
His fellow Republicans aren’t getting behind him because does not pander to the mainstream republicans ideals which have gone very far askew. As far as I’m concerned his “top-tier” running mates come off as complete morons.His policies are very in line with the traditional Republican views of free market, small government, sound fiscal policy, and personal liberty and rights. I would really like to hear why you view him as a Nazi, that should be good for a laugh.
Check out the link: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/22/ron-paul-ralph-nader-agree-on-progressive-libertarian-alliance/
You are confusing Ron Paul as if he is like any other jerk off in the Republican party. He’s a libertarian.. that’s way different that a NAZI… which by the way, came from the leftist socialist Germany.
Leftist Socialist Germany?
Gee, no wonder hitler allowed Unions and murdered communists.
Nazis weren’t leftists, you idiot.
Technically, on the political spectrum, they were neither left nor right. On economic standpoints, however, they were socialist. The word NAZI comes from a shortening of the german “Nationalsozialismus” which means National Socialism.
The state owned equipment and means of production, giving management to government officials and then spreading wealth through the nation.
They were remarkably left in many different ways concerning the involvement of their government. The term ‘liberal’ in opposition of ‘conservative’ refers to the amount of government involvement brought on by the supporters. Traditional right-wing beliefs are focused on less government, less intrusion. Traditional left-wing is about more social programs and more social help. The Nazis put forth many social programs for their people.
The issue here is that while our right-wing party is infiltrated with religion, their socialist party was lousy with racists. The beginning of the Nazi party came from Germany lamenting its failings and blaming them on other nations and races. They felt great national and racial tribalism. They despised jewish money-lenders and felt that they should be in control of their own destinies.
They had reasons for doing what they did, just as every monster does… But their methods were incredibly stupid. Their actions were horrific and moronic.
I can’t see Ron Paul as a Nazi… He doesn’t have any of their ideals. Let’s stop paring down the argument by focusing on the points we think we can defeat, shall we?
He is a Libertarian who runs as a Republican to be able to get on the ballot. He admits it himself.
» … Ron Paul is that “big government.” He has been for decades now without changing it whatsoever. From a naysayer’s POV, I don’t even see the illusion of change. He’s a fraud selling an utopian dream he himself doesn’t believe. A pie in the sky one.
Do you really think he’s changing it from within? Seriously? He’s a doctor who refused to go to bat for stem cell research. Honest men would tell the truth that they can’t change the system. Yet, he’s still supporting a corrupt deeply flawed system he publicly rails against.
He’s also a Republican who refuses to change to Independent. That shows how committed he is. It’s telling he lacks the courage of Ralph Nader. Nor are his fellow Republicans getting behind Ron Paul. This is simply a way of bloating his “war chest.” He’s going to have another losing bid for Presidency just taking up people’s time and money again without results. …«
You are confusing Ron Paul as if he is like any other jerk off in the Republican party. He’s a libertarian.. that’s way different that a NAZI… which by the way, came from the leftist socialist Germany.
Do a websearch using “ralph nader” and “ron paul” as keywords.. you will find an alliance between the two.
Right….a leftist socialist US President defeated a leftist socialist Nazi. You know the Nazis who had paragraph 75 to get rid of homosexuals. Who was it again that wants that repeal of DADT and loves DOMA?
Only ten reasons!!??? Please! I can take ANY politician, and I really do mean ANY politician, and give you more than TWENTY reasons why you shouldn’t vote for them. If his voting record (and NOT his reason WHY he voted that way)is all you have….. This article was not worth the time it took to write this comment. Idiots! All of you!! America will never be free when the same-ol-same-ol group of politician puppets run OUR government. The best thing Americans can do now is get educated OUTSIDE the United States borders. You will see America as it truly is; ripped-off by the Bankers, broken, and poor.
Sorry, I’m voting for personal liberty and a much smaller government that obeys the constitution, I’m voting for RON PAUL !!!
Nice to see so many batshit libertarians arguing for Ron Paul like Creationist apologists.
“Ron Paul isn’t like that! You’re taking his words (and supported bills) out of context! Ron Paul loves all people! Can’t you see that?! Give Ron Paul your blind faith!”
Blah. Blah. Blah. Its so damn pathetic.
