You Might Be A Conservative If…

Author: January 14, 2012 1:00 pm
You might be a conservative if... (spoof on American Gothic painting)

You might be a conservative if you believe any of the things on this list. A humorous, albeit realistic look at how conservatives think. Image a parody of Grant Wood’s classic painting, “American Gothic.”

Are you a conservative?

Are you a conservative? You might be if you believe any of the things on this list. Read on and see.

1: You might be a conservative if you’re irate over the president taking so many vacation days on the taxpayer’s dime (61 thus far), but you thought George W. Bush earned every minute of his leisure time (196 days at the same point in his presidency).

2: You’re happy with your 40 hour work week, paid vacations and company-provided healthcare, but you’re strongly anti-union, because those commies haven’t done anything for you lately.

3: You might be a conservative if you strongly support the First Amendment and its guarantee of religious freedom to all, but you don’t think Muslims have a right to build an Islamic Community Center in Manhattan.

4: You believe Ronald Reagan was a devout Christian, even though he hated going to church, but any president who spends twenty years going to the same Trinity United Church in Chicago must be a Muslim.

5: You might be a conservative if you believe that when a Republican governor creates a healthcare package with an individual mandate for everyone in his state, that’s a good idea. But when a Democratic president does it, suddenly it’s unconstitutional.

6: You’re so enthused about demonstrating your Second Amendment rights, you can think of no finer place to brandish your pistol in public than at a presidential rally.

7: You might be a conservative if you believe Bill Clinton was responsible for Osama bin Laden’s escape ten years ago, but thankfully George W. Bush caught up with him and killed him in Pakistan.

8: You believe in putting American jobs first, except when president Obama rescued 1.5 million GM and Chrysler autoworkers, because that was socialism.

9: You might be a conservative if it angers you that you can’t communicate with the Mexican busboy at your local Olive Garden, but when you took a vacation to San Francisco’s Chinatown, you thought it’s quaint that so many Chinese-Americans are holding fast to their traditional language. Because that’s America!

10: You deny that the lunatic who tried to murder Gaby Giffords was a conservative, even though he targeted a Jewish, pro-choice, pro gay rights, Democratic Congresswoman.

11: You You might be a conservative if you thought it was perfectly normal that every president in history had an untethered right to raise the debt ceiling when warranted, but when Obama asked the GOP held congress to do it, you thought it only natural that it be tied to cutting Social Security and Medicare.

12: When the new 112th Congress was sworn in, you swooned as they promised to focus on “Jobs, jobs, jobs.” But when they pivoted, and went after NPR, Planned Parenthood and gay rights, you cheered.

13: You might be a conservative if you accuse president Obama of raising your taxes to the highest point ever, even though they’re lower today than at any time since 1950.

14: You believe the wealthiest Americans are “job creators,” and they are — but it doesn’t bother you that all the workers in those positions are in India, China and Malaysia, and they’re doing the jobs that our fathers once did.

15: You might be a conservative if you believe gays are anti-American, because their lifestyle is a threat to the children… unless they’re married to Tea Party-backed presidential candidates from Minnesota.

16: You strongly defend individual freedom, but that freedom doesn’t include a woman’s right to decide her own healthcare needs.

17: You might be a conservative if you believe corporations are people too, and are deserving of the same rights as the rest of us. Just not the same obligations to pay personal income tax free of corporate loopholes, or penalties for massive criminal behavior and tax evasion. In these matters, corporations are deserving of special rights.

18: And since corporations are now people too, you must believe in their right to a driver’s license, the right to marry, to adopt children, etc. These rights shall not be denied to Exxon, Halliburton and BP (but still immune from the right of the People to try, convict and sentence to death any corporation that conspires to commit a felony… because at that point, they’re suddenly not people again.)

19: You might be a conservative if you still believe Climate Change is a myth, and the recent record highs, lows, floods and droughts around the world coinciding with climate scientist’s predictions are all an amazing coincidence. Oh, and Al Gore is FAT!

20: You believe when George W. Bush took the national debt from $5 trillion to $11 trillion, it was necessary for him to do so to keep America safe. But when Barack Obama added to it by trying to rescue the country from a second Great Depression, he was deliberately trying to destroy America!

21: You might be a conservative if you believe America is a God fearing country, and that the Almighty protects those who believe just as you do. But it’s never crossed your mind that the majority of tornados, hurricanes and floods all occur in the Bible Belt.

22: You believe that no matter who’s in the White House, the office, if not the man himself is deserving of your respect. The only exceptions to this rule, are if his middle name sounds Muslim, and if he’s not at least as white as that black guy who works down in the mailroom at the office.

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  • I’ll take a swipe at this.

    1) Would love to see your source for this. Admittedly, I’ve never understood people whining about the President taking a “vacation”. For any President, that just means he gets to work from someplace with a prettier view.

    2) The irony is that unions, which once served an incredibly valuable purpose in the industrial age, are bordering on counterproductive in the post-industrial age. They’re not fighting for rights, they’re usually fighting for a benefits package that reduces their responsibilities and increases their pay. Ask the French about how well unions and strikes are working out for their economy. Perhaps the teacher’s unions, who will go out of their way to protect incompetent and even criminally culpable teachers, are your pet. I imagine it’s their unwavering support for Democratic candidates that makes you grin. Either way, I run my own business, and the 80 hour work weeks are AWESOME.

    3) There’s a difference between believing someone doesn’t have the right to do something, and believing that it’s a terrible idea. Setting up an Islamic Community Center just around the corner from Ground Zero is perfectly within 1st Amendment protection…it’s just a horrible idea.

    4) Ronald Reagan was an ACTOR. From California. I don’t know of any conservative who points to Reagan as a pillar of anything related to faith. Or anything related to being conservative. But this won’t be the first time you use a blue state Republican, will it?

    5) Really? You’re going to try to use Mitt Romney to support your argument? After calling a presidency run by the same guy you just implicitly compared to Obama as “unthinkable”? And, yet again, Romney is a blue-state Republican. There’s a reason he didn’t exactly fire up the conservative base.

    6) Yeah, all us NRA members are just gun-toting nutjobs…except the average NRA member is more educated on the law and notably more persuasive than any liberal counterpart. That’s why the NRA keeps winning. Folks like you talk about caring. NRA members actually give a damn, and they back it up with action. Here’s an article laying out the details: http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyshowalter/2013/05/16/five-reasons-the-nra-won-the-recent-gun-control-debate-that-have-nothing-to-do-with-politics/

    7) You believe that every decision made by Bush w/r/t the War on Terror was evil (Gitmo, drone strikes, etc) but the fact that Obama has continued the wide majority of those? That’s just common sense.

    8) Most conservatives believe in a free market economy. Better than 90% of those workers whose jobs he saved were and still are active democrats. Remember point 1 about unions? But don’t let facts get in your way.

    9) Yeah, 30+ million Spanish speakers vs. about 70,000 in the most liberal city in America…that’s the same. Good analogy.

    10) They do deny that. Because he was just a flat-out lunatic. People who knew him described him as being either independent and deeply paranoid about the government or (gasp) a fervent liberal. Again, don’t let facts get in your way.

    …I’ll get to the rest later. Maybe. I don’t know. I’ll skip to 15, because it’s really good:

    15) As liberals, we don’t believe in slander, offensive labels, or inequality…unless it suits us. Then fuck those bible-thumping, gun-toting, neanderthals!

  • The problem is that there really is very little difference between the two parties. This means to find a difference it becomes personal.

    The “Conservatives” of today were once radicals of the past.

    People have to remember that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. Richard Nixon started the EPA and increased Medicare as well as brought China into the UN. He did warn his party to “beware of the religious right taking over the party”. Sadly they did not listen.

    President Eisenhower when he left office warned his party “do not let the military and industry take over the economy” sadly they did not listen.

    The conservatives today are happy to point out the foibles of President Obama but need to take a good look at themselves. They have changed. They are not the same party of Lincoln. They have a shameful recent history of civil rights, Women’s rights and have no tolerance for gays or abortion.

    As to the economy, only the most foolish or a complete liar would claim that President George W Bush left the nation in better or the same shape he found it in. Or that the republicans in congress did not fully approve President Obama’s bail out of wall street. And of course the wall street billionaires that feed the Tea Party today are not sorry either.

  • Some of the comments about this are hilarious.
    More 3rd grade argument skills on display by baggers. “Nuh Uh ! You Lie!I know liberals are, but what am I?!”

    Then there are the so called sensible conservatives pleading. It’s time for us to all come together now. Now’s not the time for division. The us vs them mentality is just not helpful.

    You guys should have sent THAT message to the leaders of your own party back in 2009. Too late now. Despite what your repub leaders tell you, you can’t change the rules in the middle of the game just because it looks like you’re gonna lose. The us vs them mentality isn’t helpful to you conservatives anymore … but it seems to be working just fine for us liberals. I think we’re gonna stick with it through November at least.

    The conservos stood by and let their leaders go shithouse in Washington for 3 years without saying a word. And NOW they want us to play nice because they know they’re facing mass casualties in November. Sorry .. We want blood. And YOU conservos are gonna give it. Your ideology is history that belongs in the last century. There’s no place for it in America’s future. And your beloved repub party is also going away forever! You can take a crying towel with you on the way out!

  • Michael Siever

    You might be a Conservative if in 2008, you dismissed *that* guy’s sign, that read “9/11 was an inside job committed by the Bush Administration”, as “garbage”, and he was just another “nutjob that nobody should listen to”, and today, that same guy is holding up a sign that says “Barack Obama was born in Kenya, raised in Indonesia, his real name is ‘Barry Soetoro’, he is not a United States citizen, and is unconstitutionally holding the Office of the President of the United States”, to which you say “This bright man speaks the truth! We must get this Manchurian Candidate out of office right now!”

  • You might be a Conservative if you wouldn’t have let your own ancestors into the country.

  • You’d have to be a Liberal if:

    You are fuzzy on the Constitution
    and
    You actually equate the above to Conservatives

    Don’t worry – we’ll bail you out again.

    • Bruce Lindner

      Explain that, “Yup,” what was fuzzy regarding the Constitution?

    • You’ll bail us out?

      You have that backward. It’s the Liberals and the rest of the country who had to bail us all out because the Right wing, the Conservatives and the bankers and corporations nearly took the nation–and world–down the toilet, thanks very much.

  • It’s funny, but it’s also smack on true and that’s sobering.

    • What’s sobering is that there are actually people who believe claims like the one you just made.

      Every single one of 22 claims is a lie about conservatives–and not just dishonest, but a ~dopey~ lie.

      • Bruce Lindner

        Well Chief, I noticed you didn’t actually refute anything I wrote specifically. You just laid out a blanket statement accusing me of telling 22 consecutive lies. Why not be a good redneck, and show me what you’re made of? Knock ‘em down for me, if you think you can. Take all the time you need.

      • You might be a conservative if you believe that you create truth with the words out of your own mouth, whatever they may be, and that anyone who questions that truth is deserving of the smackdown, because that’s the way it’s always been in America.

  • Re-check your history book on the enormity of the devastation left by the Nazis. Nearly six million Jews were murdered. The total body count was much, much higher.

  • RE:19 – They MIGHT have a point there. Al Gore has gotten a bit chubby.

  • The list is great! Number 15 was a bit harsh, even for this die-hard liberal. I don’t think it’s appropriate to paint a certain GOP potential nominee’s husband as “gay,” just because he acts like it and has such an animosity to gay folks… Maybe a re-write: “You believe gays are anti-American, because their lifestyle is a threat to the children… The bigger threat is all these straight couples who keep having gay children” or something like that…

    • Well, Kate, you do have a point, about #15, so far as we know, Mr Bachman is not a practicing gay, and definitely not an “out” gay,
      but he’s still definitely gay, to the max, sets off gaydar immediately.
      so,
      since the GOP doesn’t acknowledge Mr. Bachman’s gayness, the point the article makes *is* a lil wobbly there…

    • Not out now but time will tell. Some things are inevitable.

  • Yes yes, they now can exonerate themselves for being racists, because 20% of Republican voters favor Herman Cain, a black man who hates other black people as much as they do, and says all the things about black people they wish they could get away with saying publicly. “SEE, we’re not racists, we like the black guy! Forget the seas of illiterate racist signs at our teabagger rallies; we love the guy with the black skin, who calls black people “brainwashed and stupid! SEE!” There is nothing “fresh” or interesting about Herman Cain. He’s just another proletariat, spewing the same supply-side nonsense and bad ideas, which got us into the economic morass in which we now find ourselves. We aren’t in this mess because of too many regulations, but because there are too FEW regulations. I honor and admire the poster for taking the time to redress the “points” made by the irrational right wing-nut dope, and I considered doing so myself, until I got to point 4, when I realized I wasn’t addressing an actual person, but was futilely banging my head against Glenn Beck’s chalkboard. As someone who has spent my life studying history, both formally and on my own, as soon as someone invokes the “Nazi” argument, I’m done trying to reason with that person. Comparing ANY American leader of movement, left or right, to the Nazi regime, which annihilated over 6 million human beings is both intellectually dishonest and ignorant to the point of very real danger. Historical revisionism is in fact dangerous, because as humans, we tend to repeat our own shameful human history, so to diminish the worst atrocities in such a glib way, shows a lack of the fear and shock we should all feel over the genocidal intentions of the Third Reich. Also, did anyone notice, he claimed he was both a member of the armed services and a member of a union? When has anyone ever heard of a soldier’s union? Also, I love how they sob about the incivility of the left, as they rant and spew the most uncivil, ruthless drivel imaginable. What did he expect in response to his foolish rant, full of insults and vulgarity? Hats off to those of you who remained civil to him. My response to his sophomoric, prolixic, feckless rant, a big FUCK YOU! Succinct, to the point, and not wasting the time to legitimize a single of his boorish propaganda points. Ironically, we liberals whom he so despises, are fighting for him too. Hopefully someday he’ll wake up and realize that and thank us, but I suspect he’d too addled in gay-hate and his mighty mighty fetus defending to understand he is indeed part of the 99% and not the 1% who are screwing him the same as the rest of us. The right wing media has been prolific and successful in teaching low-information voters to fear and despise the poor and powerless and not the elite and powerful, who are in fact taking this Republic down, as they watch and then they’ll blame it on gays and abortion; they’re idiots, and it would be laughable, if their votes were not weighted the same as mine.

