Is Ron Paul A White Supremacist? Absolutely!
I don't have anything against black people, I just don't think I should have to eat with them in public places. Or use the same bathroom. Or the same water fountain. Or sit next to them on a bus.
Oh, he’s not REALLY a white supremacist; He just happens to support them, take their money and advance their goals. But he’s not ONE of them!!! He’s all about freedom!!!
The freedom to legally discriminate against minorities, at any rate.
Oh, right! I forgot, he’s also the chosen candidate of white supremacists.
From The Michigan Messenger:
Stormfront.org, a white supremacyweb site, as well as others, such as WhiteWorldNews.com, have actively supported Paul’s bid for the presidency, including directing donors to his campaign. Stormfront has also endorsed Paul for president.
“Once in a great while a presidential candidate is presented to us. A candidate who not only speaks to us, but for us…I am supporting Ron Paul in his run for the presidency,” the Stormfront endorsement says. The endorsement praises Paul’s plans to reduce taxes, close the borders and eliminate trade deals, such as NAFTA.
Riiiiight. Because no other Republicans support ANY of those particular goals. Now, granted, this article is from the 2008 election cycle. One might be tempted to dismiss it. after all, the KKK simply adores Obama as a recruitment tool. But this is not a recent phenomena.
Ron Paul is a hard core racist. This is a known but little reported fact. He has published a newsletter for over thirty years that puts forth a steady stream of stunning racism:
Paul’s alliance with neo-Confederates helps explain the views his newsletters have long espoused on race. Take, for instance, a special issue of the Ron Paul Political Report,published in June 1992, dedicated to explaining the Los Angeles riots of that year. “Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began,” read one typical passage. According to the newsletter, the looting was a natural byproduct of government indulging the black community with “‘civil rights,’ quotas, mandated hiring preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black tv shows, black tv anchors, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda.” It also denounced “the media” for believing that “America’s number one need is an unlimited white checking account for underclass blacks.”…
“Oh, but that was just ONE article at a very emotional time for the country!” you say?
This “Special Issue on Racial Terrorism” was hardly the first time one of Paul’s publications had raised these topics. As early as December 1989, a section of hisInvestment Letter, titled “What To Expect for the 1990s,” predicted that “Racial Violence Will Fill Our Cities” because “mostly black welfare recipients will feel justified in stealing from mostly white ‘haves.’” Two months later, a newsletter warned of “The Coming Race War,” and, in November 1990, an item advised readers, “If you live in a major city, and can leave, do so. If not, but you can have a rural retreat, for investment and refuge, buy it.” In June 1991, an entry on racial disturbances in Washington, DC’s Adams Morgan neighborhood was titled, “Animals Take Over the D.C. Zoo.” “This is only the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s,” the newsletter predicted. In an October 1992 item about urban crime, the newsletter’s author–presumably Paul–wrote, “I’ve urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense. For the animals are coming.” That same year, a newsletter described the aftermath of a basketball game in which “blacks poured into the streets of Chicago in celebration. How to celebrate? How else? They broke the windows of stores to loot.” The newsletter inveighed against liberals who “want to keep white America from taking action against black crime and welfare,” adding, “Jury verdicts, basketball games, and even music are enough to set off black rage, it seems.”
Well, how about that? It seems like Mr. Paul’s publication has a long history of really nasty racism.
“But he says he never wrote those articles and did not realize what was going into the newsletter…” you say?
You’re right! He does say that! Dozens of racist articles over several years and somehow nobody ever mentioned it to him? That’s his excuse? Spare me! That’s about as plausible as Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin converting to Islam and donning burkas.
Praise Allah! You bet'cha!
But nowhere is Ron Paul’s barely concealed racism more evident than in his full throated rejection of the Civil Rights Act. Because it infringed on people’s “freedom.”
From the May 13 episode of Hardball with Chris Matthew:
MATTHEWS: But you would have voted for the — you know you — oh, come on. Honestly, Congressman, you were not for the ’64 civil rights bill.
PAUL: Because — because of the property rights element, not because it got rid of the Jim Crow law.
MATTHEWS: Right. The guy who owns a bar says, no blacks allowed, you say that’s fine. … This was a local shop saying no blacks allowed. You say that should be legal?
PAUL: That’s — that’s ancient history. That’s ancient history. That’s over and done with. [...]
Discrimination based on race is ancient history? I wish I could live in that world! That would be awesome! There would be no Tea Party, no GOP, no Fox News. What a nice place that would be…
But for those of us still connected to reality, Mr. Paul’s assertions are that of a lunatic. Right Wing fanatics protest the building of a mosque in their town and that is a Constitutionally protected right. What kind of person can see that and thinks “Eh, nobody would ban Negroes from their establishment if they were allowed to. People just aren’t like that anymore.”?
The freedom to discriminate is not the kind of freedom this country stands for anymore. In that, at least, Mr. Paul is correct. It’s ancient history and we will not allow Right Wing bigots to turn back the clock to “The Good Ol’ Days.”
Read more about Ron Paul’s racism here.
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2:54 am
A whois search for WhiteWorldNews.com reveals the domain name is registered to Jamie Kelso, owner of the American Third Party (A3P) website along with a number of other white nationalist websites.
http://domains.whois.com/domain.php
8:41 am
Ron Paul is a member of the bourgeoisie who believes in class hegemony, wage slavery, and the myth of private property.
6:22 am
A few months ago when I first became aware of this issue I thought he was some kind innofensive semi-bigot, someone who was for peace, whose core program and speech wasn’t about blacks but who had written such remarks because he was disgusted by the images of the riots. You know some whites will make anti-black remarks one day because of a bad experience that just happened with a group of them, and 3 days later they no longer pay attention to blacks when they cool down.
And then I realized that he never claimed such things verbally in front of a camara, neither during the years before, neither int he years that followed. 1989-1992 is mostly a period during which he resumed his private medical practice and withdrawed from politic:
“Ron Paul & Associates (RP&A), Inc. was initiated during 1984 by Paul, who served as President. Llewellyn H Rockwell Jr. served as Vice President, Ron Paul’s wife Carol served as Secretary and Lori Pyeatt as Treasurer.” In 1985 Ron Paul & Associates began publishing The Ron Paul Investment Letter and The Ron Paul Survival Report; it added the more controversial Ron Paul Political Report during 1987.
So a series of ghost writters, including Murray Rothbard, wrote occasionally in those numerous issues but Paul was no longer involved with this after the 1988 presidential election.
And now the strange pattern: Herman Cain did not hesitate to attack illegal immigrants and to talk about a fence with alligators and he mentioned how they would be electrocuted on this fence, the crowd cheered when he said that. His popularity among the voters skyrocket because he knows which langage to use with many white GOP voters. Bashing the blacks is not politically correct, but bashing hispanics is “IN” because you can always say later “oh, it’s not about race, it’s just because they came here illegally”. So Bachman, Romney and especially Cain compete for the biggest double our triple fence and it’s very popular to let the crowd believe that you’re gonna fry those Mexicans on the fence. But Paul refuse to follow them regarding the fence, and he openly used the words “scapegoating the immigrants”. Not surprisingly he fail to rise in the polls like Cain. And there are many videos where he denounce the US policy in Iraq in the 1990′s, not just because of the cost, his concern is about innocents who are killed.The words that he used, the facial expression, he is outlefting the most humanist leftist that you can imagine. Bashing muslims is “IN”, Herman Cain understood it; trying to argue that you have no moral right to kill a family of “ragheads” and throw napalm on their babies is “OUT” when you want the GOP nomination. And THIS GUY is supposed to have written these very unpolitically correct sentences?
No way. He was guilty of negligence when he returned to medecine and let Lew Rockwell ( ho used to be much closer to white racist movements) take all the business and let him continue to use his name to write all those papers and newsletters, but nobody of a sane mind believed that Paul wrote this. Even Nelson Linder, the president of the Austin chapter of the NAACP, didn’t swallow the claims that Paul was behind this.