Grow up!
Well, Mecha Velma, that’s quite a bit of hubris, don’t you think?
“Don’t tell me I KNOW!”
You don’t really have a point other than your childish insults, do you?
kudos to you for your deeply thought out counter argument.
The title of this article reads “10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul” when it should read “10 REASONS TO VOTE FOR RON PAUL”…
Did you mess up the title Summer? It’s O.K. – you have time to fix it :)
You are grossly misinformed and totally illiterate in your assessment of Ron Paul. He is a strict constitutionalist and never votes against the constitution, thus every one of your ten reasons equates to you believing the constitution is wrong. There is a huge difference between believing in Liberty and equality for all people, and not believing in selective benefits for certain groups and classes of people. Learn it. You stand corrected.
I never wanted to vote for him….I saw tighty whity from the get go……
The writer may have been very enthusiastic,even to the point of exaggerating, but for the most part they are right (if you look at his voting record). His votes don’t lie but the words that come out of his mouth may just be processed for your consumption. Yes I like his stance on the war and on pot but even in the points that seem right, the devils in the details. To me, the only politics you can trust are in policy and voting records. All politicians hide the ugly bits. You can plainly see through his records that he is not following his own talking points.
His followers don’t care about his record, the believe everything he says like sheep.
… says the man with Velcro gloves..
Actually, the most vocal of his followers are quite well aware of his record. His record heavily follows his words, if you would take the time to actually analyze it in an objective manner.
Obama, on the other hand, does not have a good record. Hell, just look at his biggest campaign contributors http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638 and who received the bailout money http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/national/200904_CREDITCRISIS/recipients.html while American infrastructure crumbles.
Ron Paul’s contributors look much different: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00005906 the armed forces are the largest contributors by far, yet it’s a well-known fact that Paul wanted to shrink the military budget more than any other candidate.
If these 10 reasons were cited in an objective manner (i.e. “Ron Paul is pro-life” and not “Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights”) I would say that, for the most part, they are 10 reasons to SUPPORT the Presidential candidate.
Take, for example, affirmative action. This is reverse discrimination, so Ron Paul is right to stand up against it.
Dr. Paul does not believe that we should destroy life, whether they are still inside a womb or 35 years old… another reason to support the Congressman.
Ron Paul’s non-interventionist approach to foreign policy would actually do more to improve our global image, not erode it.
Ron Paul recognizes that our Constitution’s separation of church and state was put it in place to protect RELIGION from government, not the government from religion.
Ron Paul understands that the 2nd amendment is a Constitutional right, and so he has proposed legislation to protect it… another reason to support Dr. Paul!
Thank you for clarifying why I will NEVER vote for Ron Paul.
Agreed, Josh. All those issues (giving benefit of doubt that all are, in fact, problematic) are *trivial in comparison* to the damage being done to the nation via fractional reserve banking and a debt-founded money supply. Ron Paul could be all 10 things listed and I would still vote for him because he’s the only one trying to yank the economic problems out by the roots.
Man, you are confused. Our founding fathers were masonic deists with very little interest in mainstream / organized religion, much less government with any religious leanings. Get your facts straight.
you are a liar. nowhere does RP say hes interested in pushing a religious agenda. yes he has faith, as do atheists. atheists have FAITH that nothing came from nowhere and nowhen and created everything, even nothing remotely similar has ever been observed in the natural world. this article is embarrassingly biased and ignorant. many of the alleged points against RP are in fact reasons why i would vote for him.
Athiests do not have faith they base their ideals off science and factual occurences. If you understood mathmatics, cosmotology and not to mention quantum mechanics you would know that everything can in fact come from nothing. It is a scientifically sound statement. Creationists have faith athiesm is based off facts and actual thinking
“as do atheists. atheists have FAITH that nothing came from nowhere and nowhen and created everything, even nothing remotely similar has ever been observed in the natural world. ”
No matter what you have been told, atheist’s have no faith. The fact is that you have been told a convoluted description of something that you have absolutely no concept of – someone not relying on any being except themselves.
“someone not relying on any being except themselves.” So… faith in themselves. Sounds about right.