  • I know he’ll never see it and this is an old, but I just gotta comment on how the right ALWAYS mentions Ruby Ridge and puts it under Clinton. It was George Bush, the daddy. For goddess’sake will you right wingers FINALLY get that through your heads?!

  • (per your 17 and 18 “corporations are now people too” points):

    Democratic Underground just posted a sign’s message seen on a vehicle.

    “I’ll believe a corporation is a person only after Texas executes one.”

    …or something like that.

  • ” Although Kenneth Gladney could have used one when he was beaten by union thugs at a town hall meeting for giving out Don’t Tread on Me flags”.

    I watched the video of that “beating” over and over.

    Here is what happened.

    The guy holding the camera notices a scuffle and points his camera at the action. Elapsed time, maybe two seconds.

    You see a Union guy lying on the ground holding his arm; somebody shoved him hard enough to knock him off his feet and he landed on his left arm.

    Two other guys are wrestling with a third guy, trying to grab him but not hitting him.

    About two seconds later Kenneth Gladney falls to the ground. Fox commentators claimed Gladney was beaten and then kicked in the ribs when he was down.

    But the video shows Gladney was on the ground less than two seconds and nobody kicked him even once.

    After he gets back up the cops arrive and Gladney starts threatening lawsuits.

    We have no video record of the first blow. But given that the Union member was on the ground, and went to the hospital, it doesn’t look like Gladney is an innocent victim.

    Gladney was at a Tea Party meeting the next day and was not admitted to the hospital. He was checked over and left.

    Next thing you know he’s in a wheelchair and a neck brace…

    This was not a Tea Party meeting. It was a Progressive meeting.

    Tell me, if a Progressive was passing out Obama ’12 t-shirts outside a Tea Party Rally, would you think he was there to make trouble and start something ?

    If there was a scuffle, would you blame the Tea Party members for starting it ?

    Now, when people use the term “beating”, I think of Rodney King. Serious, life threatening injuries.

    A scuffle where two people fall down is not a beating.

    And since Gladney may have deliberately started the scuffle to get on the news … you should probably avoid using him as a cult hero.

  • I read that whole thing, I want to know if you people are nuts, all of you need to go have a lot of drinks and get lost in the woods.

  • Nice list, but you might want to add a warning notice to conservative stumblers that reading this post could cause spontaneous head explosions.

    Also, like the weak tea rebuttals. The mental contortions that one has to perform to keep the conservative mindset in place is indeed impressive.

  • These are all exaggerated claims that come from a nugget of truth. The author was simply finding humor in the grave mistakes and ideas that are a great part of the republican platform. Yes, it’s generalizing, but it’s satire. It doesn’t mean the author, or those who enjoyed it, believe these things of all republicans. And it doesn’t make them bigoted or presumptuous. It means they’re angry at seeing these issues brought up day after day, and instead of blowing a fuse, they decided to turn it into a joke. Those carrying on about how prejudiced this is need to take a chill pill. It was meant to be funny, and bring up real problems. And it did just that.

    -Sam (www.thecrazyleft.com)

  • 1. You’re irate over the president taking so many vacation days on the taxpayer’s dime (61 thus far), but you thought George W. Bush earned every minute of his leisure time (196 days at the same point in his presidency).
    The Chosen One has taken vacations and golfed when the country is in crisis. Although I’m, not a big Bush fan, he stopped golfing shortly after 911 and the war started. Not only that, the queen has taken vacations on the country’s dime, including his and her jets to the vineyard this time around.

    2. You’re happy with your 40 hour work week, paid vacations and company-provided healthcare, but you’re strongly anti-union, because those commies haven’t done anything for you lately.
    Most people don’t hate unions and are very appreciative of what they’ve done over the years. The fact is, today, unions are just another arm of the Democratic Party, taking their members dues and supporting leftist policies while the union bosses drive around in limos and dine with the political elite. I’m a member of a union. I know.

    3. You strongly support the First Amendment and it’s guarantee of religious freedom to all, but you don’t think Muslims have a right to build an Islamic Community Center in Manhattan.
    All conservatives support the 1st amendment, it is the left that tries to limit speech (political correctness), the press (sorry FOX, you don’t tow the white house line so no interviews for you), religion (you may not pray in school if you’re a Christian, but you may bow to Mecca or wear a burca), and the right to petition the government (sorry no freedom of information if it concerns the president’s birth certificate). Of course most liberals don’t even know what is included in the 1st amendment. As for the mosque. Most of us agree they have a right to build it, but it’s just a bad idea.

    4. You believe Ronald Reagan was a devout Christian, even though he hated going to church, but any president who spends twenty years going to the same Trinity United Church in Chicago must be a Muslim.
    While I’ve never heard anyone claim Regan was a devote Christian, the left have been deniers of the funding fathers deep religious beliefs which shaped the constitution. The Chosen One a Muslim? Probably not, I think he has no beliefs other than his belief that he is always right. All those years at the Trinity United Church doesn’t make him a Christian. It makes him an American hating racist

    5. You believe when a Republican governor creates a healthcare package with an individual mandate for everyone in his state, that’s a good idea. But when a Democratic president does it, suddenly it’s unconstitutional.
    Really? I don’t know ANY conservative that thinks Romney care is a good idea. That’s the reason the left wants Romney Vs the Chosen One. One crappy plan Vs another and it’s a wash in the election.

    6. You’re so enthused about demonstrating your Second Amendment rights, you can think of no finer place to brandish your pistol in public than at a presidential rally.
    The second amendment guarantees citizens the right to keep and bear arms. Taking to any kind of weapon rally is not a good idea, but are you saying no liberal has ever taken one to one? Although Kenneth Gladney could have used one when he was beaten by union thugs at a town hall meeting for giving out Don’t Tread on Me flags”.

    7. You believe Bill Clinton was responsible for Osama bin Laden’s escape ten years ago, but thankfully George W. Bush caught up with him and killed him in Pakistan.
    Bill Clinton did let OBL escape 10 years ago. He also allowed the USS Cole, the Kohbar towers and the World Trade Center to be bombed with no response. He gutted the military and the intelligence community resulting in 911. Our military killed OBL, not the Chosen One. On ya, Clinton’s justice department killed American citizens in Waco and on Ruby ridge.

    8. You believe in putting American jobs first, except when president Obama rescued 1.5 million GM and Chrysler autoworkers, because that was socialism.
    GM is losing money hand over fist, as is Chrysler. Ford, who took no money, is leading the American auto industry. Enough said.

    9. It angers you that you can’t communicate with the Mexican busboy at your local Olive Garden, but when you took a vacation to San Francisco’s Chinatown, you thought it’s quaint that so many Chinese-Americans are holding fast to their traditional language. Because that’s America!
    How many of the Chinese in that restaurant came to this country illegally? How many are on public assistance? How many can speak or are trying to learn English? What is their graduation rate and how many go on to higher learning? How many drive without a license?

    10. You deny that the lunatic who tried to murder Gaby Giffords was a conservative, even though he targeted a Jewish, pro-choice, pro gay rights, Democratic Congresswoman.
    Trying to call the nutjob that shot Gabby Giffords a conservative shows how twisted, how racist and f**ked in the head liberals are. Are you really saying that if you shoot a liberal you are automatically a conservative? If you shoot a Jewish person you’re a conservative? If you shoot a pro-choice person you’re a conservative? So if you kill a black man you’re a racist then. Oh but wait, most African Americans are killed by…other African Americans. The entire sentence on your list makes me sick.

    11. You thought it was perfectly normal that every president in history had an untethered right to raise the debt ceiling when warranted, but when Obama asked the GOP held congress to do it, you thought it only natural that it be tied to cutting Social Security and Medicare.
    Most conservatives have never supported raising the debt limit. And ya, when the Chosen One increases the debt by trillions in 2 years it’s time to make cuts.

    12. When the new 112th Congress was sworn in, you swooned as they promised to focus on “Jobs, jobs, jobs.” But when they pivoted, and went after NPR, Planned Parenthood and gay rights, you cheered.
    What jobs jobs jobs are you talking about in this one? NPR and PP are not job creators. They are debt creators and political organizations. If they want to exist, do it like every other true business and do it on your own without government dollars.

    13. You accuse president Obama of raising your taxes to the highest point ever, even though they’re lower today than at any time since 1950.
    Taxes are at the lowest since 1950? Check again. Regan took the top bracket down to 28%. Hmm..think that was after 1950.

    14. You believe the wealthiest Americans are “job creators,” and they are — but it doesn’t bother you that all the workers in those positions are in India, China and Malaysia, and they’re doing the jobs that our fathers once did.
    The reason jobs are going to India, China and elsewhere is because of the government regulations that force the cost of employing people here through the roof.

    15. You believe gays are anti-American, because their lifestyle is a threat to the children… unless they’re married to Tea Party-backed presidential candidates from Minnesota.Conservatives don’t think gays are anti-American.
    Many disagree with their lifestyle and do not want it taught in schools. But of course if you ever disagree with a liberal you’re a racist, homophobe or just plain ignorant.

    16. You strongly defend individual freedom, but that freedom doesn’t include a woman’s right to decide her own healthcare needs.
    Women need to address their healthcare needs before becoming pregnant. Most Americans like to think the child should at least be considered before killing it.
    17. You believe corporations are people too, and are deserving of the same rights as the rest of us. Just not the same obligations to pay personal income tax free of corporate loopholes, or penalties for massive criminal behavior and tax evasion. In these matters, corporations are deserving of special rights.
    Guess what, a corporation isn’t a living, breathing monster. It’s a way of running a business. Businesses create jobs. If you want jobs you have to make it profitable to run your business. Government get out of the way.

    18. And since corporations are now people too, you must believe in their right to a driver’s license, the right to marry, to adopt children, etc. These rights shall not be denied to Exxon, Halliburton and BP (but still immune from the right of the People to try, convict and sentence to death any corporation that conspires to commit a felony… because at that point, they’re suddenly not people again.)
    See number 17 you f**king moron.

    19. You still believe Climate Change is a myth, and the recent record highs, lows, floods and droughts around the world coinciding with climate scientist’s predictions are all an amazing coincidence. Oh, and Al Gore is FAT!
    You actually believe in man made global warming? Still? When the country was going through record cold spells and snow storms it was “weather, not climate”. But a heat wave, in July, is Global Warming..oh excuse me, Climate Change. What are you going to call it next? “The I hate the planet if I don’t but your BS global temperature change thingy?” Again, the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit scandal showed this for the scam and hoax that is Global Warming. But you’ve never read or heard about that, right?

    20. You believe when George W. Bush took the national debt from $5 trillion to $11 trillion, it was necessary for him to do so to keep America safe. But when Barack Obama added to it by trying to rescue the country from a second Great Depression, he was deliberately trying to destroy America!
    And Bush didn’t keep America safe? Cuts should have been made. Illegal Immigration should have been put under control. Welfare should have been reformed and a host of other things should have been done when he had the chance. The Chosen One is only feathering his and his crony’s nest and as anyone can see, his “debt to save us from the great depression” has worked soooooo well.

    21. You believe America is a God fearing country, and that the Almighty protects those who believe just as you do. But it’s never crossed your mind that the majority of tornados, hurricanes and floods all occur in the Bible Belt.
    Hating people with strong religious beliefs is typical of liberals. Taking pleasure in the suffering of fellow Americans because they don’t agree with you is sick. The Nazis were like that too. You know, that National SOCIALIST Party from a few years back?.

    22. You believe that no matter who’s in the White House, the office, if not the man himself is deserving of your respect. The only exceptions to this rule, are if his middle name sounds Muslim, and if he’s not at least as white as that black guy who works down in the mailroom at the office.
    There it is. When I liberal can’t make a point on the facts, throw the race card. If you disagree with the Chosen One, you’re racist. But if over 90% of African American votes for the black candidate, that’s????? Conservatives don’t oppose of the Chosen One because he’s black. They oppose him because he’s and empty suit, moron, racist, American hating Marxist.

    • Mike, I hope you don’t mind, but considering all the effort you went to to respond to my article, I just have to share it with my equally America-hating friends. You’re good with that, right?

      And while I’m willing to give you an “A” for effort, I won’t be responding to your revised list at this time (I mean, what would be the point? You showed me).

      I do have one request of you however; would it be possible for you to share my article with other Notamoonbats you blog with? You’re the first one to show up here with anything approaching an intelligent argument, and I welcome others. Would you please?