6:07 am
Well said. Thank you
11:58 am
Assume you are correct. How is such a tool qualified to run the USA? Anybody with a theory of US Federal government based on Ayn Rand, who lived on the fed and government dollar when her incessant smoking caused her lung cancer (or was it emissions from John Galt factories) has more than a single screw loose. Blame Lew Rockwell if you like, but Dr. Paul is his fellow traveler.
6:55 pm
Yeah, because if one black person makes a video about him, he cant possibly be racist. Let me guess, your one of those people who can’t possibly be racist because you have that one black friend…
6:51 pm
Luckily, that lunatic Ron Paul has no chance at election. Racist remarks may seem irrelevant to you, but it’s very important to me. You really have the nerve to compare today’s economy to the great depression? Really? I have a feeling that while you are sitting comfortably at a computer or using your iphone to read and reply to this article, that you have a home to sleep at tonight and food to eat for dinner. You are a classic whiner, complaining about how hard it is to grow your garden, when there are people with real problems in the world and in this country.
11:29 am
Photos of RP with Stormfront founder Don Black and his son: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1949179685844&set=a.1292422307320.45056.1133137246&type=1 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1949179805847&set=a.1292422307320.45056.1133137246&type=1
8:04 am
It’s because of people with your sentiment that I’m having to get groped at the airport. Sentiment like yours is going to make it impossible for me to grow my own garden thereby having access to healthy food. It’s because of people with your sentiment that this country is going through a depression worse than the great depression. Because people that think like you (and the author of this blog) care more about supposed racist “remarks” by politicians that have actually put their money where their mouths are than to worry about the REAL issues I’M going to have to suffer even more losses of freedom. Crawl back under your rock. We’ll call you when the elections are over…for my sake (and yours) hopefully Ron Paul will be our president.
10:14 am
I love how you take little snippets of his quotes and arrange them as you please. Absurd!
Also: we are talking about 1964. This guy was born and raised in Texas, in an extremely racist area. Give him a break on that vote. He’s championing FREEDOM for EVERYONE right now.
10:58 am
He spewed exactly the same crap through the 80′s and 90′s. This isnt one vote, it’s a pattern of behaviour. And he’s not championing freedom for everyone… he’s championing freedom for the rich, like most “Libertarians”. Well, the rich already have their freedom, so fuck ‘em.
9:44 am
I think you mean, freedom for everybody who’s Christian and doesn’t have a uterus.
11:14 am
A hate group sees Ron Paul as the one candidate who’ll reduce taxes, close the borders and eliminate trade deals, such as NAFTA.
-Gee, that means I must LOVE those things like the open borders and taxing the lower middle classes and trade deals that benefit the global banksters like NAFTA & GATT right?
OMG! I heard that Ron Paul puts his pants on one leg at a time- HITLER also put his pants on one leg at a time! Hitler also fought a war on cancer and was anti-smoking. I’m glad to know that now since I was begining to think those things are bad for us.
10:38 am
I might be impressed by your attempt at commentary, had it not been so obvious you hadn’t actually read the article.
3:38 pm
Did a 16 year old write this for speech class? I hope so because that’s exactly the impression I got so if anyone passed their teens wrote this then I’m woefully pessimistic about the future of American society. Nothing but unsubstantiated opinions and silly pictures with excessive use of Photoshop as if that helps drive home your point. I bet the kid that wrote this shit was up in arms about Sarah Palin and the right-wing going after Obama because he “pals around with terrorists” yet still goes after Ron Paul because supposedly the editors at StormFront like his rhetoric? Ron Paul has never made public statements that suggest any ill-feelings towards minorities and, as far as I know, has not made those comments in private either. This article is baseless and I would have ignored it but it was just so god-damned stupid I had to let someone know.
6:54 pm
I SINCERELY like posts like yours.
It showcases your political ineptitude AND shows that people who think like you can’t back up their assertions with facts, and can’t discredit things they agree with with facts.
You didn’t present one fact to contradict this article, just criticized how it was written. Look up “flailing”. It’s NOT “failing”, even though you’re doing both right now.
4:22 pm
“Ron Paul is a hard core racist. This is a known but little reported fact.” So apparently people’s ill-informed opinions are now facts? Give me a break.
If Ron Paul is such an overt racist, why would a black person make a video like this(this is not the only one mind you):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6sYZxZi4qQ
Also, Ron Paul wants to end the War on Drugs, which we all know targets minorities:
http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/raceinc.html
There are your facts, and by the way using all capital letters does not make you smarter, unfortunately for you.
3:59 pm
why exactly was my post “moderated” away…
10:17 am
You can’t just take people’s speeches and rearrange 3-word snippets of it to fulfill what you want to say! This article has no facts or reasoning, and the way it presents itself proves nothing. That’s the point he’s making. This post is the thing that showcases its political ineptitude and inability to back up assertions with facts.
10:13 am
Who ever wrote and endorces this pathetically obvious hit peice is not only a mental midget, but a hypocrite, liar and minority supremacist.
10:32 am
I think it is pretty obvious that Zionist ADL,IDF,SPLC, etc agents are responding favorably to “Rosario’s” hit peice. Why? So they can advance their minority supremacist agenda by pretending to be average citizens who agree with this claptrap. This of course in hopes of changing public preception in their favor though their typically nefarious tactics.
1:00 am
Wow how enlightening! Before I read this article, I had no idea that politicians are the sum of a minority of their supporters (Barack Obama is obviously a Black Panther anti-white genocidal radical *nods*). And I had no idea that by supporting the rights of others to conduct non-essential business with who they choose to, makes me a racist!
If you hadn’t posted those context-free quotes and then extrapolated on them with your own words and summations without posting the originals, I don’t know what I would have done!
We can’t discriminate anymore either? I guess I better marry the first person I see on the street!
10:58 am
I know right. These peoples ideas of liberty is so out in left field I can’t even believe they are taken seriously.
We need more government like a hole in the head. I guess these people forget that it was government that allowed slavery to become an institution. I guess these people forget it was agents of the state, policemen that were stringing up blacks in the south. To assume less government would cause a return to Jim Crowe when government is what instituted Jim Crowe is laughable at best and lunacy at worst.
5:28 pm
Why is it that people say that right-wingers are Nazis? Is it because Nazis were racially supremacist and conservatives are all white supremacist, ergot they’re Nazis?
Nazi means national socialism and is opposed to capitalism and communism. It’s a unique ideology but if I had to equate it to a modern political ideology it would be racially and fascistically left, as it is a government structured society of meritocracy for a nationally specific group.
I’m curious how leftists like this author explain that national socialists states like Germany was and communist states like China and Cuba all have mass graves in their recent histories. Certainly those things stood out to me.
All being right wing means is that equality is an artificial and unenforceable paradigm. Some people win, and thats okay, and some people lose. That’s okay too. In the end it really doesn’t matter, because even if you weren’t given equal opportunity to succeed as some ivy league kid, at least your entire family wasn’t machine gunned to death and burned before being thrown in a ditch with everyone else who happened to be offensive to the egalitarian principle.
I swear, leftists I will never understand. How do you force people to be equal? How do you even measure equality? Can you even measure something like that? What if there was a system set up that was every man for himself, and his own, and no-one should have an unfair advantage over anyone else? What if there was a system in which at least the inceptions could be guaranteed absolute equality, because there is no way to really guarantee equal outcomes?
Oh wait, we already had that system. It was these United States of America, who last time I checked, made the greatest art, the greatest science, the greatest everything and were the most loving, charitable people on earth. It’s too bad that all this freedom is wasted on people like this author.
I’m sure if he wasn’t inventing racist arguments and promoting the political ideology of mass murder all the time he might have been able to write a beautiful novella, or paint a painting about life that was just a little bit prettier, a little bit sunnier, just a little bit better than what exists.
Lots of people look at our situation and say we can’t stop these wars. We can’t let druggies out of prison and into hospitals. We can’t stop exploiting Mexicans. A lot of people look around and say “Why Not?” Ron Paul has the courage to look at the world and say “why?”
