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  1. Hypocrite23
    October 10, 2013

    I’m not Republican, in fact I find the labels divisive and polarizing. But this bothers me for two reasons. The first is of the 18 examples more than 1/2 have nothing to do with Fascism and actually have a name of their own (ie. #1 is called Jingoism, Misogyny was in there, Capitalist, etc… Etc… It concerns me when I see someone correct another with incorrect information, or criticize someone else without checking the accuracy of your own statements. If I were back in high school and just about to begin participating in politics I fear reading something presented as an example of why one ideology is preferable to educated, rational people that would have gotten an F in high school social studies would have turned me off for a long time.

    Secondly, and I know passions run high, but as someone with two close friends of different families who lost almost every single relative in the Nazi death camps, I can’t help but think how hurt they would be if they read some of the comments flippantly likening a major American political party to the Third Reich. I don’t care for vampiristic opportunists like Sarah Palin, and abhor their insulting and shameful tactics, but her blatant dishonesty and exploitation of peoples fear is a far cry from genocide. I find most of the conservative republican people I encounter to be misguided, intellectually lazy and prone to approach issues that require bit of reason and logic with blind emotion, but in many cases that’s true of the Democrats as well. More importantly, I’ve never met either a Republican or a Democrat that wants things to get worse for anybody. Especially their own descendants. So to openly refer to members of an American political party as Nazis is at best shamefully ignorant and thoughtless; and more likely intentionally mean spirited, embarrassingly stupid. If you can’t imagine the octogenarian, lifelong democrat that lives across the street from me who watched what members of her family who weren’t shot in front of her slowly perish, being horrified to discover people think that what she survived is tantamount to living in the USA under a Republican administration then you’ve reached a level of callus disregard for your fellow man that Hitler gave scholarships for.

    Call me what you like, and get it out of your system, but just think about it at some point. Think about what will actually attract someone to hear what else you have to say and whether you want to treat something as hideous and devastating as genocide casually.

    Fu** I HATE having to be the pedantic finger wagging d**k!

  2. FlatStanley
    October 10, 2013

    You better check the date “1835” associated with Sinclair Lewis. he wasn’t born until 1885, I believe. :-)

  3. Johnbgood
    June 26, 2013

    I know this is an old thread and nobody will likely see my responses, but it’s a slow night and I’m bored. Sue me. :-)

    • donaldkinge
      June 28, 2013

      Your summons is on the way ;)

  4. lark smelly
    June 5, 2012

    can we have a follow up article “you might be a good person if” and then just state the obvious

  5. diegueno
    May 29, 2012
  6. Rixar13
    May 5, 2012

    “You start unnecessary and costly wars and you are paranoid of other nations.”

    Hm,

  7. Robert Robertson
    November 24, 2011

    Here is the content of a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists, when they voiced concern about being persecuted, for not being Congregationalists. Jefferson is basically explaining the 1st Amendmen, as it applies to religion.
    “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of the government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.”

  8. Sandi
    November 20, 2011

    Gabriella, why should Liberals be considered any more fascist for trying to get people to believe what they believe than Conservatives are for trying to get people to believe what they do? BOTH of those groups have members guilty of doing that. If criticizing another’s statements is “discriminating against people (Christians) for stating their beliefs” then you are just as guilty of that as those you condemn; as that is exactly what you are doing here. You apparently don’t like what you have read from the writer and so you criticize it; the same as others do when they apparently don’t like what some Christians ( or others they may disagree with ) have to say. So how are you any better? We are all here giving our opinions by way of our “free speech” and it seems no one is stopping anyone from doing so. Maybe you should take your own “advice” (via the bible) and deal with that plank in YOUR eye, as well. You have no problem suggesting that “Democrats” enjoy “mud slinging”; all the while slinging that mud yourself! I found it revealing that you stated you don’t “curse” educated people and have “nothing against them”, and then followed it up with a “but”! That usually means there is some contrast in there somewhere. It appears you may have more against educated people than you really care to admit. Just so you know, I happen to be a Christian who believes that Democrat/Liberals are just as capable of following “GOD’S WAY” as Republican/Conservatives are. One’s belief in God really has little to do with their politics; unless of course they want it to!