      I suspect some of my friends might want to address your rebuttal, but I’ll be taking a pass for now. Thanks for playing our game though! :)

      • Not a problem at all, I’ve already passed it on. I understand what you were doing, and I don’t think you hate America. The sad truth is, there are people who think like that, and will pass it on in talking points and on blogs as fact. I don’t agree with extremists on either side. Yes I am conservative, but I am an American first. Throwing out intellectual bombs from the left or right, and especially when the facts don’t prove them out, will never allow this country to get back on the path it needs to be on. I dolook forward to seeing some of the comments from your left leaning readers. Will they answer with facts or vitriol? One last note. I’m really not a blogger. I do add my thoughts from time to time on blogs but not with any kind of frequency.

        • That’s great! I like to “mix it up” every once in a while… you know, just to clear the air.

          Keep a couple of things in mind Mike: this article is clearly satire. Yes, it’s fact based (though you obviously don’t think so), but it was written as 1/3 information, and 2/3 entertainment.

          I can’t say for sure how others might respond to your post, but I’m willing to bet that any “vitriol” that you might see will be less incendiary than you might expect.

          Oh, and we don’t refer to the president as “the Chosen One.” That was a label that Sean Hannity came up with to mock him. It’s unfortunate that so many of Sean’s minions keep repeating it, but that’s the nature of the right-wing echo chamber… Hear it, say it, repeat it. Much like your assertion that the Nazis were leftists.

          Just say the word Mike, and I’ll walk you through that too. Hitler was a fascist; the ultra right-wing of the political spectrum. Socialism was stricken from the Nazi party during the Night of the Long Knives, when Hitler had every leftist in the party arrested, deported, or murdered.

          Awkward, huh? Sean Hannity never mentions that. :)

          • Thanks for the history lesson but I’m aware of the history of the Nazis. True, Hitler was a fascist and a tyrant, but that is how all socialist/Marxist/communist regimes end up. The National Socialist Party played to the starving people of Germany. National Socialism would bring them out of the ashes of WWI. Like the Soviet Union, Red China, North Korea, and Cuba, the final destination of any state, that seeks to deny personal freedom for the betterment of the collective good, is fascism.

            As for the term “the chosen one,” I probably did hear it from Hannity. That’s hard to say because I don’t listen to him very often. Using that term was more of a choice because as a member of the armed forces of this country, calling him by name, in a forum such as this, could have unfortunate consequences for me. Besides, it’s what most of my coworkers call him. That and Jesus 2.0.

            Making a statement like that, “conservative echo chamber”, only reveals the elitism of the left. Of course we couldn’t think of that on our own. We’s ain’t so smart as yuse collage ed-ju-ma-cated folks.

            Believe it or not, conservatives have their own thoughts and opinions. Unlike the liberal press and far left drones.

            • Would you mind clarifying this for me: “True, Hitler was a fascist and a tyrant, but that is how all socialist/Marxist/communist regimes end up.”

              So, you’re claiming that since Hitler originally permitted a coalition government that included a tiny faction of socialists, then all governments that do so, end up leaning towards tyranny? You mean like Norway, Israel, France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Italy etc. are today?

              Help a dude out here Mike, I’m just a confused liberal, and this comment isn’t registering. Either that, or I just have to watch a little more Glenn Beck & Hannity before it gels.

              • I’m enjoying reading how little by little your comments reveal more and more of your true feelings as they seep into your posts. It’s boilerplate liberalism.

                First you “compliment” my post by damning me with feint praise. Oh course I’m not smart enough to understand what you were doing.

                But when I don’t take the bait and respond with facts and a more in depth explanation of my statements, you respond by picking one statement, oh and surprise surprise, the one statement with the word NAZI in it, to hopefully steer the conversation away from the numerous valid points I made in my original reply to your list.

                That not being enough to neutralize my opinion, you then try to invalidate my very ideas by accusing me of being a brainless, parroting, drone of the likes of Hannity, Beck and Linbaugh. It’s very typical of how the left works, the Soviet Union was very good at marginalizing people in that way.

                As to your point, again with the Nazis, the point of my statement was governments that deny, limit and or eliminate personal freedoms, such as speech, property ownership, the right to keep and bear arms, the right to peacefully assemble etc, will all eventually devolve into fascism. Strong central government control ultimately relies of denying most of these rights.

                You mention Germany and Demark, so far so good, Sweeden, who I believe has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, France, riots and a new government trying to move the country back toward the right, Italy, really? a country on the brink of collapse because of it’s socialism, and Israel, whom I’m assuming the fact they are surrounded by people that want a second Holocaust has something to do with any government control there.

                More to the point, you didn’t mention Venezuela, Greece, Spain, Portugal or Ireland, all countries being crushed by the socialist policies in place.

                Venezuela is no doubt a fascist state regardless of Chavez’s propaganda. Greece, like Italy, is in ruins, for all the same reasons. Both countries are ripe for a dictator, not that I’m saying that will happen, to step in and “save the day”. Any student of history can see post WWI chaos repeating itself, and what was the end result of that?

                The simple fact is the only thing that prevents a repeat of history, as 1 by 1 these socialist experiments collapse, is the strong, free, and capitalist states.

                But what happens when those countries cannot support themselves? Already Germany is rethinking it’s policy to bail out Europe. The US, with it’s debt climbing to a strangulation point, is in debt to..Communist China. Yes the same China that turned off the camera’s and crushed liberty seeking protesters in Tiananmen Square. It’s a lot easier to do that when the government controls the media.

                So I hope I clarified my statement for you. The countries you listed may not be fascist, but the more socialism creeps into the government, the only end is financial ruin and the opportunity for freedom to be quenched for “the good of the state”.

                Got to run for now. Telecon with Hannity and Beck, lunch with Limbaugh and then Chaney is coming over later for some light hearted puppy strangling and dinner.

                • So this is what is like to live in an alternate reality where the you make up your own facts to fit your world view? Man moonbat, you’re so far removed I don’t think there is anything that will wake you up. Have fun watching Fox News, I’m sure you’re getting the true truth there.

                  • MrM, he’s getting “HIS” truth there, which is all he requires. “THE” truth is actually a commie plot to bring about a Code-Pink/Communist/gay/Caliphate.

                    • And there it is. Can’t argue the facts, so throw out the insults. Thanks for proving my point. And MrM, I’m assuming the M is for moron, what in my original post is not true? I’m sure the “facts” you get are from noteworthy sources such as MSNBC. Do yourself a favor and don’t stand too close to the microwave when you’re wearing your tinfoil hat.

                • Everyone notice nutball had to run when his talking points run into logic his deluded head can’t wrap itself around. It’s pathetic watching these people try to come to grips with a world they don’t fully understand.

            • what,s wrong with education -I just don,t get people knocking education

          • Point of order: Hitler was not a Fascist.

            The Nazis were something unique. Hitler was a Dictator with a cult-like following.

            The Fascists were Italian, not German. Fascism is a merging of a Police State via Corporate Control.

        • Me: Hmm, I’ll bite, since no one else seems to want to.

          Notamoonbat on September 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM

          1. You’re irate over the president taking so many vacation days on the taxpayer’s dime (61 thus far), but you thought George W. Bush earned every minute of his leisure time (196 days at the same point in his presidency).

          The Chosen One has taken vacations and golfed when the country is in crisis. Although I’m, not a big Bush fan, he stopped golfing shortly after 911 and the war started. Not only that, the queen has taken vacations on the country’s dime, including his and her jets to the vineyard this time around.

          Me: Firstly, it is insanely obnoxious to refer to the POTUS as the chosen one. You think he’s an idiot? Fine. A bad politician? Fine. Even a liar and a subpar leader? Fine. But childish nicknames make YOU sound bad, not him. I couldn’t stand Bush, but I had the balls to refer to him by name. Making up nicknames to call people aims to debase them from the get go, shuts down reasonable discussion, and shows that you can’t take someone on without first disrespecting them. I’m guessing from the rest of your post that you are an adult, so act like one.
          Secondly, your point is moot for two reasons. Had Bush paid more attention and spent more time working before 9/11, it could have been prevented. There is substantial evidence that the government knew of a plot to attack the twin towers, and who was behind it. But it was shelved as unimportant. Preventing a disaster like the 9/11 attacks would have been better than responding to them. And, Bush didn’t suddenly have a change of heart ofter the attacks. Bush had spent nearly 3,000 days at the Crawford ranch by the time his presidency was over.

          2. You’re happy with your 40 hour work week, paid vacations and company-provided healthcare, but you’re strongly anti-union, because those commies haven’t done anything for you lately.

          Most people don’t hate unions and are very appreciative of what they’ve done over the years. The fact is, today, unions are just another arm of the Democratic Party, taking their members dues and supporting leftist policies while the union bosses drive around in limos and dine with the political elite. I’m a member of a union. I know.

          Me: You’re right. Today, unions are more closely associated with liberal politics. But the reason for that is the fact that conservatives have been trampling all over unions for the past several years. You may have respect for unions, but you’d be hardpressed nowadays to find many conservatives who support unions, and would more likely find people who believe unionists are a bunch of job crushing leeches. As for union leaders dining with the elite, I’m sure this happens, as it does with nearly any group with substantial power, but that’s no reason to denigrate the average person who believes in worker’s rights.

          3. You strongly support the First Amendment and it’s guarantee of religious freedom to all, but you don’t think Muslims have a right to build an Islamic Community Center in Manhattan.

          All conservatives support the 1st amendment, it is the left that tries to limit speech (political correctness), the press (sorry FOX, you don’t tow the white house line so no interviews for you), religion (you may not pray in school if you’re a Christian, but you may bow to Mecca or wear a burca), and the right to petition the government (sorry no freedom of information if it concerns the president’s birth certificate). Of course most liberals don’t even know what is included in the 1st amendment. As for the mosque. Most of us agree they have a right to build it, but it’s just a bad idea.

          Me: Wrong, wrong, wrong. Conservatives THINK they support the first ammendment, but they don’t really understand it, typically. Free speech does not mean you can say anything you like, any time you want. Nor does freedom of religion mean that either. These freedoms exist until they trample other people’s rights. This means that hate speech is unacceptable, just as lying(slander, defamation etc) is unnacceptable. Political correctness is not law. Fox has a reputation of misquoting individuals and lying. They are not a reputable news outlet. Because they are not serious, they often aren’t given the time of day. But neither are liberal news outlets that don’t operate as serious news stations, that’s why you never see John Stewart interviewing the president. Also, students ARE allowed to pray in school.They are allowed to pray individually, or even form student prayer groups. What is not allowed is school enforced religion, or teacher led prayer. I would think you’d be glad for that, seeing as you probably wouldn’t want strangers telling your children how to pray. And people do have the right to petition the government, and Obama’s birth certificate was released. Google it, if you must. And lastly, you must not have seen the news coverage back when the discussion about the Mosque in Manhattan was going on, not only did many people think it was terrible, but many were sending death threats to all those involved. Google that too, if you don’t believe me. I’m sure you’d find a million examples of idiots screaming at the cameras on youtube.

          4. You believe Ronald Reagan was a devout Christian, even though he hated going to church, but any president who spends twenty years going to the same Trinity United Church in Chicago must be a Muslim.

          While I’ve never heard anyone claim Regan was a devote Christian, the left have been deniers of the funding fathers deep religious beliefs which shaped the constitution. The Chosen One a Muslim? Probably not, I think he has no beliefs other than his belief that he is always right. All those years at the Trinity United Church doesn’t make him a Christian. It makes him an American hating racist

          Me: You’ve never heard anyone talk about how Reagan was such a good Christian? Pah. Good one. And the left denies the founding fathers spirituality because it’s true. Many of the founding fathers were religious, it’s true. But they weren’t exactly a bunch of Christian fundamentalists. Many were Deists, and all agreed that when religion gets involved in government, it gets ugly. This country was founded on ideals of freedom, and that’s what the constitution was based around, not religion. And I feel that when it comes to religion, it’s always best to take people at their word. Living in this country, it’s not all that difficult to see that nearly everyone is some form of Christian. Some are more devout than others, and that shouldn’t be an issue. Someone’s religion should NEVER be an issue. And his church is not America-hating, or racist. His pastor may or may not have been, but for the most part, it was just like any other church.

          5. You believe when a Republican governor creates a healthcare package with an individual mandate for everyone in his state, that’s a good idea. But when a Democratic president does it, suddenly it’s unconstitutional.

          Really? I don’t know ANY conservative that thinks Romney care is a good idea. That’s the reason the left wants Romney Vs the Chosen One. One crappy plan Vs another and it’s a wash in the election.

          Me: Actually, the left would rather see someone like Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann run against Obama, because it would pretty much ensure a second term. I’d say Romney is one of the best people the right could put up against Obama right now, because he’s one of the more honest, sane candidates out there. And I live in Massachusetts, and I can tell you, it was well recieved by republicans here and elsewhere until the whole issue came up for Obama. Now, no one likes that Romney did that, back then, they thought it was a great idea.

          6. You’re so enthused about demonstrating your Second Amendment rights, you can think of no finer place to brandish your pistol in public than at a presidential rally.

          The second amendment guarantees citizens the right to keep and bear arms. Taking to any kind of weapon rally is not a good idea, but are you saying no liberal has ever taken one to one? Although Kenneth Gladney could have used one when he was beaten by union thugs at a town hall meeting for giving out Don’t Tread on Me flags”.

          Me: The issue at hand is the large amount of conservatives showing off that they’re packing heat at a whole bunch of political events. Not carrying a gun, brandishing. There’s a difference.