His ideology has changed my life.
Signed,
Someone you’d like to paint as a racist
6:47 pm
The Socialist in NAZI had nothing to do with NAZI ideology. Hitler was intensely capitalist. That fact doesn’t make capitalism bad, that is for overly greedy capitalists to do. Ron Paul is no Hitler but he still wants to exploit everyone he can. Freedom: he means the freedom to run unfettered over everyone you can. Freedom: The freedom to hire goons to maim or kill anyone who is willing to stand up for decent treatment in wages and living conditions. That is the freedom that Ron Paul stands for, to make things like they were back in “the good old days”.
1:06 am
Good wages and living conditions are earned through hard work. Not hand outs and political favors. And no, there is a natural law to individual and communal safety. But please continue tobe an ignorant shill.
7:37 pm
You are all being duped or too polite. Ron Paul is a NAZI. He takes money from them – Stormfront, WAR, and Christian Identity. Intelligent observers know Lew Rockwell and/or Ron Paul authored the racist articles. There’s no mystery here. I believe Hate Crimes are illegal. Shouldn’t those who promote them be locked up for the good of society? It’s past time for Paul to be behind bars.
10:54 am
You sir are an idiot. You just equated a man that has been fighting a drug war stating it unfairly targets minorities to a group that murdered 6 million people. Way to diminish the horror that was Nazi Germany. I assume you went to public school
10:17 am
YOU DIGBAT!! Under your thinking, all the candidates are “white supremacists” etc, because every single one of them recieve monies from individuals from ALL political and religious sectors. Hate crime? Can a person get more pathetically dumbed down? If what Ron Paul has ever said is a “hate crime”, then you would be engaging in a hate crime right now….hypocrite!
10:45 pm
To even attempt to paint anyone as anything without actually talking the the person shows two things.
1) Most bloggers are not, and never will be real journalists, they are people with opinions based on other peoples opinions and don’t really ever do primary source research or first hand research. So essentially they are playing the telephone game and gossiping like school children
2)The age of responsible journalism has indeed come to an end. The corporate news apparatus that has so degraded our media has filtered down and poisoned peoples ability to critically think.
Lets try some logic
To assume Ron Paul is a racist from news letters not signed by him but simply in a newsletter that used his name without talking to the man, researching his background, interviewing constituents or researching his record is to assume you are some how able to read the mind and soul of another without knowing them. Since no one can do that even when they do know someone it is a logical fallacy
To assume Ron Paul is a racist because he received a campaign contribution from a white supremacist while believing Barrack Obama is not a racist for receiving campaign contributions from La Raza and the Black Panthers, who donated more to him than any white supremacist group has to Ron Paul.
Guilt by association is the dumbest fallacies there is
For those that will not take the time to research Ron Paul and his statements over the past 30 years and his voting record which clearly show this author is wrong on every level, this if for you.
To continue to assume Ron Paul is a racist despite many constituents, black leaders, his voting record and the NAACP stating to the contrary is to assume that you believe his constituents, the black leaders and and especially the NAACP who’s job it is to research this type of accusation and who have access to all this information you do, and took the time to research him and interview him are derelict in their duty and you, who have never met him know the true Ron Paul. Your belief that you know the true Ron Paul without ever meeting him while ignoring constituents and black leaders and believing the NAACP are derelict in their duty could be construed as racist in and of itself if I did not have the ability to think logically. Luckily, I do have the ability to think logically so I know you are not a racist and simply are vane to the point where you do not have the ability to admit to yourself that you could possibly be wrong, and that the blog or news you get your information from is also wrong.
As for the author of this article who’s vanity I can find no justification for at least in this article since it is so poorly researched as to not even be worth the time reading it. I suggest you get a day job because journalism, not your strong suit. You should probably take a few research courses if you plan on making it outside of the blog-o-sphere because this article is an epic failure.
Why did you erase this the first time? Can you not handle having your logic proven false? Or are you simply incapable of backing up your ridiculous claims in an educated manner so you have to erase a comment that shows how ridiculous your logic in this article is?
9:06 pm
Item #1
Ron’s rebuttal in his own words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u39z38xjraw
Item #2
Ron Paul has written over 1,000 articles and speeches and the only time that he has spoken about racism is to condemn it as in the following:
“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals . . . By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racists . . . we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.”
Item #3
In the many books that Ron Paul has written the only time he talks about blacks is to praise MLK, Rosa Parks and to condemn economic policies that he thinks are adversely affecting blacks.
Item #4
Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks and Gandhi are heroes of Ron Paul.
Item #5
Ron Paul’s next money bomb was scheduled for MLK day long before the story even broke!
Item #6
White nationalists are now very angry with Ron Paul and planning protests against him because of the previous Item:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/ml-king-money-bomb-day-451428.html
Item #7
Racism goes against the libertarian mindset see Item #2
Item #8
In the many decades Ron Paul has been on the planet no one can ever recall him every saying anything racist. Not one instance. There are no witnesses there is no audio there is no text … nothing!
Item #9
Everyone that’s worked with Ron Paul or knows him on any level says this isn’t Ron Paul that it’s too out of character and not even his style of writing. Consider what the head of an NAACP chapter says about Ron Paul and the charge of racism:
http://www.scotthortonshow.com/2007/08/30/antiwar-radio-nelson-linder/
Consider what one Hispanic former aid says about Ron Paul and racism:
http://uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/61da16bf-7fe9-4c47-a01c-e2cc8ce4a3bd
And all of this is consistent with the accounts of hundreds of Blacks, Latino’s, Asians and many other people that have met, talked, and worked with the man. This is why he has more support from blacks then any other republican candidate.
Item #10
Ron Paul’s policies do not discriminate against anyone in fact he is the only candidate against the war on drugs which disproportional affects blacks.
The following is from the NAACP Austin Chapter President Nelson Linder who has known the Congressmen for over 20 years
“Knowing Ron Paul’s intent, I think he is trying to improve this country but I think also, when you talk about the Constitution and you constantly criticize the federal government versus state I think a lot of folks are going to misconstrue that so I think it’s very easy for folks who want to to take his position out of context and that’s what I’m hearing. I do not think Ron Paul is a racist” Nelson Linder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKXyBgr24c
The Author obviously has 0 clue what they are talking about
12:12 pm
Ron Paul’s son is a lily-white worshipper-of-Aqua-Buddha kidnapper. Plainly and simply. Ron Paul is non compos mentis as is his kid. These poor guys can’t take a decent dump, since they haven’t had working toilets for decades. Do Teabanger Paul backers understand that Libertarianism is basically espousing the Law of the Jungle for human beings. Which was fine for the elite anti-Christian anti-intellectual Ayn Rand until she got lung cancer and had to suckle on the government teat. What an outrageous bunch of phony poseurs. And now some evil collectivists are trying to take away your crappy incandescent light bulbs.
11:36 am
all of you are a bunch of losers at best
12:14 pm
I can understand why you would be offended by that term, but using an arcane term is not racist, it’s a sign of being culturally out of touch. It’s unfair for to call some racist on those grounds. Much of the South still uses that term, but again, being culturally out of touch is not being racist.
The Paul supporter’s point is quite correct, though, as oafish as he/she was in delivering it. Paul predicted the mortgage crisis and gave real solutions to avoid it. Now African Americans, who had a disproportionately large number of low down payment FHA loans are losing their homes. That is to say they are losing their homes if they haven’t already died in overseas wars or inner city turf conflicts brought on by the so called War on Drugs. Ron Paul would end the war on drugs and the militarism abroad that has killed a disproportionately large number of African Americans.
The Civil Rights Act argument is a straw man argument and everyone who brings it up knows this. It’s no more “racist” to think that parts of that act were unconstitutional than it is to be a member of the ACLU defending the KKKs right to publicly protest. Both Paul and the ACLU are supporting the Bill of Rights, no matter how detestable the people are who take advantage of it sometimes.
