Fox Hosts Say Frat Rapes Are The Fault Of Drunk Women (VIDEO)

The hosts of the Fox show "Outnumbered" demonstrate rape culture at work by blaming drunk women for the frat house rape problem. Image Credit: The Raw Story

The hosts of the Fox show “Outnumbered” demonstrate rape culture at work by blaming drunk women for the frat house rape problem.
Image Credit: The Raw Story

If you had any doubt that we live in a rape culture, the hosts of the Fox show Outnumbered have cleared that up for you. The two hosts, Andrew Tantaros and Kirsten Powers agreed with a wildly offensive column written by now former Forbes columnist Bill Frezza entitled Drunk Female Guests are the Gravest Threat to Fraternities. The column, which came complete with a photo of a drunken, nearly unconscious woman lying on the floor drinking wine, has now been removed and has caused Forbes to terminate its relationship with Frezza. In the column, Frezza said:

[W]e have very little control over women who walk in the door carrying enough pre-gaming booze in their bellies to render them unconscious before the night is through. Based on new standards being promulgated on campus, all consent is null and void the minute a woman becomes intoxicated — even if she is your fiancée. In our age of sexual equality, why drunk female students are almost never characterized as irresponsible jerks is a question I leave to the feminists.

Now, apparently Mr. Frezza is one of those men who has an issue with laws surrounding consent and the circumstances under which one can consent to sexual activity. This is no surprise, as many uninformed (or just plain piggish) men do. What is shocking is that two female hosts sat on national television and agreed with him, saying that drunk women should take “personal responsibility” to make sure they don’t get raped. That sounds like victim blaming to me. Tantaros even expressed concern for the fraternity system, saying that it is a “legitimate fear” that drunken victims of sexual assault could lead to the breakdown of America’s college frat system. So, in other words, she is more worried about frat boys than rape victims. Great priorities there, lady. Tantaros argued:

I don’t know why this writer is taking so much heat because this is actually a problem that goes on. These girls show up at these fraternity houses. The guys, what are they supposed to do? Lock them out? ‘Hey, how are you?’ They have a couple more beers, the girl passes out… so it is a legitimate fear.

What are they supposed to do? Um, how about not rape a clearly intoxicated woman? How hard can it be? If someone is clearly drunk, don’t attempt to have sex with her. It really is that simple.

Another co-host on the show, Kennedy Montgomery, took a more reasonable approach, saying that not letting drunk women into frat houses is “exactly” what should happen in these situations. Tantaros, however, continued to blame the women:

They walk up to guys’ rooms, they get lost in the fraternity house. Maybe they get drunk as the night goes on playing beer pong.

Well, while these things may happen, Ms. Tantaros, where in there is an invitation to be sexually assaulted? Nowhere, and to insinuate that there is…well, that is supporting rape culture.

Yet another co-host, Sandra Smith, also took a more reasonable approach, saying that the problem of these drunken frat house rapes could be  “the fault of the fraternities that have… no policies to handle this.” She went on to say:

Don’t let them in the door in the first place. Call somebody, get some help, don’t let them in the door.

Now, having been to a large university where this sort of thing happened quite often myself, I can say that not letting drunk people into a frat house on party night just isn’t going to happen. It is not a practical suggestion. However, at least Montgomery and Smith aren’t blaming the women for their own assaults here.

While Tantaros eventually relented and said that  “girls getting too drunk and men taking advantage of them” is a problem, she still went on to blame the women, saying:

However, where’s the personal responsibility for both sides?

While I can agree that getting drunk in a frat house with a bunch of drunken frat boys is not the smartest thing to do, we have to remember something. We’re not talking about experienced adult women here. We’re talking about girls away from home for the first time who likely have very little experience with this sort of thing. They are thinking about having fun and making friends at college. They are not thinking that they are going to go to a party and get raped, and nor should they have to. That’s the issue here. Nobody should have to worry about being raped on a college campus in a fraternity.

Kirsten Powers went on to agree with Tantaros:

It makes the drunk girl completely clean no matter what happens — and again, we have to say it because some cuckoo person is going to start blogging how we are supporting women getting raped, which we do not support. And she is not guilty or any of those things, but the point is that the drunk woman is — she’s just not held accountable for anything. The drunk guy, however, is supposed to make all these amazingly perfect decisions, and not make any mistakes.

Ah, but Ms. Powers, what you don’t  understand is that when you try to hold a rape victim accountable for her own assault, you are supporting rape as well as rape culture, and that is absolutely shameful coming from a woman. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the face of rape culture.

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