          7. You believe Bill Clinton was responsible for Osama bin Laden’s escape ten years ago, but thankfully George W. Bush caught up with him and killed him in Pakistan.

          Bill Clinton did let OBL escape 10 years ago. He also allowed the USS Cole, the Kohbar towers and the World Trade Center to be bombed with no response. He gutted the military and the intelligence community resulting in 911. Our military killed OBL, not the Chosen One. On ya, Clinton’s justice department killed American citizens in Waco and on Ruby ridge.

          Me: Thanks for proving the point. When democrats are in power, it’s their fault that bad things happen, and it’s the military that does all the good stuff. When republicans are in power, bad things aren’t their fault, and any victories are accomplished because of them.

          8. You believe in putting American jobs first, except when president Obama rescued 1.5 million GM and Chrysler autoworkers, because that was socialism.

          GM is losing money hand over fist, as is Chrysler. Ford, who took no money, is leading the American auto industry. Enough said.

          Me: Irrelevant. It is the workers of those companies whose jobs were saved. Obama did what was necessary to save their jobs. If he hadn’t done it, countless people would have been out of work and everyone would have blamed Obama.

          9. It angers you that you can’t communicate with the Mexican busboy at your local Olive Garden, but when you took a vacation to San Francisco’s Chinatown, you thought it’s quaint that so many Chinese-Americans are holding fast to their traditional language. Because that’s America!

          How many of the Chinese in that restaurant came to this country illegally? How many are on public assistance? How many can speak or are trying to learn English? What is their graduation rate and how many go on to higher learning? How many drive without a license?

          Me: Also irrelevant. You’re making some serious assumptions. Many older people in Chinatown don’t speak english. Their kids and grandkids do, because they’ve gone to our schools and learned it. It’s the same with most other immigrant communities. Also, many Mexican immigrants come here illegally out of desperation, because it is so difficult to become a citizen, but for the majority of them, it’s their dream to be an American. Such dreams used to be attainable. They aren’t anymore. Instead of talking to a bunch of white people who were born here, try talking to an undocumented immigrant family. See the conditions they live in and how hard they work. Maybe you’ll rethink your statement. Or, by all means, continue to ignore reality and pretend that anyone who comes here without permission is a scumbag, without ever having really befriended any of them.

          10. You deny that the lunatic who tried to murder Gaby Giffords was a conservative, even though he targeted a Jewish, pro-choice, pro gay rights, Democratic Congresswoman.

          Trying to call the nutjob that shot Gabby Giffords a conservative shows how twisted, how racist and f**ked in the head liberals are. Are you really saying that if you shoot a liberal you are automatically a conservative? If you shoot a Jewish person you’re a conservative? If you shoot a pro-choice person you’re a conservative? So if you kill a black man you’re a racist then. Oh but wait, most African Americans are killed by…other African Americans. The entire sentence on your list makes me sick.

          Me: And that’s true actually. Loughner was sick, and there wasn’t much evidence that he belonged to any party or ideology. However, a real example of this is the shooting in Norway. Breivik was a conservative extremist, and he carried out his views violently. There is countless evidence that the shooting was because of his beliefs, and yet, no one wants to acknowledge that.

          11. You thought it was perfectly normal that every president in history had an untethered right to raise the debt ceiling when warranted, but when Obama asked the GOP held congress to do it, you thought it only natural that it be tied to cutting Social Security and Medicare.

          Most conservatives have never supported raising the debt limit. And ya, when the Chosen One increases the debt by trillions in 2 years it’s time to make cuts.

          Me: NO ONE likes it when the debt ceiling is raised. However, the wrong time to try to correct this and refuse to raise the ceiling is when we have so many people are unemployed and in great need of help, and when we need to create jobs. There’s no way to recover when the government can’t spend any money. The government can’t help people pay for school, or put them to work, or set up programs to help them get the skills they need to find another job. Nor can they help them pay for groceries when they’ve been laid off. Working on the government debt is a job to be done when things are going well, but no one has the foresight to do this because… well, because things are going just swimmingly.

          12. When the new 112th Congress was sworn in, you swooned as they promised to focus on “Jobs, jobs, jobs.” But when they pivoted, and went after NPR, Planned Parenthood and gay rights, you cheered.

          What jobs jobs jobs are you talking about in this one? NPR and PP are not job creators. They are debt creators and political organizations. If they want to exist, do it like every other true business and do it on your own without government dollars.

          Me: The original statement is saying that they promised to create jobs, and instead focused on eliminating programs that help and educate the poor. They have not done what they said they would during their campaigns. And, NPR and Planned Parenthood are not businesses. They receive government money because they aid people, and they should receive it.

          13. You accuse president Obama of raising your taxes to the highest point ever, even though they’re lower today than at any time since 1950.

          Taxes are at the lowest since 1950? Check again. Regan took the top bracket down to 28%. Hmm..think that was after 1950.

          Me: On average, Americans contribute about 23.6% of their income to taxes. Pretty sure that’s lower than 28%, which was the average from the seventies to the nineties.

          14. You believe the wealthiest Americans are “job creators,” and they are — but it doesn’t bother you that all the workers in those positions are in India, China and Malaysia, and they’re doing the jobs that our fathers once did.

          The reason jobs are going to India, China and elsewhere is because of the government regulations that force the cost of employing people here through the roof.

          Me: Wrong. The costs of employing people in America are not through the roof. The reason they are higher here than they are in China or India is because the same human rights laws are not in effect in these countries. Here, people cannot make less than minimum wage, nor can they work more than a certain amount of hours in a day/week unless they get paid extra for it. They are also entitled to safe working conditions, lunch breaks and benefits/vacation time if they work full time. Businesses are not moral entities, and will go where work is the cheapest. It’s all about the bottom line, and if that means hiring children to work for cents on the dollar in a poor nation, then they don’t care. Nor do they care if it means operating out of country that doesn’t care how much you pollute the air or waterways. Sending jobs overseas to poor countries isn’t about wanting to pay a fair amount, it’s about wanting to pay the least amount possible. Money, money, money.

          15. You believe gays are anti-American, because their lifestyle is a threat to the children… unless they’re married to Tea Party-backed presidential candidates from Minnesota.Conservatives don’t think gays are anti-American.

          Many disagree with their lifestyle and do not want it taught in schools. But of course if you ever disagree with a liberal you’re a racist, homophobe or just plain ignorant.

          Me: Wrong again. Want to really understand how much hatred many have for gays? Introduce yourself to people as a gay individual for a day. Wear a t shirt saying that you’re in a same sex relationship. Walk in a gay pride parade. Or check out the signs of anti-gay protestors afer gay marriage is approved somewhere. Or check out a homeless shelter for teens and find out how many of them were kicked out of their homes for being gay, bi or transgendered. Honestly, I challenge you to try it.

          16. You strongly defend individual freedom, but that freedom doesn’t include a woman’s right to decide her own healthcare needs.

          Women need to address their healthcare needs before becoming pregnant. Most Americans like to think the child should at least be considered before killing it.

          Me: Countless women do take precautions and get pregnant anyway. Abortion will always exist. Legalizing it has made it safer. It hasn’t caused more abortions statistically, but it has caused more women to live through the experience. If you haven’t lived a woman’s life, and know the real ramifications getting pregnant would hold, you have no right to tell her she can’t terminate her pregnancy. If men were the ones who got pregnant, this issue would be entirely different. Talk to a pro-life person long enough, and they’ll admit that having a baby is basically the punishment you serve for being a loose whore. Because, as everyone knows, accidental pregnancies are always the result of irresponsible, promiscuous tendencies in women with no self respect.

          17. You believe corporations are people too, and are deserving of the same rights as the rest of us. Just not the same obligations to pay personal income tax free of corporate loopholes, or penalties for massive criminal behavior and tax evasion. In these matters, corporations are deserving of special rights.

          Guess what, a corporation isn’t a living, breathing monster. It’s a way of running a business. Businesses create jobs. If you want jobs you have to make it profitable to run your business. Government get out of the way.

          Me: I fail to see how this comment actually addresses to issue at hand.

          18. And since corporations are now people too, you must believe in their right to a driver’s license, the right to marry, to adopt children, etc. These rights shall not be denied to Exxon, Halliburton and BP (but still immune from the right of the People to try, convict and sentence to death any corporation that conspires to commit a felony… because at that point, they’re suddenly not people again.)

          See number 17 you f**king moron.

          Me: Ooh, we’ve graduated to swearing and name calling, because you’ve run out of counter arguments. Well played.

          19. You still believe Climate Change is a myth, and the recent record highs, lows, floods and droughts around the world coinciding with climate scientist’s predictions are all an amazing coincidence. Oh, and Al Gore is FAT!

          You actually believe in man made global warming? Still? When the country was going through record cold spells and snow storms it was “weather, not climate”. But a heat wave, in July, is Global Warming..oh excuse me, Climate Change. What are you going to call it next? “The I hate the planet if I don’t but your BS global temperature change thingy?” Again, the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit scandal showed this for the scam and hoax that is Global Warming. But you’ve never read or heard about that, right?

          Me: If this is the argument you pose against climate change, it shows you do not understand it. Take the time to learn about it and then come back if you still believe it’s a myth. One study is enough for you to dismiss climate change, but hundreds that show that it is a real threat aren’t enough to sway you? Sounds to me like you are cherry picking to prove something you already believe.

          20. You believe when George W. Bush took the national debt from $5 trillion to $11 trillion, it was necessary for him to do so to keep America safe. But when Barack Obama added to it by trying to rescue the country from a second Great Depression, he was deliberately trying to destroy America!

          And Bush didn’t keep America safe? Cuts should have been made. Illegal Immigration should have been put under control. Welfare should have been reformed and a host of other things should have been done when he had the chance. The Chosen One is only feathering his and his crony’s nest and as anyone can see, his “debt to save us from the great depression” has worked soooooo well.

          Me: George Bush did not keep this country safe. The largest attack that ever happened on American soil occurred under his watch. And Obama’s tactics have worked. We’ve had some tough economic times, but nothing even close to the depression. Thanks to Obama, you won’t have to know what it’s like to watch the whole country starve.

          21. You believe America is a God fearing country, and that the Almighty protects those who believe just as you do. But it’s never crossed your mind that the majority of tornados, hurricanes and floods all occur in the Bible Belt.

          Hating people with strong religious beliefs is typical of liberals. Taking pleasure in the suffering of fellow Americans because they don’t agree with you is sick. The Nazis were like that too. You know, that National SOCIALIST Party from a few years back?.

          Me: No one is taking pleasure in anyone’s suffering. A simple fact is being pointed out. Those who are highly religious are quick to claim that anything negative is God’s punishment, but make excuses when anything negative happens to them or anyone like them. Nor do most liberals hate pious individuals. Laughing at them, telling them they are wrong and not wanting their rights to supercede eveyone else’s isn’t hate. Hate is wishing death upon people, not caring when they commit suicide and telling someone they will suffer eternally for their life choices. I see that coming from highly religious people more than anyone else. Also, the Nazi’s referred to themselves as the National Socialist Party, but they were fascists, not socialists. Fascism is on the very right of the spectrum, communism is on the left. Get it right.

          22. You believe that no matter who’s in the White House, the office, if not the man himself is deserving of your respect. The only exceptions to this rule, are if his middle name sounds Muslim, and if he’s not at least as white as that black guy who works down in the mailroom at the office.

          There it is. When I liberal can’t make a point on the facts, throw the race card. If you disagree with the Chosen One, you’re racist. But if over 90% of African American votes for the black candidate, that’s????? Conservatives don’t oppose of the Chosen One because he’s black. They oppose him because he’s and empty suit, moron, racist, American hating Marxist.

          Me: Not all conservatives are racist. Nor does it mean that when someone hates Obama, they are racist. However, there are a great deal of people who hate Obama purely because he is black and/or because they believe he is a Muslim. I agree with you that it’s just as wrong to vote for someone because they are the same race as you. Black people voting for Obama because he was black was every bit as racist as white people who didn’t vote for him for that reason. In fact, having race play a role in who you vote for at all is racist. But the issue at hand is those who are foaming at the mouth over having a black president. It would be foolish to suggest that there aren’t large amounts of racist people who hate Obama because of his skin color. We’ve seen numerous examples of it over the past few years. Also, while you may believe those things about him, they are not true. Obama is highly intelligent. He is not racist, he does not hate America, and he certainly isn’t a Marxist. If he were any sort of true communist, he wouldn’t even be IN government.

          -Sam (www.thecrazyleft.com)

    • Mr. Conservative, you have a right to your opinions, but how convincing do you think they are when you sprinkle them with obscenities and personal insults? What ever happened to civil discourse?

    • “There it is. When I liberal can’t make a point on the facts, throw the race card. If you disagree with the Chosen One, you’re racist”

      Except you already threw the race card: you said “All those years at the Trinity United Church doesn’t make him a Christian. It makes him an American hating racist”.

      See, you accuse someone of being a racist with no proof, and it makes you look like a hypocrite and a fool.

      One assistant Pastor at that Church was a loudmouth racist.

      I’ve been in the same situation and finally left our Church until the guy stepped down.

      “Most conservatives have never supported raising the debt limit. And ya, when the Chosen One increases the debt by trillions in 2 years it’s time to make cuts.”

      All the Conservatives in Congress before 2008 voted to increase the Debt Limit dozens of times. It’s hard to credit your claim.

      The Debt was ~$815 Billion before Reagan took office and he tripled it. Then HW Bush doubled it again.