12:15 pm
By “culturally out of touch” I’m assuming you mean senile old fart.
1:20 am
Tell that to Black society of accountants.
Also, other people – don’t believe this crap – go on youtube and checkout what Ron Paul has said about this issue over and over again, then go and check what black people are saying about him, and if they are considering him racist (in short -no, they don’t, because it would be idiotic).
It’s a bit hard to sell the story on racism about a guy who has been raising the question of highest incarceration of people of color for decades, isn’t it? “white racist trying to get all those blacks out of prison?” Really? :) ah, ok then.
Ron Paul 2012!
12:16 pm
Nope, he simply wants those prisons for black folks privatized.
1:13 am
Even his supporters are racist. I’ve had so many come to my college campus and say stuff like, “Ron Paul has done a lot of things for ‘coloreds’ like you.” when they try to get people to go watch him speak. Okay, so they’re against the Civil Right’s Act which *gasp* gave people protection against discrimination (which is apparently SO horrible), they complain about “reverse racism” (because apparently calling me the n-word and having the power to get away with it is the same as me asking you not to do so…)and now these are people my age calling ME ‘colored’or ‘negro’, and I’m supposed to think there’s nothing wrong with their views?
10:22 am
Define racist Anna. Lets see if you can.
6:50 am
I suppose all of Obama’s supporters are pure as the driven snow? I suppose there isn’t a single *black* supporter of Obama that would ever say something like “Whitey”, or “Cracker”…etc. If you don’t like Ron Paul for his stance on IMPORTANT issues – like a sustainable economy, upholding the constitution, the right to organic, unadulterated food, by no means do you have to support him. But to use his supporters’ supposed racism as a reason for not considering him as a viable candidate to run this country is petty and naive. BTW, I hope term “black” doesn’t offend you because I have no idea how else to identify race here – I would say “African-American” but that would be awfully presumptuous of me to think you came from Africa, just as it is highly presumptuous of people to assume I’m “Mexican-American”. This race card is old. Everyone needs to get over it and move on. There are WAY more important things to worry about.
12:22 pm
Hell, I say Whitey and Cracker and I support President Obama. And I’m white as the driven snow. And I know for sure Ron Paul is non compos mentis. The “race card” was invented by GOPer racists back in the Lee Atwater days to let the goobers slide when they made flat-out racist ads about Willie Horton and Michael Dukakis. And if Ron Paul is some sort of Truthful Paragon, why is the loony a member of the GOP? Lacking the courage of his convictions?
11:35 pm
The drug war is the biggest and most oppressive example of racism that there is and Ron Paul opposes it and Obama supports it including suppression of legal medical marijuana. Blacks and Hispanics greatly outnumber whites in prisons because of the racism and fascism of the law but where is Obama on this. anyone who doesn’t call Obama a racist and fascist is either ignorant or a coward.
11:30 pm
The greatest amount of racism resulting in black and Hispanic oppression is the drug war which Obama supports. All races do and sell drugs equally yet who ends up in prison as one third of all young Black males are in prison, probation or awaiting trial. Obama even sold out the marijuana people, the peace groups and the natural health people all of whom supported him in 2008. Do you have the guts to call Obama and Bush the racists and fascists that they are. I doubt it.
5:07 pm
One day, Ron Paul was driving from Alabama to visit family in Georgia, and needed to stop and pee. He pulled over to a gas station and asked to use the bathroom. The owner says, “No, I choose not to serve whites.”
Paul said, “I’ll give you money. I’ll buy gas!”
The owner says, “No, I choose not to serve whites. And so do all the businesses for miles around.”
Paul doesn’t want to pee his pants, so he finds an ally and tries to do his business. He is promptly arrested for vagrancy and given 30 days in the county workhouse. When he gets out, his car is gone.
All this is because “blacks-only” commercial institutions are backed up by the power of the State that Paul claims to dislike.
All the above reflects the actual experience of Southerners in the 1950s, except of course it was “whites-only” establishments. Paul never would have survived as a black man in the 1950s.
10:24 am
Ohh boo hoo. Like there were not black only establishments. I a so sick of you minority supremacist’s hypocrisy…
4:40 am
“Paul never would have survived as a black man in the 1950s.”
And yet so many ~80 IQ bellcurvians managed. Just goes to show you, as far as evolutionary strategists are concerned – Marvin Gaye is greater than Darwin.
1:16 am
Those institutions are discriminatory. And your example doesn’t work as if a town didn’t do any business with different races the town would be in horrible shape as there is no way to 100% eliminate the need for outside trading.
Also, even in the 50s discrimination was waining. Just like it was around the world.
1:02 pm
Wow, very interesting reading, all of your comments have much validity. That’s right, all of them. There are many things I like about Ron Paul, some things I don’t like. This entire “racist” thing is a can of worms. I refuse to think of myself as a “racist” despite knowing humans ARE hardwired to discriminate “us” versus “them” using visual cues. If I had a favorite restaurant that put up a sign “NO ____ (fill in the blank)” I would tell the owner why I might not patronize his establishment. However, I believe the owner has a right to refuse service to anyone because it is the owner’s property. Perhaps the owner puts up a sign “No GANG MEMBERS” – I would have no problem with that. I would feel safer eating there knowing no shoot-outs were going to occur. As well, if I own an apartment building, I would not want to rent to certain types of people who would bring gang members in to shoot up my property and kill other renters. Nor would I want to rent to someone who would vandalize my property, not pay their rent or harass other tenants. I am in the middle of the road, I see both sides, and realize more than most, having grown up in LA during “affirmative action” and being a white person in my high school’s Black Student Union (I got kicked out because I was white), how subtle discrimination (not to mention blatant discrimination that the LAPD make a habit of) is a terrible thing. Exactly how to deal with it? I have no idea. So I will vote for the person who is most suited for the position of President. Someone with integrity and commitment, intelligence and with foresight. I am against the WARS, against THE FED, CORPORATISM (a corporation is NOT a person and does NOT deserve the same rights) and transnationals in general (Monsanto/BP/Shell/ConAgra). I believe in Food Sovereignty, State-funded unemployment benefits, and food stamps, and believe we must raise taxes to fulfill previous promises of Social Security and Medicare. I am against drilling ANYWHERE by oil companies, fracking by gas companies, and anything that destroys our planet for profit/greed. I hate what the “corporations” and banksters have done to this country, but I also believe that all must learn to be independent of the government. However, it should be illegal to punish people who are struggling to become independent. I do NOT believe Corporations should make trillions on the backs of the poor – they deserve just compensation. The government/corporations/banks have made it impossible for me to grow my own food, own my own house and allocate where my taxes should be spent. Something smells, but I do not believe it is Ron Paul.
1:52 am
” So I will vote for the person who is most suited for the position of President. Someone with integrity and commitment, intelligence and with foresight. I am against the WARS, against THE FED, CORPORATISM (a corporation is NOT a person and does NOT deserve the same rights) and transnationals in general (Monsanto/BP/Shell/ConAgra). I believe in Food Sovereignty, State-funded unemployment benefits, and food stamps, and believe we must raise taxes to fulfill previous promises of Social Security and Medicare. I am against drilling ANYWHERE by oil companies, fracking by gas companies, and anything that destroys our planet for profit/greed. I hate what the “corporations” and banksters have done to this country, but I also believe that all must learn to be independent of the government. However, it should be illegal to punish people who are struggling to become independent. I do NOT believe Corporations should make trillions on the backs of the poor – they deserve just compensation. The government/corporations/banks have made it impossible for me to grow my own food, own my own house and allocate where my taxes should be spent. Something smells, but I do not believe it is Ron Paul.”
Very Nice Statement
12:49 pm
First of all, we have absolute proof that Rosario is a racist and wants black people dead. Since he is pro-war, (going on the attack against the only anti-war candidate), and since a larger percentage of African Americans fight in wars and die in them than exists in the general population, it is proved that Rosario is racist who wants lots of dead black people.