//If these 10 reasons were cited in an objective manner (i.e. “Ron Paul is pro-life” and not “Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights”)//
That is an objective manner.
//Take, for example, affirmative action. This is reverse discrimination, so Ron Paul is right to stand up against it.//
affirmative action was established to protect minorities from being discriminated in the work place, and in education – it’s not as much of an issue as it once was, but statistically it’s still an issue
// Dr. Paul does not believe that we should destroy life, whether they are still inside a womb or 35 years old… another reason to support the Congressman.//
your bias for what constitute valid life is noted – I hope you’re also against eating meat?
your fallacious attempt at forcing a dichotomy is also noted, there are a number of similarities alive humans have – consciousness, feeling for pain, five+ senses, the ability to reason – all of which a fetus has not developed, thereby not being a complete human
all of that said it’s still not any of your business what a woman and her doctor does – it’s not your womb, not your family, not your fetus, and not your business
//Ron Paul’s non-interventionist approach to foreign policy would actually do more to improve our global image, not erode it.//
agree – though you conveniently misconstrued the arguments above
// Ron Paul recognizes that our Constitution’s separation of church and state was put it in place to protect RELIGION from government, not the government from religion.//
no, it makes impossible for government to show favoritism – which it’s doing for the most part – though a few instances such as churches being tax free are blatantly unconstitutional
// Ron Paul understands that the 2nd amendment is a Constitutional right, and so he has proposed legislation to protect it… another reason to support Dr. Paul!//
okay – you want a gun, join a malitia – otherwise you don’t get one … simple as that
Good job, Josh. I have some problems with Ron Paul but on the big things (anti-interventionism, drug decrim, audit the Fed, etc.) he’s great.
“We should destroy life, whether they are still inside a womb or 35 years old”—IRRELEVANT. So does your god and hero Ron Paul believe the government should FORCE a woman to give birth? personal freedom and liberty my ass.
No, he doesn’t. He believes that the people should vote on whether or not their state is one that should allow a woman to get an abortion. If a state votes that it should be ok, then he is ok with it. He believes, most of all, that the government should not FORCE anyone to do anything ever.
He just believes that the States should only have BIG government.
No, he believes that WE tell the states what to do, not the state or the Federal Government telling us what to do. We vote and make the decisions. Simple as that.
Tell me how it’s reverse discrimination when I took the civil service for my city, scored #1 on the physical and written exam, was a police officer with detective creds in sexual abuse and computer crimes in another town, and I had to sue with affirmative action to get the job I was qualified for just because I’m a woman?
I’ve leaned liberal a long, long time. But I’ve never been happy with the choices. And yeah, Crazy Uncle Ron is, well, crazy. But it doesn’t mean he’s wrong. I don’t think he’s really in it to win. He wants us to hear the truth. Can you try just to listen to what he’s saying. Get a copy of the Constitution so you’ll understand what he’s saying about liberty. Yeah, he’s Christian, but he’s not that kind, you know? The judgemental ones? Like a lot of us in the South who aren’t like batsh*t crazy, you know? We have to temper our words so we don’t get disowned. So here’s the thing. We need to talk about the things we agree on and debate it civilly. It’s not the man, it’s the message. Many of us are purple rather than red or blue and we just want to get along. And we all deserve saner choices than we’re getting. So don’t vote for him, that doesn’t matter… but do you really think they’re hiding him because he doesn’t have a chance? No, he’s telling us too much. Just because he’s crazy doesn’t mean he’s not right.
Hello Summer Ludwig and blog followers.
There is ONE reason why I would not vote for Ron Paul or anyone… doing so is a crime according to section 2 of the 14th Amendment. By voting, you commit treason against your rightful (lawful) government. I guess they never taught you that in school. So naturally, I will not be voting. http://www.pacinlaw.org/error/
Okay, I have viewed your 10 reasons and found every premise of yours flawed and/or lacking merit.