    • sw99
      May 5, 2012

      Trying to get people to believe something isn’t “fascist.” It’s what they’re trying to get them to believe that matters. I don’t know who’s “discriminating against Christians.” How many cases are there of someone not hiring someone because they are Christian? In a country where the very constitution says there can be “No religious test” for public office… It’s well know you simply CAN’T be president unless you are Christian and half the campaign is trying to prove who’s the Christionist. One’s belief in God has A LOT to do with politics. It shouldn’t at all but it does.

  9. C B Harder
    November 20, 2011

    A fine,measured response.Good work Gabriella!’God gives wisdom’

  10. C B Harder
    November 20, 2011

    A fine , measured response.Good work Gadriella!’God gives wisdom’!

  11. Robert Robertson
    November 18, 2011

    You’ve obviously never heard of separation of church and state. (One of the Constitutional Amendments, believe it or not.) Also I’m quite sure most liberals are not Atheists, as you would seem to believe. What about Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Scientology? Should all these folks get to have their religious documents hanging in the courthouse too? No. Why? Because they are free to practice their religion to. But not in public schools or courthouses or congressional chambers, or anywhere else where it would break the rules of the first amendment, regarding religion.

    • Esteban Camacho
      November 20, 2011

      I challenge you: look up where in the Constitution it says that there is a separation of church and state, then reply back here. Also, tell me these “rules” of the First Amendment.

      P.S: I am in no way religious, but I don’t like inaccuracies.

      • Sandi
        November 21, 2011

        This might answer your query on the issue of separation of church and state as it applies to the Constitution. As it is suggested, the actual absence of the “exact” ( and I stress “exact” ) wording does not necessarily mean that the intention is not there. http://www.atheism.about.com/od/churchstatemyths/a/phrase.htm

        Here is something which may answer your question concerning the First Amendment. http://www.ask.com/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

      • Robert Robertson
        November 24, 2011

        @Sandi,
        Thanks for posting those links. you saved me the time.

      • Esteban Camacho
        November 24, 2011

        Saved what time, exactly? She posted something that proved you wrong. You specifically said that the “Separation of Church and State” was a COnstitutional Amendment, proving once more that you don’t seem too educated on the issues.

      • Esteban Camacho
        November 24, 2011

        As the first article says: the 1st amendment protects against theocracy and the government control of individual religious beliefs. The issue I have with people is that they use the phrase “Separation of Church and State” as if it was in the Constitution.

        Robert RObinson said “You have obviously never heard of the separation of church and state (one of the Constitutional Amendments, believe it or not)” which is incorrect, because it is not an amendment.

        All I was trying to prove was that, nothing else. I know very well that it does not need to say “Separate church and state” in order for the phrase to apply.

        Also, some individuals exaggerate the use, as it was only meant to protect against theocracy and individual liberty.

      • Robert Robertson
        November 27, 2011

        I stand corrected separation of church and state is not “the” first amendment. It IS part of the 1st amendment. I’m no history major but I’m pretty sure a lot of folks moved to this country from England, so they could practice their religion freely, no matter what religion it might have been. Keeping the government out of religion is something the forefathers wanted. Mostly because they didn’t want their politicians dictating which religion they practiced. I am not a religious individual. I DO believe that people have the right to practice whatever religion they want to. I DON’T think the government should have anything to do with religion. Recently some Christians got upset that Obama didn’t mention God in his Thanksgiving address. Was anyone upset that he didn’t mention Mohammed or Buddha? Maybe but all of these people should realize there’s a place for religion and there’s a place forgovernment. And never the twain shall meet.

      • maxdname
        May 5, 2012

        um… it’s the making of laws (“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”) that are prohibited. By extension (the logical nexus) any law which is “God’s law,” by mandate, as that would “[P]rohibit the free exercise thereof (of religion)…” would “fail on it’s face” (to use the legal term).
        i.e. Same sex marriage.

      • maxdname
        May 5, 2012

        So really, there IS a separation of Church and State but in regards to lawmaking only. The Pres. can do whatever he/she wants but can’t ever push it into law (The Pres. doesn’t make laws, anyway–that’s the Legislative Branch function).

      • Ronald Wall
        September 25, 2013

        Esteban Camacho: This idea that the First Amendment do not use the exact words, “separation of church and state” is an old conservative, right wing Christian argument. Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Samuel Adams all made it abundantly clear that it was the intention of the First Amendment was to create a solid wall between church and state. Your argument clearly comes out of your ignorance.

  12. Gabriella
    November 17, 2011

    It also sounds like you all.