Secondly, and more importantly, I think Rosario is, like, 12 years-old. I’m not sure you guys should be getting worked up over some 12 year-old racist who wants black people dead.
7:56 am
Excellent assessment, Rick Shepherd.
11:45 am
Wow, thanks for opening my eyes! And to think, I almost voted for this guy who actually takes a stand against the Drug War here in the US which gets black people deliberately hooked on government-run drugs and then locks them up for life, in turn ruining their communities! AND this racist monster wants our military to stop bombing poor people around the world. Thanks to this article, I will be supporting OBAMA who always jumps to the plate to support people of color.
2:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk1Vpeuw&feature=share
Ron Paul answers this question.
11:31 am
Total BS. This should shut you up for good:
‘NAACP President: Ron Paul Is NOT A Racist’ The final proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjniahS5Rzc
Oh, and Ron Paul’s mentors were Ludwig Von Mises and Murray Rothbard…and he’s friends with economist Peter Schiff and filmmaker Aaron Russo – all Jews….gee, for someone who’s supposedly “anti-semitic” he sure likes a lot of Jews!
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Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals. Racists believe that all individuals who share superficial physical characteristics are alike: as collectivists, racists think only in terms of groups. By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so-called “diversity” actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist.
The true antidote to racism is liberty. Liberty means having a limited, constitutional government devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than group claims. Liberty means free-market capitalism, which rewards individual achievement and competence, not skin color, gender, or ethnicity.
More importantly, in a free society every citizen gains a sense of himself as an individual, rather than developing a group or victim mentality. This leads to a sense of individual responsibility and personal pride, making skin color irrelevant. Rather than looking to government to correct our sins, we should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.
-Ron Paul
10:43 am
justin, very nicely done! there is something going on on facebook re ron paul the last few days. his supporters are all over the place and haranguing people to waste their votes on him. if you try to prove with documentation of his record and his own direct quotes that he is racist and anti-semitic they go ballistic on you, or quickly disappear. it’s nuts, and it’s even more nuts how much of it comes from leftists who should know better.
ty for getting some good info out there, also for suffering the many racist trolls who felt compelled to read and comment on it.
2:29 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk1Vpeuw&feature=share
Ron Paul answers this question in 2008 get over it!
9:31 am
the reverse discrimination and government intrusion engendered by the 1964 civil rights act have been a plague upon America abhorrent to all sane responsible people and relished only by communists – regardless of the labels they hide behind. if you really want to prove that you have the cojones to “out” vicious hard-core race-based hatred and criminality – Justin – why don’t you put together a hard-hitting expose on the talmud and the 60-odd million innocent human beings who perished under talmudic soviet communism ? fat chance.
charles ranalli
albuquerque
7:31 am
This is as bad as the Rev. Write nonsense. “I wonder how he would handle actual legislation?” Go look up legislation he authored that passed. Don’t just read one article blasting him for racism, go read up on his history, education levels, time in government, and legislation he authored. You may not like everything, but name me a candidate that was absolutely perfect? This guy is MILES better than Palin, Bachmann, and Perry. This ‘Ron Paul is a racist’ thing is decades old for crying out loud, where have you people been? It’s funny how it only gets brought up when he runs for president, if your were THAT outraged, where were you in 1995? This is mud-slinging at its finest.
8:33 am
The fact he’s “better than palin, perry or bachman’ says NOTHING. A dunce is better than any of the them. how our standards go down!
8:34 am
The fact he’s “miles etter than palin, perry or bachman’ says NOTHING. A dunce would be far better than any of them. how our standards go down!
2:44 am
While I disagree with Ron Paul on any number of issues, I think calling him a white supremacist is specious at best and idiotic at worst.
The basis of the argument is that Paul asserts that if you own a private establishment, you should be able to determine the policies of the establishment the same way you may determine who enters your home. You certainly aren’t required to permit entry of anyone you don’t like. You can throw a party and not invite blacks or whites or blond Asians or whatever. Paul would also assert the right of a business to open and not serve whites if that was the will of the owner, so you can’t call him racist for this.
But you can call him wrong, and I do. When one opens a business, it isn’t the same as a private home. One is engaging in the social contract and asking for patronage. At this point, denying service based on skin color is illegal, immoral, and should not be tolerated. Period.
Libertarians get confused on issues like this. I’m more than happy to clarify the logical position for them. :)
1:11 pm
The key here is that the CRA does not infringe on the rights of private establishment to refuse service to anyone. Nightclubs, or anything that requires membership are not subject to this rule. The relevant definition is “places of public accommodation”. The REASON places of public accommodation are different by definition in this regard is because materials for sale or use in these locations are acquired across state lines, and employees working in these locations are subject to federal income tax, and the biggest reason: There has been no attempt to limit the membership to a private nature. Put the last one together with one of the first two, and it means they are subject to federal jurisdiction under both the Interstate Commerce Clause as well as the 16th amendment, and therefore cannot be discriminatory. Paul is wrong, and everyone who voted for the CRA can tell him why.
7:42 pm
I’m libertarian and I agree with you. I think he is misapplying the prinicple.
1:13 pm
I understand where Ron Paul is coming from. I was raised in a different environment from the south and wouldn’t patronize any establishment that discriminated on the basis of skin color or ‘race’ (as if we’re any race other than human). A private establishment should be able to do as it will as they’re not hurting anyone by denying them service and ultimately it would open the doors to other businesses that are more open minded. Let the market decide who’s right. Ultimately business owners can reserve the right to reserve service to anyone so why is the act necessary other than to prevent the “no blacks/whites/browns” signs? Ron Paul is absolutely not racist. He’s a libertarian who advocates treating everyone as individuals.
12:01 am
The whole newsletter doesn’t fit with any of his public comments. If the newsletter ‘ghost writer’ story is true, I wish he would just throw the guy the under the bus because obviously, the statements in the newsletter are blatantly racist.
As far as the civil rights comments by Rand Paul, I think its polyannish to think that things would have changed in the south without government force. This was a case, Jim Crow laws, where government force had been used for years, post Plessey versus Ferguson, to enforce and establish racism in the South, which had further socialized the people to accept that blacks were inherently inferior. This, I think is a case where governement interference into the private realm, is definitely acceptable.
His point is that law should based on principle so how can you tell a private entity on one hand that they, a private institution, can obviate one right, allowing you to carry in a weapon that is elsewise legal but on the other hand, they cannot serve who they please. I would argue that business are in a sense ‘public’ and the refusal to serve someone based an arbitrary rules, not safety, is an act of force and intimidation.
You can refuse to allow who you want into your home on an individual basis but when you start interacting with the public, it seems obvious that making rules like, don’t drink at water fountain x, is an act of force, is humiliating and since it is my belief that almost every rule breaks down in the extremes, that exceptions can be made for the sake of humanity.
However, there is a point to made that we have gone down the slippery slope and now the government is telling businesses not to sell happy meals and what not. So there needs to be a defined prinicple as to where the government can use force and where it cannot and that line is nowhere to be found.
As far as his anti-abortion stance. Come on. He is an OB-GYN. How many people that have delivered that many babies are going to be pro-choice. I don’t know where on the spectrum he lies as far as if he bnelieves there are exceptions but on the other end of the spectrum, believing that a baby with its head sticking out of the uterus is not alive, is also equally ludicrous. Partial birth abortions and removing a mole off your back are not equal and if you believe that, well, you are living in la-la land too.