      Clinton managed to balance the Budget two years running, and left a Surplus.

      Now, if sudden spending sprees are the trigger to make Conservatives protest, where were the protests under Reagan, Bush I and Bush II ?

      Obama acted to save the Country from the reckless fraud Bush’s incompetence and regulation cutting led to.

      If he hadn’t we’d be DOA by now.

      Your hate blinds you to the truth.

    • The only thing you got right was your unintentional typographical error (in your #4) about “funding fathers.” I know you meant “Founding Fathers,” but your error certainly explains what is going on today–the “funding fathers” who are funding the Republican’ts and Teabaggers who want to destroy America. as for the Founding Fathers’ “deep religious beliefs which shaped the constitution,” You have to remember that the Constitution says that there is NO religious test for office. Whether such a test is imposed from our pulpits or from the candidates themselves, it is wrong. I don’t want to know the religious opinions of ANY candidate, because it doesn’t matter. The problem with today’s fundamentalist Christians is that they think there should be a test.

    • You are one sick puppy. Absolutely full of hate. Racist and proud to the point of exploding. Have some nice green tea and sit for a moment. President Obama is smarter than you and you can’t bear it. He’s more compassionate (and forgiving) than you and it steams you. He’s a truer American than you – and he allows you your stupid opinion – and you just don’t know what to do with that.

    • What exactly is the ‘gay lifestyle’? I have many gay friends. They work, sleep, eat, etc, the same as everyone else. I fail to see the ‘lifestyle’ difference.

      Notamoonbat should simply be named ‘conservativetalkingpoints’

    • Notamoonbat is so FUNNY! Have you seen the Bill Maher / Keith Olbermann skit about the typical Republican voter who lives in a bubble? They live blissfully unaware and uninterested about Truth and Facts. Notamoonbat IS the typical Republican voter. For proof: go to HuffingtonPost to watch.

    • NOTAMOONBAT wrote:

      “14. You believe the wealthiest Americans are “job creators,” and they are — but it doesn’t bother you that all the workers in those positions are in India, China and Malaysia, and they’re doing the jobs that our fathers once did.

      The reason jobs are going to India, China and elsewhere is because of the government regulations that force the cost of employing people here through the roof.”

      Notamoonbat – I think that you are forgetting about the role of NAFTA and NAFTA-like agreements in this. Even before NAFTA was Free Trade, NDP MP Bill Blaikie tried to get worker protections into NAFTA so that there would be a tariff that companies who used slave labour would have to pay – so companies either had to pay the tariff to sell their goods or pay their employees more. Instead, we had Lyin’ Brian Mulroney saranading Ronald Reagan with When Irish Eyes are Smilin’ – and a clause in NAFTA called Chapter 11 which gives corporations the right to sue governments if governments pass laws that cut into their bottom line.

      In Canada, many of the Chinese came down when we needed workers to do unsafe jobs building railroads and there was something called a “head tax” which was put in place to prevent them from bringing their wives and children to Canada to live and start a life.

      Muslims are no more uniform than Protestants. What is your opinion on gay Muslims practicing their religious faith?

      If the unions do hold their nose and support the Dems, it is only because they feel that the Republicans would be even worse for worker’s rights.

      Not sure what you mean about the gay “lifestyle” – unless you are talking about the old days when being gay was illegal which made it hard to have a long term relationship if one did not wish to be caught and go to jail. The gay “lifestyle” is just like the straight “lifestyle” – just as mundane and ordinary – and, in Canada, married.

      I think that I would believe what David Suzuki says on climate change more than I would think tanks spokepeople paid for by “ethical” oil and “clean” coal. Actually, I think that I would believe a Polar bear more – and, according to the Inuit elders, they are not doing all that well.

      The NAZI’s were anti Communist and pro business, though they did create the odd Crown corporation. The Jewish Bund, which influenced the left in Canada did not like the Soviets on the far left any more than they did the NAZIs on the far right. David Lewis who coined the praise “corporate welfare bums” hated the Soviets because of what they did to his father – and why his father moved the family to Canada. David Lewis, the second leader of the NDP after Tommy Douglas, believed that human rights and workers rights trumped all – unlike both the Soviets and NAZI’s.

    • “They oppose him because he’s and empty suit, moron, racist, American hating Marxist” He’s and empty suit? A moron? Are you kidding with this crap? Harvard Law MCL. You do know what that is right? The rest of your post is just ignorant KKK stuff so I don’t really care. But calling Obama an empty suit, especially after The Bush Family Idiots is hilarious.

      Now I know you took a long time with WIKI Right to get an answer to all your pent up rage about the Chosen one, which says a lot right there, but really. Just go back to your sandbox, child please.

    • –There it is. When I liberal can’t make a point on the facts, throw the race card. If you disagree with the Chosen One, you’re racist. But if over 90% of African American votes for the black candidate, that’s????? Conservatives don’t oppose of the Chosen One because he’s black. They oppose him because he’s and empty suit, moron, racist, American hating Marxist.–
      I notice all these liberals who toss out the race card in lieu of argument have fallen mysteriously silent about a black man willing the latest straw poll by a landslide.

      • Not really, especially in light of Ann Coulter’s comments that “Our blacks are better than their blacks.”

        If that doesn’t scream “Republicans only like Cain because he’s an Uncle Tom” then I don’t know what does.

    • How come that, for all the lies the Nazis told, all the conservatives think they were telling the truth with their name? That’s like claiming Congo is both democratic and a republic because it’s in their name.

    • Love how The Buzzword keeps falling with a dull clink, so as to further mesmerize the already hypnotized. More to the point, though, Mr. President Obama is indeed the chosen one: chosen by the people, of the people, and for the people. Oh, and what’s with this “When I Liberal” typo that seems to keep cropping up? Freudian? Clumsian? Maybe just cutting and pasting with your eyes closed?

  • Oh well it is all going to get evened out next year with the coming landslide.

  • This post is probably the best in describing what a mess our country is in. Fighting and belittling each other is a ridiculous way to express your point of view, and agreed, it doesn’t get us anywhere as a country. After all, we live in a country where it is still legal to “cut up” infant boys, yet infant girls are protected by law. Currently our government sees no problem with violating the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. We need not look any further than this to see the problems in our country…..the rest of the problems spring from there. Do we really want a peaceful nation? It sure doesn’t seem like it.

  • Let me boil all this down for you trolls.
    The list is kind of joke, a hyperbole of the standard conservative position. While certainly not spot on for everyone on the right, there is a good amount of truth in there. The basics..
    If you want these kinds of lists to stop, you’ll need to re-brand the conservative argument. Because right now all the idiots are speaking for you. Palin? Bachman? Perry? are f-ing joking? They are out of touch with reality. Arguing against fact and reason is not the way to go. I could live with smaller government, I could live with some sort of reasonable compromise. The GOP is not interested in governing, they want to roll the clock back to 1915. Now shut up and go to church and try listening a little.

  • While a few of these are simply misconceptions about values held by many Republicans, I must admit that many of these are things that I criticize my fellow Republicans for. If something was wrong when Obama did it, it was just as wrong when Bush did it.

  • Man what a great and really spot on description of the mentality of Republican’s. I wish they could read this,but that no child left behind think still has them scratching there heads!

    • Kristy this is my favorite post, because you’re mocking and ridiculing the intelligence of a group of people who happens to feel differently than you do, which you clearly feel must make them unintelligent, but you do it with four glaring, common grammatical errors or typos. Oh the irony!!!

      • Hey, Becca! To be fair, my red pen finds over 6 English errors in Kristy’s post. But then again, it also finds three errors in your own post, not including the run-on sentence.

  • This is FULL OF BULLSHIT! Palin will completely DEBUNK all of those ridiculous claims! This list apply to libturds and progressos. Conservatives are GOD’s PEOPLE!

    • Oh wow, I suppose your one of God’s people??? That’s a joke. Today’s conservatives are the absolutely furthest thing from God’s People. Let me explain… Jesus wasn’t pro-gun, pro-war, anti-poor, he believed in healing the sick, despite their inability to pay. He would have the children fed, regardless of the money they had.. and was a loving God. These disgusting excuses for human beings would never recognize Jesus upon his return… and since he would have looked like a middle eastern man, would tap his phone (if he had one), and tackle him to the ground believing him a terrorist threat… refer to the gun you’d be holding in first statement. You Are A Joke!!!!!

      • I totally agree with you Andrea….totally….this article hits it spot on….exactly and I’m happy that winger read it and at least has an opinion…that’s progress…:)

    • It said the same thing on the belt buckles of the wehrmact…

    • Beverly Shields

      And ONLY conservatives are God’s people? God’s people are ok with kicking the poor to the curb when they can’t pay their medical bills? God’s people are ok with destroying the planet? God’s people are ok with people starving? God’s people are ok with killing innocent people in the name of bogus wars? God’s people are ok with taxing the poor and giving cuts to the rich? God’s people are ok with treating workers unfairly? God is in favor of only the rich and God hates or at least just dismisses the poor and lower class? God is a racist and a sexist? And those of us who don’t fit those descriptions are NOT God’s people? Then Jesus wasn’t “God’s people” either.

      • Don’t feed the troll.

        • C’mon,that Palin Power “troll” had to be a simpatico plant here to kick off the comment festivities. Don’t let’s get like the conservatives. NOBODY champions Palin’s ability to debunk, not even her manager. The list was good enough, no need to ceremonially prance your convictions out like the conservative illiterets do. You are above that. Right?

    • How could Palin debunk them? She can barely speak legibly.

    • No serious – you are kidding, right? You gotta be – otherwise how could you call people “libturds” and then claim (by inference) that you are one of “GOD’s PEOPLE!”

    • Hahahahahaa! Stop please, you’re killing me here =D

    • Obvious troll is obvious.

    • You Weak Tea Partiers must have made up a new god. The rest of us worship a God who loves each and every one of us, even (amazingly) you.

    • Wow Palin Power! Your words are so un-christian. Jesus would not approve of Sarah Pallin’s so called “christianity” or your hateful rant above. True Christians are kind, loving, giving and thoughtful. Most Conservatives, like Palin label themselves as “Christians” but really aren’t. Palin is filled with hate and spreads hate everywhere she goes. She is no more Christian than my dog.
      Most conservatives are no more Christian than all of my dogs, and You Just Proved it!

    • Hey Palin Power, I wish I could be there to watch your head explode over this but, guess what? Jesus was a long haired, brown-skinned, anti-war, Socialist Jew who dispensed free healthcare and hung out with prostitutes.

      KABOOOM!!!!!!

  • valid point ~ great article. very funny and poignant stuff. i might not have agreed on all points but i chuckled quite a bit. the fact that it stimulated 100+ comments is also validating. As George Carlin once said “I love and treasure individuals as I meet them; I loathe and despise the groups they identify with and belong to.”

  • iF YOU THINK LIBERALS ARE HATEFUL, YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO “RUSH “SOMETIMES AND OR FOX IN THE EVENING. THEY BRING HATE TO A NEW LEVEL AND AT THE SAME TIME, RUNNING THE LIBERALS DOWN FOR BEING A HATEFUL GROUP. DOUBLE STANDARDS AT THEIR BEST!!!! I SELDOM SEE A LIBERAL RANT BUT SEE THE CONSERVATIVE RANTS CONSTANTLY. SOMEONE ON THE RIGHT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE SEE CONSTANT NEGATIVE AND SPITEFUL RANTS ABOUT OBAMA.

  • I agree, even though I’m far liberal. A great example of a well-respected REAL Republican, Alan Simpson, had some terrific, honest comments recently on the current candidates and laptop traders skating on taxes.

  • My goodness, imagine a country where people didn’t finger point or make gross generalizations about those they oppose. Imagine a country where everyone was an informed independent thinker and didn’t just regurgitate whatever hype was spilling off their “party’s” bandwagon. Imagine if everyone knew that the liberal/conservative spectrum is a sliding scale and what it actually means to be republican or democrat. Imagine if those weren’t such dirty words!

    Articles like this are erroneous and not productive to abolishing ignorance and that’s what makes it not funny to me. It should be renamed, “You Know You Are an Ignorant Right-Wing Extremist if…” and then I would like to see the sister post, “You Know You Are an Ignorant Left-Wing Extremist if…” I wonder how many people here would find the latter funny?

    And for the record, before anyone tries to accuse me of being a Glenn Beck/Bachmann supporter, I’m a libertarian. An informed one at that.

    • imagine a country where the major candidate for its presidency didn’t think that basic science is a scam and a fraud and all scientists cheats and liars. imagine a country where the leading candidates for its presidency did not want to replace its constitution with an ideology of domination of the overwhelming majority by a small minority. imagine a country where the poorest of the poor were not routinely vilified as parasites by the top 1% who already have more wealth than the other 99%. imagine a country where government by the people wasn’t considered incompetant but government by corporations for profit at public expense was considered unjust and immoral and unconstitutional.

      • Thatdudewiththat

        Sounds like the anathema of the last 5-10 presidents (including the current one).

      • Imagine a country with a government from, by and for the people (and no, that doesn’t mean corporations too). That’s what Ben Franklin and the rest of the founding fathers intended to create, but what has evolved from that idea is a horribly disfigured caricature where wealth and power is concentrated in a few corrupt hands, while the rest of the people slowly but surely are reduced to peons.

    • I think you summed up my thoughts completely X. This is exactly what it is like clicking onto a conservative website except with the extreme left instead of the extremem rights views being screamed all over the place. A bunch of hypocrites if you ask me. No better than the conservatives they mock.