    Yeah you all are pretty judgmental,

    “11. You are obsessed with Christianity. You seek to declare a Christian State and to impose religious laws on all the people across the country and the world. You believe other religions are inferior and that those who practice them should either be converted or destroyed.” Yet Islam is not accused of being so when they are trying to do it, God is part of our history, he’s what lead our four fathers, he was the one that bless us with this land but yet people lay waste to what he’s given us. Liberals are fascist just for trying to make people believe what they believe and to take away the rights of americans, including free speech and oh yeah legally discriminating against Christians for expressing beliefs. Its wrong to say we can’t have the Ten Commandments displayed at the courthouse because your an Atheist and expect people not to discriminate against you, its abuse of rights and its discrimination, honestly God was put on everything to remind people that he exist and blessed us with this land.

    You all don’t realized, you described yourselves and your “About Us” doesn’t help. Just replace “Christian” and a variety terms in this article.

    “Deal with the plank in your eye before you go picking the speck of dust in someone else’s.” – The Bible

    “Do unto others as you want them to do unto you.” – The Bible(One of the Ten Commandments, believe it or not)

    Thats what you all want but yet Democrats expect that after “mud slinging”.

    [I know people object to having the Bible taught outside of Church but theres a lot you can learn from it.]

    I don’t curse educated people, nothing against them, I actually like to talk to them but I’ve met plenty of people with PHD’s that are all science and lack the humanity, they pretty much think that medication solves everything because they were taught to think that way. Also there the Bible College people that think they have no more to learn except everything they were taught to preach in college, emphasis on my dad and some “TV Ministers”. Knowledge without wisdom = Religious = Not God’s way. God gives wisdom.

    • Count Bubba
      November 20, 2011

      Cease your blathering you foolish nitwit.

    • Azalaksh
      May 5, 2012

      Gabriella wrote: “I don’t curse educated people, nothing against them, I actually like to talk to them but I’ve met plenty of people with PHD’s that are all science and lack the humanity”…..
      Well I don’t curse religious people, nothing against them, I actually like to talk to them but I’ve met plenty of born-again Christians that are all Bible-thumpers yet lack the humanity.

    • The Historian
      June 24, 2012

      I do not usually comment hate versus intellectual discussion, however, you are incorrect to identify “Do unto others as you want them to do unto you” as one of the Ten Commandments. It is actually a variation of the Golden Rule which is found in EVERY religion. Too bad we don’t see the wisdom of following it.

      • Johnbgood
        June 26, 2013

        The earliest written occurrence of the idea of reciprocity – treating others as you would be treated – that I’m aware of is contained in the Code of Hammurabi, a Babylonian legal code which predates Christianity by nearly two thousand years.

        Hammurabi’s rule took the concept a bit further than the simple “Golden Rule” by also providing for just punishment in the case of wrongdoing. Unduly harsh penalties for minor offenses were outlawed.

  13. hg
    November 16, 2011

    In all fairness, I see Obama’s administration in more than half of these. I’m pretty sure 95% of the elected officials would identify with most of these.

  14. Pam Ellis
    November 16, 2011

    If there was a version of this with a bit less loaded language, I would tweet it and forward it.
    As it is now, the people that need to read it will not see themselves in it.

    • Robert Robertson
      November 16, 2011

      Thanks for this link. I think it does a better job of explaining Fascism than the original article.

  15. scott
    November 16, 2011

    you are all a bunch of idiots actually. you liberal c#########s are trying to say conservatives are fascist. and you conservative c#########s are trying to say liberals are fascist. in fact there are similarities on both sides. as with pretty much every other thing in the world. if you look hard enough for a commonality, you are sure to find one. neither side is 100 percent right or justified. atrocities are committed on both sides. and behind our backs they (the conservatives and liberals in power,i.e. elected officials) are cohorts. strange bed fellows if you will. they are fucking ALL of the rest of us. they have pitted you against each other while they grow stronger. so keep up your petty squabbles and see where it gets you. have a great day :)

  16. NEO
    November 15, 2011

    Funny how liberals aren’t allowed to use the same fallacies and rhetoric as conservatives without getting an earfull.

    • Johnbgood
      June 26, 2013

      Conservatives believe in freedom of speech only when they approve of what’s being said.

  17. Stephannie
    November 15, 2011

    Please copy-edit your articles. What you have here is great stuff, but when people read things like “You also your race in superior to all others”, which is missing a verb AND has a wrong word (in for is), it dilutes the message.

    Just trying to be helpful.

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