8:43 pm
Ron Paul emerged out of the Milesian Libertarian tradition which is named after a Libertarian from (Alabama or Missisipi, I can’t recall) which argued against federal intrusion into “state’s rights”, rights of individuals and communities to continue segregation. Not that he is also anti-abortion and anti-reproductive choice and feels the government has the right to intervene directly in the relationship between a woman and her doctor. Ron Paul opposes all environmental regulation, supports corporate personhood, wants to eliminate social security, medicare, medicaid, TANF(Temporary Aid to Needy Families), public housing, public transportation, public education, pell grants, student loans, and all other social safety net programs. He also opposes progressive taxation(asking the rich to pay their share) and safety regulations to protect public health(i.e. food inspection, etc.) In addition to opposing civil rights laws, hate crime laws, etc. Most absurd here are responses claiming he opposes wall street “fat cats”. True, even wealthy people are sometimes protected by consumer protection laws and often benefit from “corporate welfare” which he opposes but he they LOVE Ron Paul to the extent that he is for eliminating almost every law which requires them to pay taxes, or that prevents them from doing whatever they want social, ecological and human costs be damned.
1:15 pm
His stance on abortion doesn’t interfere with a doctor patient relationship. It has to do with the rights of the unborn person.
8:23 pm
You’ve cloaked your lust for militarism, bailouts of fat cat Wall Streeters and the insane drug war in some phony race-baiting screed. Well done. Talk about a credibility gap. lol.
7:38 pm
Africa for Africans. Asia for Asians. White nations for everyone.
It is said that there is this RACE problem. They say this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
2:53 pm
I pity you. You must lead such a sad, angry life.
7:25 pm
In your opinion Ron Paul is a racist. You are saying that becasue he is white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
2:36 pm
no, its a code for being against ridiculing or dehuminizing someone on the basis of skin color alone stupid. Im anti -stupidity, does that mean I’m anti-republican? no, it just means I hate it when people(even ME!) are or act stupid. what a stupid argument
7:10 pm
“White Supremacist”?
Who coined that term?
I don’t know a single racially conscious white person who calls themselves that.
As for Ron Paul being racist, of course he is.
So are his accusers.
So is everybody else.
Racism is hard wired into all human beings.
The difference is that some have the guts to admit that they prefer their own kind.
Others lie and pretend that they don’t have any ability to be racist.
I prefer the former to the later, because they are honest.
1:20 pm
I prefer mixed race, they’re always the best looking.
5:14 pm
The woman in the burka was outed as being an American and not muslim. She was a shill and a propagandist; much like you.
6:48 pm
Sooooo…not disputing a single word i wrote? Go ahead. Tell me ONE thing that is not true. Just one.
7:11 am
Ok, how about the whole thing? The racism thing is 20 years old at least, from a newsletter that he published but didn’t write for. After the racist comments in the newsletter came out and caused a stir, he announced that while he didn’t write it, he was responsible because it was his newsletter and he stopped printing it (thereby firing the writers). He does NOT support personhood for corporations, and he has no alliance with ‘neo-confederates’. In fact, your whole damn article is full of loaded language and insinuations, and quite frankly is garabage as far as journalism goes. You bill opinions as ‘known but little reported facts’. You have very few actual facts in here; all this article is made up of is opinions and BS. Go write an opinion, err, I’m sorry, ‘article’, on someone worth bashing, like Bachmann or Perry.
4:34 pm
Are you suggesting that Ron Paul is a racist against wall street and their race of fat cats. I’ve been told that the racist label was reserved for the GOP and the wealthy folks who are on the taxpayer dole? How come nobody called George Bush a racist? No time to play the race card now. Ron Paul is no worst that the lot of them and quite frankly has some stellar points in his favor.
6:46 pm
Nobody called Bush a racist? Are you kidding me?! Where have you been for the last decade?
4:00 pm
It is extremely important when discussing issues of race in this society that we differentiate between individual racism and institutional racism. Ron Paul may not have a racist bone in his body (and may in fact support many things that would benefit all races equally such as an end to the war on drugs and our foreign entanglements), but the fact is that his economic policies — and those of all who follow the libertarian, Ayn Randist, I-got-mine-you-go-get-yours creed of the radical right — end up causing harm to existing impoverished classes in our society, which as a result of past policies are inordinately composed of blacks and other minorities. This is a fact, and all this talk about whether or not he knew what junk was being published in his newsletter just obscures the details of that important discussion. I don’t care if he uses the “N” word in every other sentence and enjoys watching Al Jolson movies; as long as he refuses to support things like the Voting Rights Act, then he is responsible for the continuation of institutional racism. That makes him, and every other right-wing politician, black or white, a racist by definition. Not the kind that hates people of other races, but the kind that stands in the way of progress for people of other races.
1:27 pm
You’re wrong. The only institutional racism the government should worry about is within the government. It is not illegal for one man to hate another for whatever reason, however wrong and unintelligent it is. I’ve never read he didn’t support the voting rights act, where is your reference for that? Voting rights would be an appropriate place for government to intervene not in the rights of a private sole proprietor. Again it was kind of pointless as business owners can reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.
3:36 pm
““Eh, nobody would ban Negroes from their establishment if they were allowed to. People just aren’t like that anymore.”?”
Definitely the words of a ‘white supremacist’.
6:49 pm
He didn’t actually say that. That was a summary of his position on discrimination being “ancient history.”
3:30 pm
The graphic at the top with Paul wearing a confederate hat and the “text” attributed to him is really very classy. I can tell Justin doesn’t have an ax to grind or anything. First of all Justin, how is this so different than the Rev. Wright debacle with Obama? I am a supporter of Pauls, but I also personally like Obama. I disagree with his policies, but in no way thing Obama is/was a racist. He went to a church however, with a preacher who talked alot of racist crap, and eventually he had to cut the Rev. and the church loose. Is that really so different that what happened with Pauls newsletter back in the early 90s? I do in fact believe that he did not fact read this newsletter, and he has said as much. You need something better than racist comments in a newsletter that he did not write, to call someone a racist. Paul himself has made no racist comments. Justin, apparently you think that offending people is more serious than blowing them to pieces. All I know is that Paul is an anti-war candidate who if he had been President in 2008, there would have been a great many more people (both Americans and Iraqi/Afghanis) alive in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Justins motto apparently is : “I hate racism, but I’m actually kind of OK with blowing up people in foreign lands. People who don’t look like me…hold on…am I a racist??!”. You’re a real deep thinker aren’t you Justin.
6:58 pm
Darren, seriously, you don’t think that, over the course of several YEARS, that at least ONE person would have said, “Hey, Ron. I was reading your newsletter yesterday and that is some messed up stuff you said about black people being animals.”?
Not ONCE?
Bullshit. He knew exactly what was going into that newsletter and he didn’t give a damn or he wrote some of it himself (they never list authors).
1:31 pm
It’s pretty sad that you can’t take Ron Paul at his word that he knew nothing about it and didn’t author it himself. The guy is the epitome of the honest politician who always does what he says he’s going to do. He has more in common than any other Republican to liberals in so many areas. You’re rehashing the same old tired nonsense that hasn’t left a scratch on Ron Paul since it was first mentioned. You know why? Because he’s a man of his word and he said he didn’t author the articles in question and shut down the newsletter when he realized it. Cheap smear now as it was then. Try again.
6:25 am
I agree with you, but your tone & presentation were very juvenile.
3:28 pm
I don’t care whether he is personally a racist or not, his views appeal to racists, and there’s a reason for that. His hostility to the Civil Rights Act simply shows he’s full of shit: what harm has it done? Hmmm? It’s essentially universally recognized as being a great piece of legislation, except by ideological nut-job rightists like Paul, whose ideas always neatly jibe with those of every Nazis and Klansman, always in the name of freedom. What you guys who defend Paul can’t seem to figure out is that making it illegal for privately owned businesses to discriminate has never caused any harm to anyone, but allowing that brand of discrimination makes for a truly loathsome society. So why be hostile to it? Hmmm? Well, it’s because defending the “rights” of someone who believes that 8% of the US population aren’t human beings, is more important than preventing a black child from growing up in a climate of constant humiliation. Why? “Cause racism taint the problem, it’s big guberment”. Thank goober. What a pack of idiots.
3:13 pm
yeah…he’s not a racist at all….guess that’s why white supremacist web sites like Stormfront are plastered with pro Ron Paul ads….