    • “Informed libertarian” is an oxymoron.

    • Being a modern Libertarian just means you’re a far-right Republican without the guts to admit it.

      • Bullshit. I am a liberal, and I respect libertarians, because they can draw their own opinions, and have done so based on the information they have been provided. Thinking so narrowly about a group is what we so often denounce here, yet you do it now. Anyway, she has a very good point – and I have that list somewhere, with both sides. I will post it if I can find it…

        • RIGHT ON! I tend to get along VERY well with both liberals, and some conservatives.. Some.. Mostly because I support RP and most of the damn neo-conservatives out there are so scared crap he will win they hate me because of it.. Lmao..

    • I am a libertarian, as well, and it seems as though we the “fringe” are the only ones with half the sense to stop bickering…

      I sympathize with both the authors views and leftist views on topics (war, gay rights, right to choose(although not 100% libertarian), etc) as well as the views of the “conservatives” you speak of here– small government, less spending, etc.,

      It is my opinion, that this two party paradigm is played and useless, and is only serving to further divide Americans in a time when it is all to necessary for us to band together.

      Stop the partisanship, and try to focus on the REAL problems— globalism, corporate greed, the erosion of our liberties at home under the guise of “security” and our ever increasing military intervention all over the world. If you examine these issues closely, you will see that they are not left/right issues at all.

  • You might be a liberal if…
    You believe every single one of the above is absolutely true (but believe absolute truth doesn’t exist).
    You believe all the above is totally true, but demand conservatives must “back up” every word with documentation that is ironclad. Then deny the facts when they tell them.
    You believe everything in the list is true of every conservative everywhere for all time but hate generalizations.
    You think of yourself as tolerant, but hate hate hate conservatives and wish them dead.
    You enjoy lying.

  • IF YOU PRAY TO JESUS AND DON’T REALIZE HE WAS THE BIGGEST SOCIALIST EVER!

  • I know this is written as a humorous article, but it makes really really broad generalizations as well as inaccurate statements.

    • How so? What is your proof He was a socialist? And what does that mean for “separation of church and state?”

      Discuss…

      • Jesus said: go sell your all your stuff, give it to the poor then join me. In the book of Acts of the Apostles they gathered the monies from the properties sold by the first Christians and gave it to each member as they needed, God struck those who held back monies.

        However you love to have separation of church and state when it is convenient for the pocket of the rich, but not when it comes to women uteruses or gay marriages.

        Why do you omit the unfavorable socialist laws of Christ for the rich to share their wealth?

        So why not omit the unfavorable religious laws for gays and women as well, why be biased?

        Discuss…

        • For separation of church and state just look at what Jesus said when questioned if he intended to challenge the rule of Rome, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s”. Caesar represented the ruler, the government, illegal as it was but Jesus wanted none of it to get mixed up with the kingdom of heaven. There it is, your separation of church and state from the mouth of Jesus himself.

          • Uh, Rome was very much the “legal” government for the area. Conquest works that way. Kind of like what happened to the Native Americans… (and a few billion other conquered peoples since man invented warfare)

            Otherwise the reply was near perfect.

    • Yes it does make broad generalizations as well as inaccurate statements so I guess it should be on FOXNEWS!

    • Yes, it does. But we let a lot of things fly in humour that we wouldn’t accept if they were said in seriousness.

  • I would assume I’m more liberal then conservative in my opinions, but I do try to keep myself detached from set conclusions. I do see this in some conservatives, though most certainly not all. Though there are insanities like this to some liberals I know as well. Again, not all, but some.

    I feel if you can’t read the arguments here and see both sides as being complete idiots then your likely way to full of your little cage of political alignment to ever be beneficial to society due to lack of the ability to have an unbiased look at important subjects.

    The concept of one way or another will always drive me up a wall, and both Republicans and Democrats have potential to have positive effects on society, and it would be even more so beneficial if people were able to compromise.

    Sadly that will never happen, because someone will always be closed minded and ignorant, from one side or the other. Back to your disputing, if one person stops being a moron by reading this then I’ll be happy.

  • I’m a conservative and don’t believe the vast majority of these things. Also, when was the last time someone was sentenced to death for financial crimes?

    • Of course you don’t. It’s much easier to just watch Fox News and believe everything they tell you. None of that boring research, either.

    • Bruce Lindner

      Fair question JJ, but that wasn’t my point. Say for example, you’ve got a mining mogul that has been deliberately falsifying the work conditions in his mines for years. Or a tobacco industry that falsified (under oath) the dangers of smoking cigarettes for decades, and hundreds of thousands of people died as a result. Or an oil industry that took shortcuts for the sake of profit, and 11 rig workers perished. Think that through: People DIED due to the failure to prevent what they surely knew would cause the deaths of some of their employees or customers. Easily preventable deaths, all ignored for profit.

      If a “person” was convicted of causing the death of another, by failing to tell the truth about a certain danger, they would be charged accordingly in a court of law. And if the case was particularly heinous, they might even be sentenced to death. But not in the corporate world. The worst that happens then, are massive fines, which most companies fight anyway (Exxon still hasn’t paid for most of the damage done by the Exxon Valdiz 22years ago, and they’re still one of the largest corporations in world history.)

      So that’s my point. If a person intentionally causes another person’s death, it’s manslaughter or murder. If a corporation is proven negligent, and people die as a result of that negligence, a few executives might go to jail, but the company lives on. I say, if they want to be treated as “people,” then any company that knowingly and willingly causes the death or disease of another should be treated like a human being. LOCK THEM UP! And distribute their assets to the families of the victims.

    • a pretty open question: china executed a number of people for adding melamine and other toxins to milk and candy products to increase false protein content readings and thereby the prices at which those products were sold… a financial crime. deaths caused by a felony are first degree murder. i don’t believe in capital punishment. but the depression of 2008 is a crime for which life imprisonment is too kind. those bankers should be condemned to living the rest of their lives on the minimum they can receive from social security. without eligibility to medicare. let them depend on medicaid. all other income in kind or cash should go to the us treasury.

  • I realize there are two sides to every story but alot of these points made in this article don’t even make sense…such as the comment about GW Bush killing Osama Bin Laden. It’s my understanding that he was killed under Obamas administration. There are also alot of other points that could easily be disputed with a few sentences. I will not try to take the time to do this as I’m not a political analyst but would love to hear Glenn Beck’s opinion on these topics. I only hope that people don’t read this and automatically believe everything in this article without taking the time to research the topics and form their own opinion.

  • I’m a Democrat, but I see a big difference between Republicans and crazies. I wish mainstream Republicans would get really loud about disavowing the nut cases. Let them make their own party rather than coopting an existing one. It’s dishonest. I love the logic and the humor of these, and I think citation of source should be the 11th Commandment, but let’s regain our national and personal sense of humor and not argue about who thought of them first. As things like this circle the internet repeatedly circle the internet, plagiarism doesn’t strike me as a sensible discussion for humorous, if pointed, pieces like this.

  • You can actually spot the traditional conservatives
    here from the right wingers. There are subtle
    differences, but the major one is a sense of humor.

    • Bruce Lindner

      Blame the First, let me see if I have this right… You just accused me of plagiarizing your document “You Might be a Liberal If…,” correct? And the date you posted your article was November 1, 2010.

      Well Bubba, who plagiarized who? I posted the original on October 18, 2009. Sucks to be caught in a LIE, doesn’t it asshole?

      http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=153671322513

      You can accuse me of a lot of things pal, but being a thief isn’t one of them. Particularly since YOU just exposed yourself as the thief who plagiarized ME. My people will be contacting your people.

      • Bruce Lindner

        The very first comment at the top of that thread was by me as well:

        “I wrote this a few months ago as a blog post just after the election. It’s a little stale now, but I’m still proud of it, and stand by it. (To my Republican friends, keep in mind that it was my intent to create controversy, which it DEFINITELY did. The chatter went on for weeks. Feel free to comment, but try to resist taking it personally – this was directed at the extreme fringe of the GOP).”

        Was I the first person ever to write an article with that exact title? I seriously doubt it. But I DID write that one more than a full year before BlameThe1st wrote his, and he’s on record accusing me of plagiarizing his work… which he obviously plagiarized from me. Let’s see if BlameThe1st is man enough to admit he’s a liar and a thief.

        Again BlameThe1st: You published yours on 11/1/10, I published mine on 10/18/09. So who’s the thief?

      • Okay, you’re not a plagarist. I’m sorry. :(

        • Bruce Lindner

          A wise choice on your part. But don’t expect anybody to believe you didn’t plagiarize my original work. It’s almost a direct parody of mine, right down to the format.

          Apology accepted.

          • Now, boys. Tsk. Tsk. Parody is not plagiarism. It is called “free speech.”

            As for this article. I don’t believe a single thing on this list, yet I am a conservative.

          • Well you both ripped off a comedy routine made famous by Jeff Foxworthy. Hypocrite much?

          • And I’m pretty sure you both copied Jeff Foxworthy, so pointing fingers really isn’t gonna prove anything here. Also I really don’t see how the format he used could really be that different. Any you might be a “something” if is going to look exactly the same.

            • Bruce Lindner

              Really? You think that because I used the gag “you might be a XXXX…” to set up a satirical article, that constitutes plagiarism? Interesting… As far as I know, Foxworthy didn’t originate it either; it’s a gag that’s been around forever, and EVERYONE has used it. But even if he had, the point was to draw the reader to a familiar setup, with uniquely different and original contents. Get it?

              Had I titled the piece; “It Was the Best of Times, it was the Worst of Republican Parties,” do you believe that too would be plagiarism, or just an homage to Dickens? Plagiarism is when you steal someone else’s work. The title was deliberately familiar for a reason, and if anybody wants to accuse me of plagiarizing the CONTENT, I cordially invite you to post proof.

              • Ok, here is what I am stating
                1. The above poster is definitely wrong in calling you a Plagiarist.
                2. I highly doubt the above poster was plagiarizing you. In fact your above comment just completely defended him.
                I’ve seen articles like this with identical titles before (although this is probably one of the most well done) and everyone calling each other plagiarists is going to do absolutely nothing because in fact no here copied each other.

          • Neither of you is guilty of plagiarism. If you are accusing each other of stealing the format, then perhaps you both should be guilty of stealing from Jeff Foxworthy (you might be a redneck if…), of course, he stole it from countless others before him. Other than that, there is no plagiarism here, and to use that word makes you both seem stupid. Stop.

          • Bruce you’re a Jeff Foxworthy ripoff.

            Easier to steal than depend on your own creative output.

    • Never knowingly. People have been known to complain about the amount of citation I include in my free lancing or social media commentary—it takes a lot of words and there are those walking among us who don’t really want to read many words. But if someone picks up some humorous thing I have said and spreads it, without my name—they have my blessing. If they spread the idea, that’s a good thing. If it’s serious writing for which I hope to get paid, that’s something else. If it’s on the internet, I don’t own it or won’t for long. That’s reality. Frankly, I keep hoping the exchange of ideas is the major point; I become increasingly concerned that the major use is to snark.

    • Not knowingly. I think citation of source should be the 11th Commandment, especially these days. And I go back and correct and apologize if I inadvertantly do. But for my personal writing, if I hope to be paid I keep the voice very personal; if I put something out on social media that has the voice of the great god internet, I congratulate myself if the idea is shared and move on.

  • #20 suggests Bush started with a deficit. My understanding is that thought Reagan ran on an End The Deficit platform, he actually increased it and that by the end of Clinton’s term, we were 50 million in the black, Bush’s beginning national debt before two wars and ignoring rhetoric about the dangers of subprime mortgages.

    And, as a flaming liberal, I loved the questionaire!

    However, I do feel Bush or whatever has caused a great polarization politically than needs to stop. The extremes and the name-calling is bad for us as a country and as individuals.

  • A friend of mine posted this article on Facebook, so I thought I would see what it had to say. Knowing that it was a Liberal article I figured I would get a good laugh. And I did. Not because I agree with it, but because this article and the comments left on it shows exactly what is wrong with politics. Politically, I land somewhere in between conservative and libertarian. I don’t completely agree with my left-leaning friend, but we debate and find common ground…not on everything of course. Both sides of the political spectrum and everyone in between has to draw line and smear everyone else for believing what they believe.

    Almost all politicians are only out for there own political gain. “I can’t vote for that. I might not get re-elected.” They need to start concerning themselves with the welfare of the American People. Everyone needs to quit spending so much time pointing fingers at others and try to figure out how fix things. I don’t side with any one political party, because to me they are all full of sh##.

    • diane valentine

      I agree with you 100%
      Well said!

    • Having read the Libertarian Platform I cant understand what a “Conservative” Libertarian is. Outside the mutual feelings towards the Federal Government… every SINGLE other libertarian position is completely opposite of the GOP.

      There is no way you could be conservative on personal issues. You being a libertarian would make you more liberal than liberals. Wide open boarders, Religious freedom, Marriage equality, legalization of ALL drugs… and on and on.

      Its all right there on their own website.

      The GOP believes in smaller government when it comes to money and taxes, not personal issues… Libertarians believe in NO government involvement AT ALL, thus their above positions.

      So how is one a “Conservative Libertarian” …. Constitutionally conservative perhaps?

      • First of all, you misread what I wrote. I never said I am a conservative libertarian. There are views that I agree with on both sides. On the Libertarian side I agree with things such as taxes, smaller government, the war (to a point), and there may be others. But that is about it. Otherwise, I am conservative. Not a right wing extremist, but conservative nonetheless,

      • Hate to burst your bubble but no government at all means your an anarchist not a libertarian.