1. I feel you do not understand what “rights” really are or where they come from. “Minorities” should NOT have any more or less rights than another. Who is to say that I am not a minority? If you understand the statement that all men(women) are created equal, then you would not be beating the dead horse with racist propaganda. Do you understand what a “US citizen” is? I urge you to find out because I believe that you do not understand the scope of that status of body politic. http://www.pacinlaw.org/pdf/US_Citizen_Examined.php
2. You attempt to defy natural law and say it is okay to murder. Women do have control over their body… to screw or not to screw. Just because they make an unwise choice doesn’t mean it is alright for them to make another wrong decision. You want to talk about rights… what about the rights of that child? Life is a right! You want to argue for “human rights” but then deny them to a baby because you feel that a fetus is not a living being. I call that kind of thought hypocritical… contradictory in the least.
3. Abolish minimum wage and get rid of OSHA? Wow, that would be a nice start. Your support for these federal oversights suggest to me that you support communism. Am I being too blunt? Although ideally a work place should be safe, you still have the choice of whether or not to work there. Also, you can do your part to maintain safety without being threatened or under duress. Have you ever worked in the field? Don’t you know the impact on the cost of insurance due to OSHA and other force agencies. Guess what? Your $10,000 bid on a job just went up to $30,000. Who again is this helping?
4. Probably the worst of your examples yet. 10% tax… that’s better than the 30-40% currently taken out(not including other taxes, fees, etc.) yet you claim that is bad. Ideally, 0% would be best. Earned income credit = theft. You get something for nothing but someone else down the line pays for it. Okay, your premise supports theft. Government taxation is theft, but somehow they can legally do so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vuz-hFKM_Ts
5. I have no problem with off-shore drilling. Of course any company that does so should do so in a manner to prevent spills. I support alternative fuel sources… but mainly, I would love to destroy the government’s monopoly on energy altogether. Mining on Federal lands… do you even know what Federal lands are? There isn’t much federal land unless you believed in their fairy tales. If DC wants to control energy, then let the drilling/mining start in DC!
6. Okay, I get it… you support the United Nations. You support a one world government (also referred to as NWO). The united states/republics of America should NOT be a part of any United Nations. You talk of international law as if you know what it is. Heck, you don’t even know that the “United States” is NOT a country. It is a few things (corporation being one), but a country, in itself, it is not.
7. The government should not be in the business of providing permission for marriage period! It all comes down to greed. What are they (alternative lifestyles) really fighting for? Benefits! If it was just about being with someone you like, then go do it and be happy. But no, the de facto government has to entice people with benefits. Even for those who are religious let me remind you that a marriage via a license is NOT the same as Holy matrimony in the eyes of God. There is a reason why marriage is between a man and a woman. What next? A man can marry a horse and a woman can marry a cat? Once you start down that distorted, perverted road, it opens the door for anything no matter how ridiculous it may sound. http://hisholychurch.info/study/bklt/matrimony.pdf
8. Common sense… guns don’t kill people. Bad people use guns to kill people. You could have a law to get rid of all guns tomorrow, but do you think the criminals would obey that law? Excuse me for being rude, but don’t be such an idiot! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngsKzdKNAmo
I don’t love guns, but I do realize that criminals will use whatever means they can no matter what legal man-law is created. Sorry, but I don’t care to be overrun by a Nazi-wannabe government.
9. Educational system… not sure why they call it that since it is really an indoctrination system. They are not into providing truth and knowledge through wisdom. I advocate home schooling, though I know it is difficult because of how the system operates. So the problem must be the system. If you haven’t figured out by now that you are a slave, then let it be known that you have now been notified. Not that I endorse this site, but look at #10: http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html
10. Of course you would disagree with Ron Paul’s positions. Obviously, you are not a man/woman of faith so you disregard any notion that there is an attack on religion especially Christianity. Well, I have news for you. Christianity has always been under attack, but it has become more apparent now in the American States. So far from your arguments I have gathered that you support murder, theft, governmental collectivism (not a convenantal union of a Church body), and slavery. I am severely questioning your moral compass. I can define what “good” and “just” are, can you?
In closing, I am NOT voting due to having the knowledge and understanding of what that action really is. I do NOT give consent to relinquishing my natural rights nor do I contract with those whom wish to place me into their jurisdiction. http://www.pacinlaw.org/dual/
Peace be with you all.