8:24 am
+1
10:15 am
The fact that Stormfront supports Paul does not automatically make Paul a terrible person. After all, Communists frequently voted for Democrats rather than Republicans, but that doesn’t make the Democrats Communists.
I would also point out that many Stormfronters opposed the Iraq war. Should be assume that Stormfront opposition means that the Iraq war is a moral endeavor that we should all support?
7:45 pm
Yes, I don’t agree with the Nazis on anything but we both like the autobahn so I must be a Nazi.
3:02 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/05/roseanne-barr-im-running-for-president_n_919171.html
we do have options : )
2:43 pm
Wow! Of all the bullshit that’s on this site, this has to be Grade-A!
You mean to tell me that because a politician receives funding and support from white supremacists, that politician is ipso facto white supremacist? By that very logic, Barack Obama is a communist because he has received support and funding from Communist. (And let’s not forget how he tended to lean towards the most Marxist professors in college.)
Here are the facts: Ron Paul is one of the only candidates who receive campaign donations from individual citizens rather than corporations and special interest groups. He is a true grassroots populist president, and not another corporate puppet, unlike Obama!
4:08 pm
Guess you didn’t read the whole article….did you stop reading as soon as you encountered information that didn’t affirm what you already “know” about Ron Paul.
As somebody who has been interested in Ron Paul as a candidate, I found this article to be highly informative, and will be doing further research to verify the presence of ties to white supremacy organizations / or racially provocative publications he may be responsible for. Thanks to the author of this piece for offering this information for thoughtful consideration.
4:31 pm
The only crap coming out on here is from your mouth. “Obama got money from communist” What a dunbass. FYI Ron Paul is a turd who stands like all libertarians, they would rather compensate than regulate. Its like calling the fire department after the house has burnt down. You wouldn’t know a fact if it hit you in the face. If you want to see who sold us out to the Communist, it was Prescott bush jr.http://www.usccc.org/newhome/overview10.asp
2:34 pm
I have one question for those who do not think Ron Paul is a racist. I assume those who believe this are white. If your favorite restaurant was allowed, as Dr. Paul would like, to refuse service to whomever they wanted, and they put a ‘No Whites Allowed’ sign on their door, what would you feel and think?
2:44 pm
I would feel/think that the owners of that restaurant were idiots and would laugh next week when they went out of business…
If that restaurant were getting ANY funding from my tax dollars, there would be a HUGE problem…but if they were a private business, I would just think them idiots and eat at that location in a few days when new ownership took over.
3:47 pm
Ron Paul and Rand think it would be OK if a restaurant owner could refuse service to any one they want.
If the owner did not want to serve whites, why would they be an idiot?
Would they be any less of an idiot if they had a sign saying ‘Whites Only’?
The ‘right of refusal’ would apply to private enterprises only so the tax reference is moot.
Why would you think they would go out of business?
3:56 pm
The bigoted restaurant owner would be an idiot in my opinion because of judging/discriminating against people by arbitrary/meaningless factors.
They would most likely go out of business in the real world because MOST people would be disgusted by such behavior and would not patronize (not to mention tell all of their friends/family to not patronize).
Have you not seen how quickly offensive celebrities, etc get dropped by sponsors when the consumers express their indignation with said celebrities?
The Pauls think that people have the right to freely associate with whomever they wish; quite a lot of sane, non-bigoted people feel the same way. This does NOT mean that we are racist, it just means that we do NOT want to infringe upon other private citizens, even if they are bigots.
If a publicly-funded institution acts in a bigoted manner, that is a TOTALLY different situation.
Do you understand the nuance now?
4:08 pm
I understand the nuance. Do you understand how subtle discrimination in housing, education, employment, etc. can be and has been? Probably not, because you live in an ivory-tower libertarian world where people act in logical ways. Like an Ayn Rand novel. I know all about it, because I once lived in that world… when I was 17! Grow up.
4:19 pm
You give no evidence Writer89 of your claim of “subtle discrimination”…
…so your bashing is irrelevant and name calling is void.
But, hey, maybe it is so subtle, you can not even come up with an example!!!
LOL
8:27 am
Visit eeoc.gov…there, you will find examples aplenty. Glad to help.
10:18 am
@Writer89 – I’m not sure who you’re talking to, but since you replied to my post I have to assume you are speaking to me.
I do NOT ‘live in an ivory-tower libertarian world’ and am NOT a fan of Ayn Rand (who, by the way HATED libertarians, you should do some research before making Ayn Rand/libertarian connections). I live in the real world, work for a living, pay my bills and am working diligently towards justice in the world (which includes NOT murdering foreigners for corporate interests and imprisoning thousands for lifestyle choices).
So, what does your point about subtle discrimination in housing, etc etc have to do with anything?
Quite a lot of people believe that individuals have the right to make choices about who they associate with (as repugnant as some of those choices may be). You may not agree with this belief but that does NOT make those people bigots…
4:20 pm
“They would most likely go out of business in the real world because MOST people would be disgusted by such behavior and would not patronize (not to mention tell all of their friends/family to not patronize).”
You just don’t get it do you..> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389319/No-speak-English-No-service-sign-leads-Reedy-Creek-Diner-restaurants-sales-TRIPLING.html
10:31 am
Jean Netherton; putting a sign up that requires a person to speak a certain language may be repugnant but it is NOT ‘racism’ or discrimination based on an arbitrary factor…however, I tend to agree that it is pretty repulsive.
I DO get it but I think we disagree on what rights private individuals have…I personally think that private individuals have the right to associate with anyone they want, even if they are bigots – you seem to think that the government has the right to force everyone to associate with everyone else. I can appreciate the nobility behind that view (personally I don’t see people as ‘races’ since we’re all the same race but I don’t expect everyone else to feel the same way) but I don’t feel that the government has the right to infringe on people’s liberty in this manner…this hardly makes me ‘racist’ but is more a testament to my view of personal liberty vs. tyranny…
5:42 pm
Say you’re a middle-aged, middle-class African American traveling with an octogenarian aunt on a interstate bus that stops at a tiny bus station in a small town in the deep south. You have to transfer to another bus that will not arrive for another hour and a half. The station is closed and there is no refreshment machine or rest room outside. The area is in the middle of a heat wave. It’s 108 degrees outside.
Across the street there is a diner advertising ice cold drinks and air conditioning and is sure to have a rest room. You eagerly cross the street, nearly dragging your elderly aunt, who uses a walker. When the two of you reach the front door you are greeted by a sign that reads “Whites Only – Violators Will Be Prosecuted.”
You look around and see that there is only one other business open in town, a bar that happens to display a similar sign. Clearly this philosophy is popular locally and is not hurting business, as both places are full. You and your thirsty, overheated, incontinent aunt look for a lawn sprinkler, some shade, and some bushes.
According to the Paul’s, there is no need for a law to prevent this scenario. In fact, they believe the owners of these establishments are well within their rights to refuse the possibly life-saving comforts of public accommodation to you and your Senior Citizen of the United States of America Auntie, who also happens to be a veteran of the US Navy and served 2 tours of duty in Korea and 2 in Vietnam.
The question is: Should this be allowed under the law?
4:08 pm
The important underlying argument is that this is a property rights issue. Forcing a business owner to cater to people he may not want to is a violation of property ownership. Private property ownership is one of the cornerstones of living in a free society.
Please view this question with my disclaimer: I agree that, in a society that wants to punish people who discriminate against others, the most effective way of doing this is to do so with one’s personal purchasing power. If a white supremacist such an establishment, he has made a very poor business decision and must work that much harder to stay in business. This is a simply economic argument that is logical enough when approached honestly. Hate crimes are not okay, but it should not be a crime to hate.
This is exactly why you don’t see signs that say “We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone,” anymore. Which is a valuable tool for businesses to defend their reputation and allows them a legitimate tool in defending there property.
1:34 pm
Exactly. I’d like to think that as a society we can evolve intelligently without the heavy hand of the government involved. Ultimately their only power comes at the end of a gun.