  • Sharon Barlow

    People do get testy about this kind of article. As a liberal I found it highly entertaining and can’t figure out why people continued to read it if they are conserative.

    • To see what kind of mindless nonsense is considered “humor” by the left, probably. Which is pretty boring and predictable, “George Bush this, socialist that, wah wa wah wa wah”. If you want to hit them where it hurts where 43′s involved, remind them that Dubya acted more like a Democrat than Obama, while he was in office.

    • I am with Ryan! I kept reading and all I could think was that someone actually sat down and wasted their time making fun of Conservatives. Blaming Bush left and right, but you have to consider where they get it from. Obama has spent his entire presidency making things 1000X worse and constantly blaming “the offices before him.” Monkey see, monkey do!! It’s no wonder they behave the way they do. Dems always looking for a free ride and blaming those who disagree with them for not getting it.

      • Buffy Morrissette

        Where are all these democrats looking for a free ride? The democrats I know are working their jobs, owning their shops, paying their taxes – happily, I might add – and looking out for others while doing it. I have listened to republicans blame Clinton and Obama for nearly everything that has gone wrong in this country for the past thirty years, even though republicans have been in office more than they’ve been out, and they raised taxes, debt ceilings, deficits, and the debt. I’m not blaming anyone, I’m pointing out facts that you apparently miss every time you turn your t.v. to fox news to get your daily talking points. Stop calling democrats whiners when you whine way more than we do – we’re too busy working to get by to bother. Stop pretending we’re not working as hard as you are to get by. and stop blaming the current president while complaining that other people are blaming a previous president. It’s getting old. I just reread this article, and didn’t happen to see anyone blaming anyone for anything, just pointing out some observations. And if you’re going to set me straight here, please, at least stop being a hypocrite and blaming Obama (making things 1000X worse . . .) while you’re pretending only one side does it.

      • Michelle- You are wrong. Clearly wrong. But you are also in a very interesting position. Let me explain. President Obama inherited a financial disaster. If you debate that statement, then my efforts are already lost on you. He did some things, at real expense to the Treasury, to save us from a very real looming financial collapse. He saved a ton of jobs. He kept the banking system alive, though I personally have doubts about how wise that was. He did a lot of hard but good things and they were expensive. And he rarely gets credit for any of it. It was time consuming and I’m sure distracted from what he’d planned and hoped to get done in the first two years. He rescued America !!
        Now here’s the dilemma: Because of the Presidents actions, we will never know how bad things “could have been” IF President Obama didn’t, literally, patch and fix as fast as he could.
        I’m not going to say that Obama did it perfectly, or even extremely well, BUT we are still here. We still havZNP2e a stock market and our money still has value. Most of us still have jobs and homes. Sure, times are rough, but the actions of the past few years did not directly cause that. It’s been coming for a while.

        I say: NEVER FORGET how much damage ONE President can do. I’ll bash GW Bush for the rest of my life, especially to my grandchildren as an example of what happens when the greedy and heartless are in charge.

  • Why oh why are my shared to facebook not coming through with these?

    Methinks it’s a conspiracy and I’m not normally into tinfoil hats.

  • Holy crap.. I’m defending the constitution based on a comment from Matthew Desmond.. the guy selling a shirt that says “take back Americas wealth, tax the rich”!? Oh my God.. this isn’t a liberal website.. its a downright COMMUNIST website! That is one disgusting shirt and the antithesis of what this country stands for.. no need to worry about me to continue debating.. had I realized it I wouldn’t have started. You people are repulsive

    • “You people…”????

    • “Take back America’s wealth, tax the rich,” is Communist? Seriously, Mark? So would you say Warren Buffett is a Communist? One of the great capitalist leaders of the US? If so, give me that brand of Communism any day! Considering that Buffett said that he is taxed too little and that the people working for him are taxed at a higher rate and he feels that is unfair, why, that isn’t Communism-it’s COMMON SENSE!!

      I would be curious to know how much you make per year, Marc. Are you in the $250K+ bracket? If you are, maybe you have some reason to grouse, but if you are not, you don’t seem to realize that you are actually getting taxed at a rate lower than we have seen in two generations. Of course if you think that the rich are getting kicked in the groin too much and that those who make much less should carry the burden, you go ahead and get to the head of the line for that group and empty all of your pockets before they turn you upside down just to make sure a penny or two hasn’t escaped them, then walk away with a dazed look on your face as the millionaires and billionaires not only do not get their pockets picked, but actually get a pass from those who take the money.

      And Marc, if you do not make $250K/year, what are you griping about? Someone who is not making that much complaining that those who do might have to shell out a few more kopecks is like a bachelor who is dating tons of women griping because a sheik with 50 wives has one who falls in love with someone else-it makes no sense!

      • Bruce Lindner

        Something tells me Marc isn’t the brightest star in the firmament. His positions are all reflections of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh sound bytes, so trying to reason with him is pointless. And I don’t think he could define communism if his life depended on it.

    • Alice Wheeler

      I think you need to get a good dictionary and look up the meaning of communist. People like you who are so quick to label someone with a distasteful name, without any fact at all supporting that, are irresponsible, ignorant, are America’s #1 Public Enemy. It would be laughable, but it’s been shouted and thrown around so many times but the exact people who are trying so hard to make this country communist/fascist that now it’s just monotonous and boring. Cram it where the sun don’t shine, if you couldn’t tell from the title of this peace that it wasn’t going to jive with your ignorant beliefs, you are just stupid. If some of the points hit a little close to the bone, oh well, toughen up wimp! It’s hilarious, much funnier than your tired old rants!

    • You have no idea what Communism is and even less idea about the history of your own country. You are exactly the kind of person the article was mocking and the only way you could improve your country would be your suicide.

    • Marc-
      If you aren’t being sarcastic, then take any intro course in Poly Sci and you will (maybe) learn what communism really means.

      BTW, this country was founded by folks who protested and by folks with unorthodox thinking. We were some serious rebels !! Wearing a shirt or carrying a sign— It’s a VERY American thing to protest injustice loudly (!!)

      Live with it… it makes us great…

  • Oh silly people. This is comedy by a liberal about conservatives. If you’re a conservative, don’t read it. If you’re a liberal, laugh your ass off.

  • Great list.

    I’d add:

    23) You believe that it’s okay to blow the cover of a CIA agent, a top counter-proliferation CIA officer (Valerie Plame Wilson), and that those Republicans who blew her cover should not be charged with treason, tried for “high crimes and misdemeanors,” and either get life in prison or be executed.

    24) You believe that it’s okay to politicize a natural disaster (Hurricane Katrina), going after a Democratic governor (Gov. Kathleen Blanco, D-LA), smearing her as incompetent (the day News Orleans flooded she was accused on Fox News and right-wing rant radio of not formally requesting federal disaster assistance even as she was working with the FEMA disaster coordinator in Baton Rouge at the FEMA command center set-up before Katrina made landfall), while at the same time top government officials were withholding federal disaster aid from desperate U.S. citizens devastated by a natural disaster (in Louisiana and New Orleans; federal aid initially planned for Louisiana was either held back or was diverted to Alabama and Mississippi, two Katrina-hit states with Republican governors), so that matters will get much, much worse in New Orleans and your smear campaign against a Democratic governor (and the Democratic Party) in Louisiana will work better.

    25) You believe that stripping state governors of control over their sovereign state during a natural disaster is okay. (One year after Hurricane Katrina, Bush got congressional Republicans to enact legislation stripping governors of their official duty as governors during any natural disaster as declared by Bush. All fifty governors, Republicans and Democrats, protested vehemently, but it did no good. The legislation passed and Bush signed it. When Hurricane Ike hit the Texas Gulf Coast later, DHS and FEMA were completely in charge, while Gov. Rick Perry was side-lined and had no say at all.)

  • no the second amendmend was written by people who had to fight for freedom from a tyrannical government (I assume you’ve actually heard if the American Revolution?… you know .. the British didn’t provide independance “willingly ” there was a war. They knew freedom meant the citizens had to have the same arms to keep in check so if the govt has ar15-s then the citizens have the right to have them too. Ignirant liberal moron.. only for muskets? Does that mean freedom of speech doesn’t account for TV radio and the internet, cause those things didn’t exist in 1776!?!?! Ignorance! Read a bit about the Constitution!

    And to the genius author .. I’m a “bigot” cause I said “illegal” alien?? More genius liberalism! My wife was naturalized as a citizen at 30 years of age but it was LEGAL! What would leftists do without illegal immigrants??

    Lastly.. as for Gifford being Jewish so Laughner had to be a conservative? I Am Jewish .. bar mitzvah and all.. your great bummer is the most anti Israel president ever and hopefully more Jews will wake up. Go to jpfo.com and learn something you fool.

    • Bruce Lindner

      Okay Marc, let’s dance.

      No, you’re not a bigot for mentioning the word illegal, you’re a bigot because you blew your cool and brought up the issue of “illegal aliens” when the discussion was gun control. See how this works? You tipped your hand by allowing your emotions to get the better of your brain, and you inadvertently spewed your true fears. Silly you, eh?

      As for your being Jewish, well, good for you! So am I. And even though I spent several years of my life growing up in Israel in the early ’60s, that matters not a bit to me. Both I, and most American Jews are dead-set against Netanyahu’s right-wing oppressive regime. Being opposed to a Jewish thug doesn’t make one an anti-Semite, it makes you an anti-thug. My only wish, was that your comment above was correct; that Obama was being hard on Netanyahu. But sadly, he hasn’t been tough enough to make a difference.

      Anything else?

      • Yes you totally ignored my argument that under your “interpretation ” of constitutional issues that the second amendment only apply to muskets means you have no understanding of the amendment or the constitution. The founding fathers knew that allowing the government to become too powerful over the citizens they would become subjects. No matter how hard you try, you can’t forget this country was started by people who fought and killed for freedom. They knew arms of the people needed to equal the government. Read Jefferson, Hamilton, Adams, not just what Piss Matthews says on MSNBC everyday.

        Does the freedom of speech only apply to newspapers? Not electronic media, cause they sure as hell couldn’t have contemplated that!

        Here is a great quote from another liberal.. the famous attorney and constitutional scholor: “Foolish liberals who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it’s not an individual right or that it’s too much of a public safety hazard, don’t see the danger in the big picture. They’re courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don’t like.” — Alan Dershowitz

        • Bruce Lindner

          Alan Dershowitz, eh? Okay, I concede. When Dershowitz speaks, it MUST be true.

          By the way Marc, do you think O.J. Simpson ever killed anybody?

          • I do believe oj killed his wife. And i also believe you keep avoiding the facts about our founding fathers, the nature and meaning of the second amendment as clarified by Jefferson, Hamilton, the SCOTUS. you further fail to comment on how virtually all freedoms under our constitution would be voided if you somehow required that the founders had to contemplate modern day equivolents. As a matter of fact the 9th amendment is so forward thinking it states unenumerated rights (things accidently left out of the bill of rights) will be retained by tthe people.

            So the dumbass liberal “musket” argument is old tired and doesnt stand up to any reasonable constitutional understanding, as is the same as the first amendment doesn’t apply to the internet or TV cause the founders would never acquiesce to such a radical dissemination of ideas? You keep ignoring that though but its OK.. 1 dimentional self proclaimed intellectuals always fall flatwhen tthey are confronted with facts ..

            But let me guess? Gay marriage should be protected under the constitution cause that was certainly contemplated 200+ yrs ago.. just keep reading it “your way”

            • Bruce Lindner

              Marc, have you noticed yet that nobody here is arguing for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment? You’re arguing with yourself dude, and entertaining thousands of liberal observers in the process.

              You’re not very smart Marc, but that’s okay… I like that in a conservative blogger. It reinforces my articles.

              Thanks for playing our game.

              • Really? Read the post of Matthew Desmond below and make your ignorant statement again.

                I love liberal bloggers.. they never stay on point..

                • Bruce Lindner

                  Marc, you need to get out of Miami more often. The outside world is very different from how you imagine it.

                  • Again, not on point and i lived for 18 years in new York.. can’t you actually come back with something other than that.. damn my 14 yr old debates better than you

                • Oh and in addition to my last post, you forgot your own post.. let me rrequote you:

                  And since you mentioned the Founding Fathers, are you so obtuse that you actually believe they could envision the kind of hardware we have today, vs the muskets and simple hunting rifiles of the 18th Century? If there were more folks like you in power, everyone would have a right to keep and bear nukes

                  -you are implying that the 2nd doesn’t apply to modern day firearms which is in essence a de facto attempt to invalidate it.. and for tthe 100th time you neglect to address the issue of constitutional transference to modern times, no doubt dissapointing the bevy of self proclaimed altruistic, wonderminds that the uber left has to offer.

                  Thanks for playing.. you have proven to all the liberal onlookers that you simply can’t stay on point and just keep weaving. Its really pathetic considering you’re portraying yourself as some kind of intellectual

              • > Bruce Lindner on August 16, 2011 at 6:38 PM wrote,
                > Marc, have you noticed yet that nobody here is arguing for the repeal
                > of the 2nd Amendment? . . .

                I am.