Summer, I enjoyed your post for the most part. My only concern is your statements made during number eight, the gun control section. First, let me say that your conclusion isn’t wrong. He is a first class douchebag, but your argument focused on the typical view that scary guns with a lot of bullets are bad for society. That argument is why gun control advocates are losing ground all around the country. I’d be glad to discuss that point with you further if you’d like.
Anyway, the reason he’s a real asshole re: gun rights is that he wanted to take away the mandatory background checks for guns. Even mega-political groups like the NRA claim they don’t want former violent criminals or mentally unstable citizens to possess guns, but they support the repeal of acts that make an honest effort to keep guns from unfit people.
There are real reasons why he’s been backing the wrong laws for decades. Please mention those reasons in the future. I’d be glad to help you.
I’m not voting for Paul.. OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
YOUR ALL STUPID!
If ‘YOU’RE’ going to post messages which call people stupid, it might be a good idea to check ‘YOUR’ spelling and/or grammar a bit more carefully in the future. You don’t want to come of like some ignorant, hypocritical Klansman from the days of ‘YORE’ do you?
“You don’t want to come OFF like some ignorant…” Aw poop, I just did exactly what i’m berating the other guy for!
Leaving off an “F” at the end of a word isn’t the same as using the incorrect “YOU’RE / YOUR / YORE”. Sorry, it’s just not.
So… Ron Paul says he doesn’t like Gay Marriage, Abortion, Drugs, etc. But Has said if a state wants to make them legal, he would have no problem with it.
By that statement, he stands equal with Obama on Gay Marriage rights. He would be more accepting of Abortion rights. And FAR more accepting of Drug rights.
Tell me if I’m wrong?
no kevin your right, obama had his chance, focused on healthcare instead of the economy, and failed alot of his campaign promises but with paul even though he is republican he has some radical ideas that the left likes i say we give him a shot at it and if he does anything thats too far right it wont succeed just like oabamas too far left healthcare
I say we don’t give him a shot. We can do better.
We can do better with Who … Obama more empty promises and lies more war mongering ..no thank you
Bachman/Perry/Romney the so right and tight religious freaks that want to censor and sanitize everything aka The Pledge! more hate mongering in those 3 alone than the last 2 republican presidents.
I may not agree with everything Dr.Paul says and does, but lets be honest here at least he says something so down the middle it scares both sides of the fence and even some way out in left field for that matter as well. Why is it no major news network will give the man his due and acknowledge what a very large portion of Americans are saying …because if they did, then their wet Dream candidates would be less likely than ever to have a fighting chance. “Shut down our borders bring our men and women home and stop worrying about everyone else s problems.” Anyone remember the old saying Mind your business and stay out of others ….That’s what he is saying Uncle Sam has way too much say in our lives.
Do i agree on his stances on social security and medicare no but at 35 years old we’ve been warned for years it will not be there for us(my generation) when we need it, yet the govt. currently and consistently draws a loan from my paycheck in poor faith by saying it’s for my future… Women’s right to choose hell yes pro choice I say stop the tax payer funding of abortion though you want one pay full price out side of extenuating circumstances rape health concerns and so on. I’m an aiethiest in some peoples eyes because i believe there is something greater out there but i refuse to admit it has power over my choices if he wants to be christian Muslim, Mennonite Mormon Jewish or Wicca i could care less just understand i choose not to share all of your same beliefs …
the way I am seeing it of all the evils in politics these days Dr.Paul is the least of all so he gets my vote and if i can vote 4-5 times extra here in Florida if Jesse Ventura is running mate i will vote even more for him
Yeah but how can you trust someone who believes theres a magic being in the sky who controls everything?
This list is pretty damning, but I would still chose Ron Paul in the current lineup, and a corporate shill like o;bummer is even worse than all the crazy conservatives. But then I’m just an amused observer from europe.
Yeah? Like who?
have to disagree on abortion rights…he is a signer of the Susan B Anthony pledge. If you are not familiar… http://www.sba-list.org/2012pledge
He has also signed the pledge to Grover Norquist. Correct me if I am wrong. Should our representatives be making oaths to anyone but their country and their constituents?
Leaving it to the states makes Paul a tenther, not a libertarian. To a libertarian, matters of individual liberty (like gay marriage, and drugs) are not properly matters on which any level of government can legislate. They are matters of PERSSONAL choice.