2:09 pm
Mr J – so if I point out (from a report generated by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT) certain commentary and ‘findings’ that seem pretty racist, are you going to call ME racist?
4:11 pm
Except, that’s not really what he did. He went so far as to state that blacks are “criminally minded”. He made an actual statement.
10:39 am
Mr J – he actually DID quote a report from the federal report in one of the newsletters (though I doubt that ‘he’ actually had ANYTHING to do with the newsletters during that timeframe since the idiot that published the offensive crap was fired after it happened)
1:35 pm
Reference? Where’s the article? Sure like to see it. Oh yeah I can’t because it doesn’t exist.
1:32 pm
so let’s see…some idiot that worked for the Ron Paul newsletter in the 80′s (while Dr. Paul was out of Congress and practicing medicine) published some repugnant crap in the newsletter (admittedly a low-budget publication). Dr. Paul fires the guy and distances himself from the crap that said idiot wrote & published…tell me again just HOW this makes Ron Paul racist????
He’s one of the ONLY candidates who is speaking up for minorities; have you ever looked at the demographic that is affected the worst by the so-called ‘war on drugs’???
What color are those people who are being thrown in jail daily for lifestyle choices? Which candidates are speaking loudly about ending this facade (ie: ‘war’ on drugs) immediately so that thousands of poor & oppressed people can NOT be imprisoned for a lifestyle choice?
Please – you’re going to have to come up with REAL, ACTUAL links that show that Dr. Paul has said/written/endorsed ANYTHING even remotely racist, NOT just the same old, tired BS that has been dismissed YEARS ago.
It’s fine if you don’t agree with his positions; no problems there but PLEASE don’t spread lies…
1:59 pm
So you’re buying his excuse? “Oh my, I had NO IDEA someone was publishing racist screeds for YEARS (YEARS!!!!) under my name! I NEVER EVER read my own newsletter and not ONE SINGLE person I know read it either. And while EVERY ONE I know was avoiding MY newsletter, including, somehow, my ENTIRE family, not ONE SINGLE person ever mentioned those terribly racist articles to me.”
Really, Joel? REALLY? You don’t find that to be even the tiniest bit improbable?
I’m sorry you don’t want to believe it, but that doesn’t make it any less true.
2:07 pm
Justin – I’m not ‘buying’ anything (that’s an interesting choice of words, considering the approach that you take with political mud-slinging but whatever…) – I can appreciate that a guy who got OUT OF GOVERNMENT and was running a busy OB/GYN practice would trust someone else to publish a newsletter that had his name at the top of it (I don’t recall that there were ‘YEARS and YEARS worth of racist BS being published; I’ve seen a handful of articles that had comments bordering from awkward to nasty) could easily think that the person you trusted to represent you was actually doing that.
I think we’ve all been screwed by someone we trusted…most of us cut that person loose when we find out their true nature – which is exactly what RP did.
I’m not saying that I worship the guy or even agree with all of his positions. However, I’ve met the guy a few times, heard him speak/read his works MANY times and have never seen/heard/read ANYTHING even remotely racist from him.
I get it; you don’t like his policies…if you were honorable you’d explain WHY you don’t like his policies and people could have respectful, civil discussion about them.
3:54 pm
I have to say it! Please take your head out of the sand! As a graphic artist who has done innumerable newsletters I can tell you that anyone worth their salt never lets their newsletter go out without first looking it over COMPLETELY! If he is too busy to check a newsletter that represents his views, and therefore his image to the world, than what else would he overlook.
“Oh, I didn’t see that line in the in the treaty that said we give up all our property to China!” Gees, get with the program.
3:57 pm
I know the question was for Justin, but if I may. If we repealed the Civil Rights laws…a restaurant you enjoyed could refuse to serve you because you are white just as easily as the other way around. I job opens up that is perfect for you, except the owner is racist and doesn’t want white people working for them…this is what people of color were, and in some cases still are, facing. No, I do not like his policies.
And lets not get started on his policies regarding women, and the hypocrisy of wanting small government, except where women’s reproductive rights are concerned. We’ll leave that for another discussion.
6:09 pm
Thank you for bringing up his policies regarding women. As a woman, I KNOW that he would be the OB/GYN from hell. Yeah, he is all for freedom, except where women are concerned.
6:34 pm
I must say thank you also for bringing up his views on women’s rights too. I am getting sick and tired of people like Ron Paul trying to take women’s rights away. As an OB/GYN you would think he would be more sensitive to women’s health. He reminds me of the old time doctor who told women “Don’t you worry about that little lump in your breast. We’ll take care of that for you.”
5:04 pm
Maybe if you read his position on abortion you would not be so apt to dismiss him. He believes that abortion is an issue that should be relegated to the states not mandated by the federal government, which does not take women’s rights away. If you want an abortion go to a state that it’s legal in… Do some research before you make these unsubstantiated comments.
7:13 pm
So my article references three years worth of racism and article I got THAT from references far more. How many years of Paul racism will it take before you can no longer pretend it was a just one person and Paul couldn’t POSSIBLY have known about it? Let me guess. One more then I can provide?
“Well, you can show there was 10 years of racism but unless there’s ELEVEN years, I just can’t believe it!”
Self-deception is a terrible thing.
7:19 pm
“I get it; you don’t like his policies…if you were honorable you’d explain WHY you don’t like his policies and people could have respectful, civil discussion about them.”
Ah. So as long as you like his policies, his hardcore racism is acceptable? Yes, let’s have a respectful, civil conversation about why you don’t have a problem with this. Please, enlighten me. Why is racism acceptable to you? Don’t bother claiming that it’s not, you’ve already suggested that that Paul’s racism is fine with you by choosing to overlook it in favor of discussing his policies.
Do the honorable thing and admit you’re willing to look past his racism simply because you like his message.
2:53 pm
Thumbs up! My thoughts exactly!
I guess they think we are dipshits who are stupid enough to believe that crap.
Not having it,
He is a racist and has no business in our government even.
1:37 pm
Proof? Published for years? If it was published for years where’s the proof that racist views were published the entire time. Some facts please. If you’re going to publish drivel you’d better have facts to back it up. It’s a big internet, you should include some links if they exist.
3:53 pm
ITs his name on the header;I’m sorry but if he cant at least proofread his OWN damn newsletter, what is he doing now? voting for laws without reading them? maybe(god forbid he is actually elected) pass laws without knowing WTH they are about? sorry stupid is stupid and if your not going to bother to proofread something sent out in your name you deserve the backlash you get for publishing stupidly
4:12 pm
Except when it first came out in 1996, he never said that it was “some other guy”, he simply stated that he was quoted out of context and that’s not really what he meant. He didn’t deny writing it until 5 years later when he was running for President. It’s obviously BS, or he would’ve denied it to begin with.
5:35 pm
If he doesn’t have a CLUE what went on in his own company how the hell is going to run an entire country?
1:39 pm
It was a newsletter someone else started. Kind of like people starting facebook pages for other people now. They don’t notice until some jackass puts words in their mouth and they have to deal with the repercussions.
1:17 pm
In 2001, as Paul moved to the mainstream and rejoined the Republican party, he disavowed these comments and blamed them on an unnamed ghostwriter. But when Paul ran for Congress in 1996, as a Libertarian, his opponent brought these up to show that Paul had fringe ideas. At that time, Paul told the Houston Chronicle that he opposed racism and his commentaries about blacks came in the context of “current events and statistical reports of the time.”
http://www.realchange.org/ronpaul.htm
1:16 pm
I think it is worth noting that while he denied knowing about those things in the end, he initially supported those ideas when first called on them back in the 90s. He didn’t bother denying any of it until he was running for President.
8:44 am
Have you ever been associated with a group of people that you don’t agree with? If so, would you publicly tell everyone for the remainder of your life that you aren’t associated with them?
No, you would probably wait until someone asked you about it.
Obviously Ron Paul is not racist, this post is ridiculous and I honestly can’t believe I’m even responding.