                Best wishes,

                –Mike Barkley, Candidate for Congress, http://www.mjbarkl.com/run.htm

    • Barry Gumbert

      LOL “Ignirant liberal moron[sic}

  • This isn’t actually describing “conservatives” – even though they like to wear that label. The GOP ship has been boarded and captured by the christian nationalists. Yesterday, I had a right-wing acquaintance describe Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama as members of the “far left”!! – these guys have go so far they don’t even begin to understand the political spectrum when they think a “liberal” is a “radical”!

    • My biggest fear is that this country will elect a president that feels the need to ask God about his or her decisions, and expect to get an answer. That’s radical and delusional. I think I’ll ask God what I should have for lunch. Gee, I’m hoping he tells me to have that leftover meatloaf.

  • In stating that President Obama increased the debt to save our economy, the statement alludes to the stimulus package. It continues to mystify me that the impression is that Obama implemented and devised that one. That plan was put in place by the previous administration during the lame duck session immediately prior to the end of President Dubya’s last term. The outline of that plan firmly stated that the Obama administration must put the stimulus package into play in three stages. Funny everyone forgets that he was doing a job that was required of him because of the previous Congress. So in fact, and even though out of office, #43 has been continuing to ruin the debt and using Republicans to create rhetoric that blames #44.

  • Re: #10

    Sorry, but the guy who attacked Gabby Giffords was a nut. Politics didn’t enter into his attacking her, he’s a classic example of a paranoid lunatic

    • Bruce Lindner

      Scot, see my clarification below. He was indeed a wild card. But that didn’t stop the right-wing media from openly labeling him as a “leftist.”

  • Good post…although I would revise #8 somewhat. I think you meant to say 1.5 million industry related jobs. GM and Chrysler together do not employ 1.5 million autoworkers. A Washington Times article (not a liberal publication by any stretch) from last year puts the estimate at 1 million. Still, the point you’re making is valid.

    Here’s a link to that article:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/5/obama-auto-industry-bailout-saved-1-million-jobs/

    • Bruce Lindner

      Correct. Including all the gas stations, restaurants, grocery stores, parts suppliers, glaziers, etc., etc., 1.5 million jobs minimum, not 1.5 million auto workers. Thank you for catching that, I was imprecise. (not the first time).

  • As long as both parties and most of the voting public are focused on the petty differences between us we will never make any useful changes to the way our republic is governed. All our sniping is just a distraction from the problems that threaten our civil peace and prosperity. Congress is obligated to support the demands made by the entities that got them in office if they want to run again and win. The press covers every outrageous pundit or candidate that can spout nasty drivel and even tempered, thoughtful orators are left unheard. I know that there are exceptions to these but for the most part we are stuck with this until we create campaign funding reform (corporations will fight it with everything they have) and quit listening to divisive and sensational news seek our information that can help us make informed decisions. Oh, and we need to vote.

    • Watched the documentary “Inside Job” trhe other night… We need a leader (none on the horizon) whowill make the average American rise up against these CEOs /their Boards, Ivy league economists and politicians who have created this atmoshpere and declining economy. Im with you all the way!

  • I have seen a similar list before. This is great and really shows the hypocrisy and/or lack-of-depth-thinking of many conservatives. It is definately a keeper and I will share with some right wingers.

  • Frank J. Schneider

    Re: #14: “You believe the wealthiest Americans are “job creators,” and they are…” They are not! This is not really true in the sense that the same amount of money, when given to middle class and lower earners, will actually create MORE jobs (regardless of where they are located) then when given to the wealthy. They will spend the money, out of necessity, and that is what creates the jobs.

    • Bruce Lindner

      Point made, Frank. The fact is, only a steady demand for goods and services creates jobs — but putting that in my list would have deprived me of the device I needed to make my point; that wealthy industrialists have sent 8 million American jobs abroad. And that’s the reality we’re living with today, that conservatives are reluctant to acknowledge.

      • Just thought I’d toss this into the mix– The H-1B work visa program is still going as well. I lost a job in 2001 over that program. I was “replaced” by two workers from India. Was a nice payer; $45 per hour. Wonder what the replacements got paid ? I was semi-happy that that company tanked in the dot-com bubble burst..

        The point is that we are still IMPORTING WORKERS to take our jobs.

  • Webster- here’s the thing… I seriously doubt he had any well thought out political agenda, but he WAS anti-government and anti-immigration.
    Who does that sound most like?

  • americans are fucked up…no matter how u slice it YOU are all fucked up…beynd repair…china is coming to turn america into one big giant factory city..:)

  • I’d take the comment about Mr. Bachmann off the list. We have friends who have lived closeted lives, denied who they were, and suffered in silence for years. Is he gay? I don’t know. Is his work to “fix” gay people wrong, absolutely. Is it my place to publicly “out” him? I don’t think so.

    • Frank J. Schneider

      Jana – Do you know something that my “gay-dar” isn’t already telling me?

    • Someone who publicly runs for office or helps a spouse run for office who hypocritically promotes homophobic policies for others, should be outed in order for voters to make an informed decision. Being publicly outed is the price one should pay if running for public office.

  • Conservativenotrepublican

    For #10, he was NOT conservative. This is a lie told to bring about the fairness doctrine to light by blaming deaths on the “Republican rhetoric”. When his room was investigated a lot of communist material was found in his room. There was no evidence to his listening to Limbaugh, Beck, Fox News, or any other conservative shows. It’s amazing that the one party who coined the phrase of “tone down the rhetoric” is the one who is so quickly ramping it up again.

    • Bruce Lindner

      Let me address this. You’re probably right, Loughner wasn’t a conservative in the traditional fiscal/moral values sense of the word. I think he’s just your garden variety crazy person. HOWEVER…. When I compiled this list yesterday, I wanted to point out how it was the RIGHT who tried to paint him as a liberal, which is absurd. You had Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage, all contorting the facts to suggest this guy was anything but a right ringer, and even went so far as to say that he had “leftist tendencies.” Pure crap. As I stated in my article, what we do know about him is this: He was a gun nut who targeted a Jewish, pro-choice, pro gay rights Democrat, which by any definition, CONFIRMS that he wasn’t in any way a leftist. That should have been more clear in my post, but there’s only so much room, and so little time.

      As for “ramping up the rhetoric,” what do you think of Rick Perry’s comments yesterday? Uh-huh… Cry me a river.

      • You’re a blithering idiot. Gabby Gifford was very pro second amendment and always voted that way. So was she a gun nut too? You’re one of those morons who thinks that the founding fathers were really serious when they wrote the first and fourth amendment but they were just “joking” when they wrote the second. Why don’t you go give your money to some illegal alien and smoke a joint

        • And YOU are one of those idiots who think the Second Amendment was meant for AK-47s.

          NEWSFLASH: The Second Amendment was meant for Muskets.

          • Bruce Lindner

            Gotta love that “illegal alien” crack. And they wonder why anyone would suggest the Conservative Movement is rife with xenophobes and bigots.

          • See my reply above at the top.. the 2nd amendment is as much for ak47s as the first amendment is for the internet! I mean hell if the founding fathers knew there would be a medium that could pass information all over the planet in an instant, they NEVER would have supported freedom of speech right? Why do so many ignorant tools constantly think they have any Constitutional understanding when they just regurgitate some crap Barbara Boxer says?!

            • I think you have it backasswards, dude. I think Jefferson and Madison and Washington, et al, would have LOVED the internet but would have been scared shirtless to see citizens with mass destruction abilities.
              Just my take….

        • Bruce Lindner

          Marc, do you think being a supporter of the 2nd Amendment means you should appear where the president is speaking with a loaded gun strapped to your thigh? Do you think that’s why Gaby Giffords was pro-2nd Amendment, so that you could use it to intimidate others, or for use in “militias?” Being a gun nut doesn’t mean you’re pro-2nd Amendment, anymore than being a religious fanatic means you’re pro-1st Amendment. It means you believe you can use a GUN to settle your differences with those you disagree with.

          And since you mentioned the Founding Fathers, are you so obtuse that you actually believe they could envision the kind of hardware we have today, vs the muskets and simple hunting rifiles of the 18th Century? If there were more folks like you in power, everyone would have a right to keep and bear nukes.

          • Are you so obtuse to think the founding fathers could envision TV radio internet or other mass media? How could freedom of speech be allowed? Did the founding fathers envision Scientology? Does freedom of religion apply? But let me guess.. they of course could envision “gay” marriage so under the 9th Amendment that’s OK… right? Of course it is…….

  • The Platzner Post

    Funny!!! : )

  • Marko Freimann

    It is articles like this that make all conservatives sound like dimwits. Real conservatives don’t agree with this bull. This is why we need a third party, I am sick of the GOP.

    • There is a viable 3rd party candidate running without corporate support or a tunnel-visioned ideology. http://www.berke4president.com
      The government must be restored to the people.

    • If “real conservatives don’t agree with this bull,” then where are the “real conservatives” hiding? In what way are the conservatives controlling Congress and sitting in governors’ offices all across the country not the real conservatives?

      You may not recognize it. You may not like it. But this IS real conservatism as it stands today. You don’t need a third political party to join; you need to accept that you’re NOT a real conservative by today’s standards (then again, neither would Reagan be), and join the side of reason.

      Or at leas the side that’s much, much closer to reason.

    • Bruce Lindner

      I’ll give you my honest non-snarky answer Marko; You’re absolutely right! This is no longer your father’s GOP. The inmates are now running the asylum. If Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan or Everett Dirksen were to somehow come back from the dead and take a look at their party, they’d all jump ship and become Democrats. And for that, I blame the Republican Party leadership. Had it not been for the more moderate Republicans trying to appease the radicals by giving them a seat at the table, NONE of this would have been possible. Instead, we have a Republican Party that isn’t so much conservative in the classic sense of the word, as it is insane. Just opposing everything Obama does isn’t a policy. It’s pure, unadulterated obstruction. And it’s un-American.

    • Marko…Bachmann did phenomenally well in straw polls in Iowa. The people who are being held up as examples and representatives of conservatives are complete and utter morons and huge hypocrites.
      This article doesn’t do anything that conservatives haven’t ALREADY done!

      • One thing to remember about the Iowa straw polls: a voter had to pay to participate, and the person was often compensated by the campaign of the candidate. So really, all the straw poll means is the person with the most votes spent the most money.

        • As Jon Stewart so nicely pointed out last night, Bachmann spent $180,000 to pay for 6,000 votes, and she managed to get 4,800 of them to actually vote. So that’s an 80% return on her investment. She can’t even buy votes effectively.

          • Great satire, as usual from him.
            But the scary thing is that in the end, she was very effective in her purchase. She won. We’re just laughing at her because technically, she could have rigged the straw poll with less money if she were more careful.
            And other than a “liberal satirist on a comedy channel,” NO ONE has noticed that she essentially bought the election by bribing people to vote for her.
            And you know why? Because not only is it actually LEGAL to do so in this case, it is expected. The Straw Poll is more of a convention (in the business convention sense of the term) than an election.
            Problem is, what is openly welcomed in the Iowa Republican Straw Poll is quietly accepted for all politics.
            And before we start the “yeah, well both sides do it” crap, save the wear and tear on your keyboard. Yes, Democrats are not blemish free either. President Kennedy and the labor vote is a great example. But that was 50 years ago. I don’t see much voter fraud from that side of the aisle anymore, and I see plenty of suspicious activity from the the Republicans, including Deibold problems and a small state down near Cuba run by Republicans who openly guaranteed counting more votes one way than the other. And save me your ACORN crap – I don’t drink Kool-Aid, and know the difference between a voter registration drive (even a targeted one) and actual fraud.

  • Elizabeth Hagan

    Love #21. Interesting how Fox and Xtian Radio totally avoid noticing this, even to do the obvious: manage to blame it on Obama and the liberal north.

    You can bet a ton of Limbaughs (8 limbaughs, fully inflated), that if all that bad weather was happening in the blue states, it would be Absolute Evidence of God’s Wrath Upon the Eeeevuls of the Democrat[sic] Party. I’m still waiting for a storm to take out Oral Roberts U, the Crawford Ranch, Clear Channel in San Antonio, major parts of Texas, among other things. I bet more limbaughs that A. Coulter, K. Rove and G. Norquist would NEVER get on the same plane – too much Karmic temptation.

    (NOTE: All the limbaughs I win will be donated to the NWS to use as weather balloons.)

    • True. When Southern California had an epic rainstorm last winter, the Yahoo comments on the coverage were full of gleeful apocalyptic schadenfreude about “God suddenly deciding to wash away all the fruits and nuts” or “God’s judgment on their evil liberal ways” (said absolutely non-ironically.) Yes, thousands of My Fellow Americans were wishing me dead.

      But they never apply this same yardstick to their many weather troubles … unless it’s just God’s Judgment on America for Tolerating Liberals. Sigh …

  • Aquarian dreamer

    as to #10 he was conservative? i thought the kid was just plain nuts with a side order of psychotic. I hadn’t heard much about his political beliefs beyond the fact he felt all politicians were liars and cheats, and that they were trying to bring 1984 into reality. maybe I’d better go back and check that out.
    interesting list otherwise.

    • He actually wasn’t conservative, only a lunatic who hated politicians. He was neither conservative nor liberal, just had extremist views like “women shouldn’t hold positions of power” but was also atheist and had other non-conservative views. He also killed a conservative Arizona judge while attempting to kill Giffords. He was just, as you say, plain nuts with a side order of psychotic; he clearly had a mental illness and it isn’t right to identify this guy with conservatism, just as it is wrong to identify all Muslims as terrorists.

  • 23. You support both the approval of TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline and Nascar and Formula 1 racing.

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